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Palestinian farmer killed by IDF fire in Gaza, official says
Ali Waked and agencies
Published: 07.12.07, 10:23
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1. farmer
yosef ,   israel   (12.07.07)
Evil IDF assuming that a guy walking with a kalachnikov was anything but a farmer when all he was doing was planting a barrel of TNT to feed his poor family.
2. More deadly than suicide bombers
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (12.07.07)
Another IOF accident. The IOFs and their deliberate accidents kill far more than suicide bombers.
3. to Number 1
Sheldon ,   Earth   (12.07.07)
Sick comment about the death of a human being. I cannot believe that people have become that disincentives about the loss of life. Your comment are more disgusting coming from a people who suffered under the German Nazis.
4. who said it was an accident? IDF shoot legitimately
jack bauer   (12.07.07)
if someone is plowing his field he wont be shot if sombody is picking oranges they wont be shot only acting suspiciously near the border where rockets or mortars have just been launched oh and if IDF routinely capture alive suicide bombers with vests on by calling out first and getting them to lie down and give up instead of shooting first, what makes nayasyers so sure this dude was an innocent farmer? and the IDF cold blooded murderers?
5. #1 the Hammas says the same thing
PL   (12.07.07)
when a rocket kills a civilian in Sderot: "he/she were potential occupation soldiers". "Great minds" think alike.
6. Gaza reaps what Gaza sows
Moishe ,   NYC USA   (12.07.07)
If the vile thugs from Hamas continue to control Gaza, and if they continue to spend all of their time on killing and terrorizing their own people, in addition to DAILY missles into Israeli civilian areas, the IDF will do what it MUST do. IF the so-called "farmer" was innocent, he is a collateral damage victim of Hamas's Terror War. Sad but real. Hamas created and maintains the slowly burning war---with the help of Iran, Syria, and Russia. Israel is to be given credit for the HUGE restraint it has (foolishly?) taken in NOT attacking Gza, and in (foolishly?) trying to seek peace by UNILATERALLY forcing all Jews out of Gaza (just as it has forced Jews out of parts of the so-called West Bank.) Israel's NUMEROUS attempts at peace have failed, The ONLY way left is the TOTAL removal and relocation of ALL muslims from ALL of Israel. There are MANY muslim nations were NO JEWS are allowed to live (and even visit, in some). The road to peace seems to ONLY be REMOVAL AND EXPULSION of ALL muslims from Israel. Since 1920, the modern land of Israel was intended to be a Jewish State---just as their are over one dozen nations which state that they are ISLAMIC nations. This is the way that it was supposed to be. When the British mandate of Palestine was divided by the Legue of Nations in 1920, Jordan was SOLELY for the muslims. Modern Israel (River to Sea; Eliat to Golan) was solely for the Jews. Jews are NOT allowed to live in Jordan, to this day. Jews are NOT allowed to live in Saudi Arabia, and other muslim countries. All Jews have been expelled from many arab countries. NO RIGHT OF RETURN FOR JEWS EXPELLED FROM ARAB COUNTRIES EXPEL ALL MUSLIMS from all of Israel. THIS IS THE ONLY ROAD TO PEACE. Israel has VALIANTLY tried everything else. All else has failed. Muslims REFUSE to allow a Jewish state in the land of Israel. MUSLIMS OUT OF ISRAEL!! The only way to peace.
7. poor farmer
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.07.07)
Planting bombs.
8. #2 lydia - Are you stupid enough to believe the HAMAS lies?
Umm El Kul Naqba   (12.07.07)
It has been documented that the terrorist launch rockets from school yards. They deploy in hospitals, schools, and mosques. They smuggle, kidnap, rape, murder and everything else. However, they only lie each time that they open their mouths. They committed horrendous acts of terror blowing up buses, stabbings, driveby shootings, etc. They started all the terror nearly a century ago. Now they are reaping their just rewards. Our extremely effective counter-terror actions have contained the terror in their backyards. We originally left Gaza in Disengagement and the animals destroyed the hothouses that were purchased to help their economy and provide jobs and income. They destroyed the synagogues and began launching Qassams from the very places we left. Hopefully Barak or Olmert's replacement will go into Gaza and clean up big time stopping the Qassam and killing all the terrorists. Until then Howitzers are not very good for plowing. Stop believing the terrorist lies.
9. #2 Lydia - Yes and the farmer was the grandson of
meir elazar   (12.07.07)
#2 Lydia - Yes and the farmer was the grandson of archbishop of Jerusalem. His mother was the mother superior of the convent in Bethlehem for the last 40 years. When not farming the farmer was a prize winning author of best sellers such as "The Effects of Advanced Tensor Calcus on the Social Evolution of the Aboriginies".
10. Really don't care
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11. Do the right thing
Rami ,   Nazareth, israel   (12.07.07)
Regadless how much jews hate the palestinians. The IDF should do its utmost to make sure innocent civilians are not harmed by trigger happy soldiers. This incident should be invistigated, If soldier is at fault, he/she should be punished and rules of ingagement changed.
12. To Israelis
grt ,   USA   (12.07.07)
From a citizen of a country that Commonwealthers constantly try to encourage hatred for because of 'friendly fire' incidents -- Those who do nothing never make mistakes. People who think the world, and moreover war, is perfect should get out of the kitchen.
13. to 5
(12.07.07)
there is different between someone will potentially become soldier or will and someone who go to place from where they fire rockets. They no the I.D.F. don't allow civilians to be there because they fire rockets from there. It is not the I.D.F. that will use Israeli civilians as human shield. But we know that what Hamas do. Now it is suppose to be farmer next time he will put a bomb. He knew he had nothing to search there because of the conflict.
14. And just because Hamas uses 'farmers'
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.07.07)
To gather intelligence and observe Israeli reactions we are suppose to wait until the very moment they pull the trigger and only then we can shoot back? I don't think so. Hamas has declared war on Israel. Gaza under international is a free fire zone. TFB people.
15. #3 Sheldon
Jae   (12.07.07)
That is easy to say that we are so calous, when we have had family members killed in attacks ourselves. You tell me how you would feel in this situation
16. unnecessary violence
Shir ,   Finland   (12.07.07)
Israeli soldiers are working off their frustration on innocent Palestinians civilians when they are too scared to go to Iran to confront true enemies. Leave the Palestinians alone, they are not the source of problems, especially since all their weaponry and money for Hamas is coming from Iran.
17. a farmer...cry me a river...
stephane ,   france   (12.07.07)
and please ynet, remind me what was the job of IDO ZOLDAN, murdered a week ago by palestinians policemen from the FATAH ? you know? fatah...this terrorist organisation we're supposed to achieve peace with them...
18. Crazy looking Nagmachon in Picture
Ben   (12.07.07)
19. It's sad...
Micha   (12.08.07)
that inoocents are killed. The gaza militants said they fired from the field, so they need to take a bulk of the responsibility. Obviously, if they never fired from the field, then Israeli troops wouldn't target people in those areas. the arabs collectively punish their own and others. What a lovely peace partner we have.
20. People like #2 are just idiots..don't worry about it..
Micha   (12.08.07)
I'm curious..do arabs ever prosecute their own for firing rockets onto civilian targets? Just curious. I've never heard of it. I've only heard of encouragement from the arab powers that be.
21. Comment from Finland..
Micha   (12.08.07)
that's just a racist sleight. that's uncalled for. Working off frustrations? give me a break. do u really believe that? How many Jews in Finland? Ever met one? You'd like a world catastrophe by attacking Iran. We'll make sure Helsinki is on their hit list. Take care.
22. to #15 using the same logic of Hamms
Sheldon ,   Earth   (12.08.07)
Your argument sounds exactly as the one given by the suicide bombers Shamam abu Ghouzala from the Islamic Jihad (suicide video February 2003).: "When you see your family blown to peices by the Zionist occupantion forces, then you will rejoice at every death on the other side......" (Quote, unqoute) ..Now where is the difference between your argument and his argument? If the circle of violence is not stopped, how long can we go on killing and being killed? Killing the farmer brings more hate, alienate another fringe of the Palastinian society and breeds more radicals to keep us busy for another 60 Years! (and it does not look like it is getting better). Remember, 25 years ago? it was a rarety to find a single gun in the Gaza strip, let alone the W.Bank, the best they could come up with was stones and cocktail molotovs. Nowadays, Hammas & Co are producing RPG's like butter bread! ...have a nice day!
23. Sheldon
Moishe ,   NYC USA   (12.08.07)
Sheldon----The biggest reason why the muslime thugs in Gaza, etc. are more heavily armed today is due to the foolish Israelis giving these bums more access to suppliers, and the INCESSANT 24/7 hatred spewed on plo tv, radio, press, mosque. Check out www.memri.org, or any other site that re-plays what the "muslime on the street" is hearing. I have been to Israel many times, and check Israeli DAILY. I have NEVER---read again---NEVER---heard any vile, bold, false propaganda which rises to the level of that spewed in the arab media. As I have said, the ONLY way to peace is total expulsion of all muslims from Gaza, Judea, Samaria and Golan. This generation and the next generation have been so filled with vitriol and evil propagana---there is NO hope for peace. The only other solution is a total war and virtual elimination of the enemy.
24. since number 21 had to get personal...
Shir ,   Finland   (12.09.07)
My dad´s Israeli and his family have lived in Israel a long time before the State of Israel was even founded. They helped to build the nation and fought in the 1948 war. There are too many cowards in modern-day Israeli. Israel needs people who are willing to give their lives, because NOBODY´s, and I repeat NOBODY´s life is more worthy than the land of Israel and the future of Jewish children. So you think shooting innocent civilians is honourable? What a little COWARD you must be not to see it is a COWARDLY deed. You just don´t get it, IF ISRAEL DOESN´T ATTACK IRAN, WORSE WILL FOLLOW, in fact if Iran develops their nuclear weapon, there will be no Israel in the future. It makes me so angry that there are people like you in Israel. Weak, dumb and cowardly. There should be more people like me who are willing to risk their own lives for the land that they love. But I come from a strong military family, so it´s probably in the genes, kind of like your cowardice in yours.
25. #8,#9,#20 If the jews accupied my country!!
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (12.09.07)
Suicide bombers, Qassams, stones you fail to understand that the action of Hamas and Hizbullah is legitimate resistance to the jewish occupation and murder. Numerous UN resolutions for the jews to return to the legitimate borders have been ignored. The IOF has made themselves a reputation (not dissimilar to Blackwater) of shooting unarmed civilians,mothers, children, UK citizens, photographers, UN peacekeepers etc. etc. something has to be done to stop them. Even Blackwater has been forced to face their day of reckoning, so must the jews!
26. Touche' Shir
mordechai ,   London,UK   (12.09.07)
Touche', my friend. Israelis is in a NASTY neighbourhood. These thugs must be dealt with. They will only get worse, if ignored. The Almighty has given us this land. As long as we follow Torah, it will be ours.
28. Lydia in Australia
israeli ,   israel   (12.10.07)
are you Aborigine?
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