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Maj. Gen. Stern: Haredim should serve
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 21.11.07, 18:15
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31. Stern should give a talk at Tel-Aviv University
rivka ,   Israel   (11.22.07)
Always pointing an accusing finger at the religious is not fair. There are another 11% of non-religious that declare themselves "not compatible" for army service so let Stern first start there .
32. Ynet,now you´ll like...
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (11.22.07)
j*su*s#30,and rami #23. The two making prejudicious comments about Jews is just a joke! What a joke! #30 in Israel,riding his white horse ,preaching against anything reminding Sanedrin. #23 the arab in Israel,profiting it and spiting on Jews. What a madness Israel has let inside itself!What a madness!
33. #10: I do not know what you mean by parties. Please be
Rivkah   (11.22.07)
more specific. I live in California and my airfare and hotel bill would have to be paid for. I do not have sex with anyone, if that is the kind of parties you are referring to. But I would be glad to talk to people in a group setting as long as it is safe for me to be there. I do not trust parties like the US Navy forces people to go to. They force people to drink alcohol and be insulted. In 1980, my husband and I went to a US Navy picnic I guess you could call a party. A senior officer got drunk and kept doing a devil dance in front of me and a seven year old foster child I had with me. He would say in front of us, "I just have to have you." We would walk away and he would follow us. My husband could do nothing because he was junior to the man and the people senior to him did nothing to stop the attacks. So I stopped going to parties. I would need some assurance that I would not be the night's dessert for a bunch of drunks and that I would be treated respectfully.
34. #10: A Jew who is a Jew in his/her heart is a king, a
Rivkah   (11.22.07)
priest, and a saint. Duvdevan means cherry in Hebrew. Heaven signifies pleasure or happiness. Is this a virgin who is a Jew in his heart who wants to marry? That is the only kind of party I would be interested in. The fewer guests, the better...a rabbi, a groom, a bride, and a witness or two. A HOLY PARTY.
35. DAMN RIGHT THEY SHOULD SERVE!!!!!
Talula ,   Israel   (11.22.07)
They should not even be given an option. 18 -> army. Simple as that. Feh! They make me sick.
36. Abolish the Tal law now
Simon ,   TA Israel   (11.22.07)
Time to abolish the TAL Law , which the Ultra Orthadox use as a tool to exempt them from going to the army to protect the state. They have no problem taking every sheckel from secular tax payers money and enjoying the protection provided to them. Enough is enough using religion as a political tool and a ways of living off other people. Draft them now!
37. all my nephews
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (11.22.07)
I have several nephews who are young men and served in the army. I have one nephew who is haredi and didn't. He's a wonderful young man, but I don't think he's better than the others.
38. make the army hardeidi friendly first!
b ,   jerusalem   (11.22.07)
how can you expect haredim to serve in units with mixed men and women together, this is why there are rapes and sexual harassment. is there time for prayers? is all the food kosher? do they work on shabbat? will they be forced to evict their own citizens? make the army religious-friendly first. but they never have on purpose.
39. #12 spewing out his daily dose of garbage
Israel   (11.22.07)
40. 10: I prefer to go to holy parties because of all the abuse
Rivkah   (11.22.07)
I have suffered at US Navy parties my husband was required to attend. I saw an Admiral's aide putting his hand in the pants of a Captain's wife he was dancing with, two enlisteds from then NAS Miramar Clinic near San Diego fornicating on a pile of coats on a bed where the coats were put. I had to pull my coat out from under them to leave since they were not even embarrassed enough to get up. I finally told my husband he could go to Navy parties ALONE since he was required to go. So for many years, he went alone. That affected his being promoted since terrorizing wives and children is so important in the US Navy. Now, with all the mercenary troops on US military bases, it is WORSE. The have diplomatic immunity from prosecution for raping women on military bases and in the community. For the foreign troops to get prosecuted, they have to be charged in their country of origin. At little Naval Air Station Lemoore in California, there are THREE FULL TIME RAPE CRISIS COUNSELLORS for all the wives and children and military and civilian women workers who are raped. IN AMERICA! A US Senator told Colonel Elmer Jim Ammerman of Dallas, Texas, that there are FIVE MILLION foreign troops in America. Watch his video from the Prophecy Club of Topeka, Kansas, called "The Imminent Military Takeover of America" to get a clue. It will get worse. In Nan King, China, only women hiding in holes in the back yard covered with newspapers were not raped when the Japanese attacked. Get ready for attacks in America from people in uniforms who look like Americans but are NOT. Shooting one of them is a capital offense, punishable by DEATH. So shoot as many as you can since you will die anyway when they attack.
41. 40 cont'd: What are "holy" parties? Weddings, bar mitzvahs,
Rivkah   (11.23.07)
bat mitzvahs, brits, anniversaries, baptisms, funerals, birthdays are some.
42. homesh on Shabbat
chava ,   yerushalayim   (11.25.07)
I just read that people were evicted from Homesh again --- on Shabbat! Why davka on Shabbat? Did they want to hurt the activists who were probably mostly shomer shabbat? Or were they out to show those doing the evicting that Shabbat means nothing and the commander is "higher" than that? This was not a life-or-death situation like in war where no one questions breaking Shabbat.
43. hareidim do serve
chava ,   yerushalayim   (11.25.07)
Hareidim serve. Some in tsahal. Some otherwise. Do you know the story of the man who was supporting his daughter and son-in-law. The son-in-law was learning full time. After a few years, the man was asked how much longer he intended to support them. The man answered, "Who knows who is supporting whom?" Eventually, the son-in-law insisted on supporting himself, and the man stoppoed his financial support. He died immediately after he stopped. Just who was supporting whom??
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