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Avoid Munich mistake
Uzi Landau
Published: 27.11.07, 15:32
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31. #12 we seek a real peace. not empty words and terror
Aaron ,   Ra'anana   (11.28.07)
32. #27
Richard ,   London UK   (11.28.07)
Dear oh dear. methinks you are obsessed with me! Take a chill pill. Calling me an anti-semite (amongst other things) because you don't agree with my opinion means that your argument and debating skills are weak. It's also so predictable.
33. Landau should not worry
John Hyams ,   Tel Aviv   (11.28.07)
Because this whole Annapolis thing is not going to work anyway, we'll never reach the stage he worries about. I summarized it in my blog at www.nomorewar.net
34. Let the Iranians pay the price...
Lior ,   London   (11.28.07)
The Israelis warned Bush not to go into Iraq, knowing that it was Iran that was and is the more dangerous enemy. Having unleashed the Shia whirlwind on the world, Bush and the incomparably stupid Condoleezza Rice are now asking that Israel pay the price for their ineptitude and sacrifice her historic capital, her territorial integrity, her security and her future as the Jewish State simply to appease Sunni opinion and win America allies in the region. So much for the anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic claim that Israel is the tail that wags the American dog. Who needs friends when you have enemies like this? Annapolis represents nothing more than an opportunity for 50 of the world's countries to gang rape a small, far away country of which they know nothing - but are always happy to have an ignorant opinion. This isn't Munich. This is Waddensee. The final solution for Zionism.
35. #1 - These so-called 'liberals' are the new fascists!!
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (11.28.07)
Beware of fascists in 'liberal' clothing!!
36. Landau for Prime Minister!!!!!!!
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (11.28.07)
37. #34
Richard ,   London UK   (11.28.07)
The conference you refer to was the 'Wansee' conference not the Waddensee conference. Criticising Israel has nothing to do with anti-semitism. Just as if you were to citicise Blair and British foreign policy it would be ridiculous to call you anti-christian. Annapolis is not designed to 'rape' Israel, that is an overemotive analysis. The US and Europe have provided billions in aid and arms over the years. This means that the US and the EU are investing in Israel's future. It seems that the US is now prepared to invest in the future of the Palestinians and to recognise their needs along whith those of Israel's. There are claims that the real intention of Annapolis is to formalise a response to Iran's posturing. This too is in the interests of israel.
38. The answer to my question is NO to peace!
Miguel Rodriguez ,   Isabela, Puerto Rico   (11.28.07)
By all the "talk back" I have to conclude that israeli don t want security, estability and peace for all! I just recive the same excuse for the continuation of the wa for ever! But is your country and your people I must respect that!
39. Munich???
Radka ,   Athens   (11.28.07)
Last I checked, in 1938 the Germans wanted a strip od land, Sudetenland, the population of which was almost 100% German and which had been taken from Germany after WWI and given to the newly-formed Czechoslovakia; unable to get it back by legal means (although legally it WAS theirs) the Germans finally got it by putting pressure. What on earth has this have to do with the Holocaust?
40. Richard - US, EU investing
avi ,   Gaza   (11.28.07)
To be honest, we are much better off without their "investment" How many countries have they ruined and just walked away from? Israel is a pawn of the US. Those who do not see this, especially now, are fools.
41. Last reply to Richard Re: #32 (Part 2)
Jon D. ,   Toronto, Canada   (11.29.07)
To you, everyone is so stupid but not you...oh not you--you can spot all the lies of the politicians. They might be playing up to the cameras for their electorate and seem to be hard on the Israelis but in reality, they are back door doubling dealing! As I say Richard, you're just amazing how textbook your mind is, it's no different than another poster on a different Israeli on-line newspaper who repeated the same sort of crap as you! But he went one step further by saying that America is going bankrupt because it's giving so much money to Israel! I told this over the top obsessed anti-Semite that America is going into debt from what it is spending just in Iraq per month! I told this small minded jerk that Israel may get the equivalent of 2 to 3 weeks worth of greenbacks for the entire year from what the U.S. government is pouring into Iraq each month! I told him that Israel isn't your greatest worry, China is! Your manufacturers are dumping cheap Chinese produced goods into the U.S. economy which in the end will bankrupt America! There's no money being invested into the U.S. anymore, all major manufacturing is being out-sourced to the third world and then these products get re-imported back into the American economy. There's no added value to the market and as such the U.S. dollar will become worthless! It's already being devalued--not the fault of the Jews by the way! Once manufacturing goes on the cheap, every other domestic employer wants to do the same, so now you have an economy based on low cost labour (non livable wages). The average American doesn't want these jobs, so now you must fill these jobs with Mexicans. Undocumented alien workers that don't pay taxes and the social system (hospitals, public schools, etc.) becomes overburdened. And finally you have the military commitment in Afghanistan but primarily the money pit in Iraq. All these forces at play are bringing down the American economy, yet this over obsessed anti-Semite feels that the little bit of money the U.S. government gives to Israel is causing the economic decay of America! That's how the narrow minded, highly obsessional anti-Semitic and antisocial personality works--and that's you Richard to a tee! Everything in the world is not about Israel but to you and your skewed mind-set everything is very simplistic and the Jews along with their country are at the heart of your obsession! By the way, some people can legitimately criticize Israel and not be anti-Semites but you're not doing this--you're an anti-Semite who is criticizing Israel! But you're not really criticizing Israel, you're ranting and raving regarding delegitimizing Israel in the context that: it's just colonized by European Jews, the Palestinian Arabs are the real descendants of this land, Israel is just a militaristic neo-Nazi fascist regime, etc. etc. etc. etc.!!!! That's why you're sick! That's why you have an unhealthy preoccupation with Israel! That's why you spend all your spare time leeching around Jewish web sites denouncing Israel! That's why in your simplistic mind, the Jews and everything they've ever accomplished (including founding Israel) is abhorrent to you! And the bottom-line is that I've proved not just to you but to everyone here that you're an obsessional anti-Semite! Do you still claim my debating skills are weak?
42. Last reply to Richard Re: #32 (Part 1)
Jon D. ,   Toronto, Canada   (11.29.07)
Ok--Let's look at my post, it's number 27...uh now let's look at your reply, post #32; your response is my debating skills are weak? That's your answer? Uh...you're an idiot!! I have 2 university degrees and I nailed your personality exactly to a tee, you have no way to challenge me and you know it! You're trapped and the only way out is to aggressively attack and insult the person of superior knowledge! Your answer epitomizes the text book example of the antisocial personality complex. You definitely have the inability to learn from experience, you're unable to absorb criticism, you are totally oblivious to how you come off to others and there's more...oh so many more traits that's fascinating! You're constantly criticizing and over-correcting others (i.e. look at post #37) to such an extent that your obsession with being right all the time does the complete opposite! Spewing out your filthy logic ad nauseam just proves your inability to learn from others. You hate Jews so much that the only knowledge you can absorb is if it deals with Jewish conspiratorial theories. Post # 37 demonstrates you feel that Israel is just this massive military machine, you're incapable of looking at Jews with a civil society. The Jews are the aggressors in your little world, where there's a massive conspiracy, everything in the Middle East is really because of Israel! The U.S. invaded Iraq because of Israel. The Annapolis peace conference isn't actually about weakening Israel, it's about strengthening its hand so as to give the Jews the go ahead to militarily attack Iran! Black is white and white is black!
43. Landau's letter
Jorge Ferreira ,   Rio de Janeiro, Braz   (12.01.07)
Dear Mr. Landau, Your having been an MK does not necessarily mean you master history. Chamberlain appeased Hitler because the British ruling elite and some leading British businessmen were financing Hitler along with some leading American businesses. You must know that it was the British who sponsored the 'flight' of the Final Solution co-architect Amin al-Husseini from Nuremberg's claws. And it has been thoroughly documented that the CIA was entirely made by WW2 Nazis. And the US (with the help of your Labor and Likud colleagues in the Palestinian case) have armed Israel's enemies to their teeth since 1967. Therefore, as a descendant of Holocaust survivors and a Jewish leader, you should use your authority to let your readers know that Rice today is NOT about to become Chamberlain but rather Eichmann or his friend al-Husseini. Other than that, and considering you are an honest defender of your brethren, check Churchill's post-war record. Just look at who his American friends were. Look at P. Addison's biography of Churchill, called "The Unexpected Hero". If that is not enough, why would you be so fond of the Englishman behind the White Paper and other British anti-Jewish initiatives?
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