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Shas minister: Americans' attitude to report reminiscent of Auschwitz
Roni Sofer
Published: 09.12.07, 14:30
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31. Ink on the truu&real Americans'Green Cards are not even dry
Alan ,   SA   (12.10.07)
32. Nukes and Adulthood
Big Bill ,   Cambridge, USA   (12.10.07)
For thousands of years the Hebrew people have turned to the (gentile) Prince for support, and he has betrayed you in favor of his own people every time. It is for this reason you created your own state in your own land filled with your own people: so you need not rely upon the Prince, but could become a "nation among the nations", the equal in power and might to any other nation on the face of the earth. You can rely on no one but yourself, u hat is not bad. As an "adult" nation you should not want to rely on anyone but yourself. You have the tools --100-300 nuclear weapons -- and the means to deliver them. So assume your proper position, threaten the Arab and Persian world right back at them, defend your people and join the the nations of the earth as an equal. You do not need the USA to save you, you just need to shake off your passive, cringing, guilt-tripping attitude and do what needs to be done, take for yourself what is yours, and let the world be damned. Grow some b@lls and do what you know needs to be done -- don't beg the Americans to do it for you. Stain your hands with the blood of other peoples and learn to live with the guilt as all other nations and peoples do. Selah.
33. Hey there
Hotchney ,   US   (12.10.07)
Hey Israel, if you're so worried about Iran, do something. It's not like you don't have the capabilities. Why should we send our sons to die for you?
34. attitudes about NIE report
jonathon quinton ,   von ormy, texas, usa   (12.10.07)
if the NIE report is correct, if all this is so benign, then why has Saudi Arabia, and other Gulf countries, signed on to (Amer.Def.Scy.) Gates plan for anti-missile umbrella in the Gulf Region? and more specifically, why have the Saudis signed off on the purchase of 100s of patriot anti-missile interceptors? this seems to give the lie to the NIE conclusions and Cheney's endorsement of them.
35. Feel Free to
hmmm ,   Awesomness City, USA   (12.10.07)
Fight Iran your g-d damned selves. We're already tied up in the first war you got us into.
36. Hyy, #13!
Mike ,   Boston, MA, USA   (12.10.07)
For myself and millions like me, Christian Zionism is a way of life. So don't you dare presume to speak for me, you anti-semitic scaphocephalic.
37. Confused
Joey ,   Newark, NJ, USA   (12.10.07)
What do you think Iran wants from us? Im confused.. Are they looking for us to give them something?
38. Those crazy Islamists....
Spoff ,   Auckland New Zealand   (12.10.07)
...they do anything their Mullahs tell them...except obey the Fatwa against the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons issued by Supreme Leader Khameini. http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=302258 ....tricky little devils
39. # 13 Don't speak for me!
Paul ,   USA   (12.10.07)
Not a chance that #13 is correct when he says Americans are sick of Israel. I would lay down my life protecting my countrymen and that includes Jewish Americans. The real Americans understand that we owe the Jews a debt of gratitude for carrying the burden of the Law and what a burden to carry! Christains consider Israelis as brothers and sisters and we will never turn our backs on you. If our elected leaders change course midstream and turn on Israel it is no fault of ours. We can only take their word at face value when they make pre-election promises. Believe me, the White House knows full well how we feel about the land for peace deals. You are not alone Israel. Millions of Christians love you and we do what we can to try and influence our elected leaders to do the right thing. The left is at the core of any anti-Israel talk and they are also anti-American. Israel has it's own problems with leftists so I know you understand the difficulty of having a leader who will not listen to you. Please do not think your real friends have abandoned you. All these things will come to pass as God has planned, but it will be a bitter pill for all of us. There will be a King again in Jerusalem someday and he will rule the world. Blessed is he that calls upon the name of the Lord. Amen!
40. Yitzhak Cohen @ Auschitz
E.W. Rodier ,   Jupiter, USA   (12.10.07)
Mr. Cohen of Shas posits that America is looking the other way on Iran as it did on Auschwitz. Mr. Cohen, in WWII America was at war with Germany and most / many on the trains to Auschwitz were Germans citizens. Why was it the duty of the U.S to use scarce man power, dollars and energy to save deported people who were costing the Germans marks, man power and energy? Our power was better used to protect our own soldiers. Would Israel have done more if the situatiion were reversed? You are nearer Iran than the US and have plenty of nukes that we paid for. You also have the capabilty to deliver them which we also paid for. Please spare our airman and stand up for israel yourselves. Iran equals Auschwitz and America is once again denuonced by Shas. Give it rest! You sir are a cynic of the worst order and an ingrate at that. Sincerely, Edward W. Rodier (SGT. Ret.)
41. Minister Cohen's outrageous comments
George Ingram ,   Ocean City, NJ, USA   (12.10.07)
With all due respect. Minister Cohen is an asshole.
42. 29 Steve What idiot polls are you reading?
Claudia ,   Tampa, USA   (12.10.07)
Only a few months ago 76% of Americans were in strong support of Israel. And unscientifically, everyone I have talked with since the NIE report last week is aware our intelligence agencies are trying to make policy not report factual data. When was the last time they got anything right? Obviously their analytical ability is faulty at best, and here come the Dems again trying to cut funding and pack agencies with ineffective liberals that put up walls to keep them from really knowing what the here is going on. Sick, sick, sad people.
43. Iranian nuclear aspirations
Dave ,   Orting, Washington,   (12.10.07)
I'm with Israel. I believe that Iran is most definitely pursuing the goal of attaining nuclear weapons and simply put, they must be stopped. Better now than later, when the cost will be much higher. It certainly won't be easy (Is it ever?) but, waiting until they test a weapon is like closing the barn door after the horse got out. I also believe that the people who put out that report about Iran halting plans for a nuclear weapon back in 2003 don't believe what they themselves have written.
44. Shas
Halvah ,   USA   (12.10.07)
Shas should leave the Olmert government immediately. It is a danger to Israel.
45. People of the Golan
John Coady ,   Leesburg, Florida   (12.10.07)
Give Golan back to Syria. Yediot Aharanot has already published (1998) a confession by Moshe Dayan that you provoked the Syrians to get some good farmland. Don't you read your own newspapers? Now start waving your hands around and change the subject. What a joke you hardliners are. Do your own dirty business with Iran.
46. well, we were gonna send The
Arlo ,   NYC, USA   (12.10.07)
Naval ship The U.S.S. Liberty to help ya out, but then realized it had been shot to hell when Israel attacked it in 1967.
47. We're with you Israel!
An American ,   USA   (12.10.07)
We don't want Iran to have nukes any more than you do!
48. If Iran Is Such A Threat......
J ,   New York   (12.10.07)
Why does Israel do something about it rather than rely on the U.S. to fight it's battles? If you perceive them as a threat take care of it yourself.
49. The West is not confused (You are Right On)
Daniel ,   Sacramento, USA   (12.10.07)
You are right. I hate to say it but Israel can never rely on even the USA. We have some wimpy political animals. Your inteligence is better than our anyway. Trust you instincts on this one.
50. Most Americans aren't racist, just ignorant
Dan ,   Orlando, FL USA   (12.10.07)
True American does not speak for most Americans. America will not even protect its own against the Islamic agenda of destruction, why would Israel believe we would stand up for them. Israel should begin taking steps to protect themselves because if they don't the U.S. will, in fact, allow them to perish.
51. why doesn't Israel attack attack them
Johm ,   US   (12.10.07)
if this is so serious, why doesn't Israel attack them? We started a war with Iraq and do not have another $1.5 Trillion laying around. (Not to mention the ~4000 dead soldiers or the tens of thousands who are maimed) If this is a precursor to Auschwitz, as the minister says, that YOU start the war. Get all these keyboard warriors here to lead. If he is using hyperbole, he ought to STFU; we are not buying it. Israel is not ours to sacrifice, unless you are suggesting that israel is part of or runs the US. We are TWO different countries ..
52. can any one person be more desperate?
David ,   USA   (12.10.07)
This is so utterly pathetic of Mr. Cohen. To invoke the horrors of the Holocaust so as to reduce the significance of it into a mere scare tactic. He must've gotten it from President Bush's playbook of imminent WMD use by Saddam Hussein. I'm in Iraq right now for the second time fighting his war, and guess what, um...nope...no WMD's here. Oh wait, what now? We're here for their freedom? Ohhh...my fault.
53. The West is not confused... Terry...
Rick ,   Midland, Texas - USA   (12.10.07)
Terry, I assure you that while our politicians are careful not to publicly side with our enemy's enemy, there is tremendous support for Israel here among US citizens. We're on the same team, and anyone that messes with Israel will regret it.
54. Cohen is living in the past.
kevin l ,   winnipeg, canada   (12.10.07)
Yitzak Cohen is somehow trying to compare intel of today to that of the great wars. He must be embarrassed by now, or should be. I am sticking strictly to his topic, and he does no good for Israel by saying such a ridiculous thing, that the rest of the planet scoffs at.
55. Liberal USA Congress
Mark David Chapman ,   Attica, USA   (12.10.07)
The American Congress is trying to facilitate the end of Israel. They are cow towing to the muslum regime in an effort to keep peace with our domestic muslum population. This is an extremely dangerous situation for Israel. I strongly suggest that you launch a pre-emptive attack on Iran yourselves in order to save your civilization. The rest of the civilized world will follow suit and strafe the ashes. Please heed this warning. You must save yourselves!! MDC
56. It's a Chess match, don't be fooled
Chris ,   Dallas, Tx USA   (12.10.07)
Ok, please take this all in because I thought this to be true the second I saw the report. Two days after the intel report came out that Iran had suspended it's Nuke program, the Iranian Government sent a letter to the White House and the U.N. complaining that the U.S. Government had spied on Iran to get this information. For those of you who play Chess, please read between the lines of the speed of this letter coming from Iran and what it said. Why would Iran confirm this intel so quickly if it was true? Isn't it so obvious that this was a quick Chess move to make the apponit think he made the right move? Of-course it is! This is a move to make the American Gov. think it got the intel correct while Iran moves toward Check Mate (Nuke Weapons)! Not only did I think this to be true the second I read it, like I said, but the British intel, along with what Israeli intel has been saying all along, that my assumption is true! Iran is playing the game but to the nonbiased American, they just made a mistake. My Government, Please open your eyes and decide on the correct course of action, don't let party differences decide my families fate. I care for America's well being and if there is a peace to be found on the other side of war, then so be it! Also, I speak for the vast majority of Christian American (the major of Americans) that I support Israel as a friend and a brother! To the death if needs be!
57. Iran
Ken Gardner ,   Parkland U.S.A.   (12.10.07)
President Bush has delivered on his promise to fight terroism. He has taken the heat for Iraq and now he is taking similar heat for his tough talk about Iran. American jew are really wimps when it comes to terroism. They are more likely to vote for some one who will talk to Iran than some one like Rudy who will scare the living daylights out ot terroist.
58. #13 "True American"
Ironcandle ,   Atlanta, GA   (12.10.07)
#13 is not a true American. I am guessing an Arab, because of the writing style and use of words. Either way, he is wrong. Americans BY FAR support Israel. Do any of you Israelis think that we would put up with this Arab crap if we didn't support Israel? We could solve all our problems by letting the Arabs overrun your country (which I doubt they could). We would be pals with the Arabs and Persians, get cheap oil, not have to shoot every Islamic terrorist that crawls out of his hole. But we are in support of Israel, and have been the ones doing the fighting recently. The Shas Minister should also keep in mind who stopped the Holocaust, who was instrumental in establishing Israel, and who has been protecting Israel all these years. Also, #29, Steve in Fla. is a dumbass.
59. Iranian intel
Jacob ,   Salem, OR   (12.10.07)
It's time for the US to tell Israel to get lost. Who needs the ingratitude and self-pity? Enough already.
60. American Allies
Nick ,   Richmond, Va.   (12.10.07)
Americans do not want nuclear war. The thought of Iran acquiring nuclear ballistic technologies is every American's nightmare. We realize that Israel is Iran's #1 target , but we are a close second. America needs a leader that leads global alliances against nuclear proliferation. Ashamed, our faulty intelligence told us that Iraq possessed WMD. Now, we must handle revealing Iran and possibly Russia's weapons development correctly in order to gain international/UN support.
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