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Shas minister: Americans' attitude to report reminiscent of Auschwitz
Roni Sofer
Published: 09.12.07, 14:30
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121. #13 not representative
Doug ,   Portland, OR US   (12.10.07)
#13, regardless of what he thinks, is not representative of most American's opinions. By and large, we wish Israel well and will aid when we can. What we won't do though is fight your wars for you. The threat is to Israel. Israel must meet it. If it isn't serious enough for Israel to sacrifice it's young over, why should America sacrifice hers? America can't and won't fight another mideast war unless directly and clearly threatened.
122. Americans' attitude to report reminiscent of Auschwitz
Albert R Shurgalla ,   Singapore   (12.10.07)
Let's not have a double standard. Let's come clean. Does Israel have the "bomb" ? Will Israel submit to the same inspections they request of Iran ? As an American I do support Israel but I do believe there is also a double standard at play here. I think if Israel were to swear and forgo its own nuclear program and allow for the same inspections as it is requesting from Iran it would have the support of the entire world. But, as long as Israel wants its own secret nukes and at the same time makes Iran out to be the villain well that is not going to fly. If Israel has them, world opinion will be that then Iran should have them too in self defense. But, if Israel forgoes them then there will be IMMENSE pressure on not only Iran but all its neighbors to also forgo them.
123. Not a peep about seizing the Golan
John Coady ,   Leesburg, Florida   (12.10.07)
Typically, the really open sores of Israeli behavior like the phony excuses for seizing the Golan in my previous post are studiously ignored. This will be followed by endless debates around Israeli dinner tables about why Israel policies are so despised by most of the world. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
124. Artificial Intelligence
Mark Denton ,   Kansas City, MO   (12.10.07)
Based on Iraq intelligence and the agenda of the Israeli government to marginalize the Iranian government, why should we not believe the Israeli intelligence is the Artificial Intelligence?
125. At least you realize the real religion
Mark D ,   K.C, MO   (12.10.07)
I am glad to see the American Christians stepping up and acknowledging that the only real religion is judaism and the only people considered Gods people are the Jews! Hard to understand freaks sitting around praying for the end of days, but they and their war mongering kin need to find a real life!!
126. Why thank you, Minister, for the proverbial 'cheap shot'
Cameron ,   USA   (12.10.07)
Sorry I'll probably never have the distinct pleasure and opportunity of putting my foot in your pompous, self-righteous bottom. Spare us the sanctimonious crap & have a care to mind thy mouth. #121 spoke a no. of cold truths, and you & other Israelis would be extremely wise to heed them. America has always stood by your side when affairs got heavy, so take care not to screw that up! Cheap shots indeed.
127. to American true american
native born american ,   USA   (12.10.07)
Speak for yourself! Most Americans know their Bible, and we must pray for Israel. The land was given to the 12 tribes of Israel, and land is never to be traded for peace. America wants to take care of it's own? Our own is all that profess the One Creator, and follow Him.
128. Israeli interests are no longer America's interests
Will ,   NY, NY   (12.10.07)
#22: As an American I do think something of interfering in Israel's affairs. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of wasting millions of dollars of taxpayers money to support the Israeli military. I'm tired of America attempting to broker peace in the middle east through treaties that will never be upheld. I'm tired of losing the lives of young American boys to protect the chosen people from their neighbors. I wish we had absolutely nothing to do with Israel, because every time we give you money so you can purchase arms from us to prop up your military it adds a little more anti-American sentiment to the middle east. Oops, am I allowed to say that, or does not wanting to waste American money and lives on your protection make me anti-semitic? I agree with you completely regarding SA. There is no more treacherous ally to have than SA in the middle east. But really, what do you expect when you have an administration so tightly tied to the oil industry? Traitors all of them. #29: You are completely correct. Israel is a huge burden for the US, there is no question about it. Of course your veiled sarcasm was an attempt to twist the words spoken by #13 into some kind of ant-Israel post, but do not make the mistaken assumption that Americans being tired of footing the bill for Israel is the same as Americans wishing Israel would"vanish from the page of time" as Ahmadinejad actually stated. Wait, did I just post "vanish from the page of time" rather than "wiped off the map?" Are Americans starting to realize that the media made a horrible mistranslation of Ahmadinejad's speech, which in reality had no actual implications of violence? This could be a huge problem for the Zionist war machine. Lastly, your assumptions about Bush are false. He has been a tool of Israel from start to finish, and if his aggressive preemptive foreign policy had not failed so miserably in Iraq we would already have bombed Iran. Unfortunately for you he no longer has the political capital he once held. After all of the lies that lead to invading and occupying Iraq, it will be difficult for us to make the same mistake twice. Hopefully we will at least have concrete evidence this time before invading a country that does not threaten America. Billions of dollars spent, thousands of American troops dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, a new recruiting ground for Islamic extremists, and what do we have to show? An ungrateful child named Israel once again crying for its daddy to take out the bullies. Well hopefully this time we will not fall for the lies that lead us to invade Iraq. Hopefully this time we let Israel take care of its own dirty work.
129. Shas Auschwitz comment
fjpocala ,   ocala, USA   (12.10.07)
The problem in America is the Democratic parrty. The worst offenders are of jewish decent,. Senator Schumer et all have so much hatred for Geoege Bush that they have forgotten "NEVER AGAIN". Regards fjp
130. "If I am not for myself..."
David ,   Marietta GA   (12.10.07)
"... and if not now, WHEN?"
131. Israel Must Act in Own Interests
LDC ,   Dallas, USA   (12.10.07)
132. Iranian Justice
Rob ,   USA   (12.10.07)
Being that Israel used jets to take out Iraq's nuclear reactor, the Iranians will be waiting for such an attack. IMO it would be best to park a couple of submarines in the area and send in some good 'ol US cruise missles to take out their reactor and facilities. They'll never know what hit them!
133. 121 and others
Shir ,   Finland   (12.10.07)
"By and large, we wish Israel well" You think that will help Israelis in some way, you think that will prevent Israel from getting nuked? If Israel attacks Iran alone and wins the war things will change. Americans will lose a lot of political power and control in the Middle-East. And you shall never regain that power. Be prepared. You must think we Israelis are some weak and pathetic people, who can ´t make it without America. That´s where you got it wrong. We are strong people, we are no ´ghetto Jews´ and shall never be. Israel survived from the late 1800´s to 1973 without American help and Israel will survive now. Israel will win, and take all the glory, Americans are the ones who will lose. And we will still be supporters of USA, because we share same morals and values. But USA will never have the same political power and authority in the area. Enough said.
134. #116
Honest Guilani ,   NY USA   (12.10.07)
I am left speechless at your lack of knowledge. These myths you state have all been proven to be complete lies.The US needs to stop sending 3.2 billion dollars to Israel each year so she can fend for herself. After all, with all of the spying Israel has done on the US military, she has the capability of self defense. Everyone here seems to forget that there would not be an Israel without the US. We took care of your "greatest threat Iraq, and now you want more. Merry Christmas.
135. Are you kidding me?
Tired American ,   Tuscon USA   (12.10.07)
How much more do we need to do? We have stood behind, defended and even funded Israel to the hilt. YET, you have the audacity to proclaim that we could careless about what happens to you? I agree with the other American. Do it yourselves. I am tired of America coming to everyone's rescue and then being demonized for doing just that. The truth is Israel does not give a "rats ass" about the US!
136. Hypocrisy
Michael Moye ,   Beaufort, NC   (12.10.07)
Israel's had a good run and a free ride from the US since 1948. 60 years later most Americans are fed up with the endless handouts and lobbying that's giving the US a bad name with the rest of the world. Stop treating your Palestinian neighbors like dirt, learn to fly right, and stop your endless whining or Israel will soon have NO friends left. Americans are fed up with $7billion a year in handouts with zero in it for us.
137. FIE: anti-bush insider lies and more lies
Jim Black ,   Houston, Texas, USA   (12.10.07)
Just like Alger Hiss (except for three this time) and the democrats - your enemy is my friend thus marching the Jews and repatriated Russian soldiers to their deaths and effective counterintelligence Iran operatives.
138. Offensive Comments
Randy K ,   Kansas City, MO   (12.10.07)
I take offense that the author insinuates that Americans don't care. Most Americans I know support Israel and are concerned for the nations well being. Israel is surrounded by enemies and is a constant target. Cohen's comments are a slap in the face. NO COUNTRY has done more for Israel than America. He needs to choose his words more carefully or he risk alienating the only friend Israel has left. Peace my friends! RK
139. Israel, please help like you did with Iraq in the 80's
Mike ,   Upstate, N.Y.   (12.10.07)
Not to worry about Israel. Once the Iranian threat is immenent, they will send their planes and bomb Iran's nuke facility. Same as they did with Iraq in 1980, and the world applauded. The world will applaud again!
140. Auschwitz ?
John Armstrong ,   Chattanooga, TN USA   (12.10.07)
Just who exactly does this guy think he is ? I do believe that the Americans are the closest friends that Israel has. How many troops have we sent to protect them over the last decade ? How many have they sent to help us ? The LAST thing that America needs right now is to brush off intelligence reports that may suggest that someone out there ISNT planning on blowing everything up. I believe everyone already knows where cherry-picking of intelligence reports has gotten us.
141. Iran and the Holocaust
Jill Sim ,   U.S.A   (12.10.07)
Comparing Iran to Auschwitz is misguided. It would be more productive to discuss the hard facts using the best and most current intelligence in this case rather than to pander to the emotions of people by using the Holocaust to make a case for war with Iran. Two thirds of Israelis, according to recent polling, would not support a strike against Iran at this juncture, based on the existing intelligence. Diplomacy and open channels of communication are still key. Economic sanctions it is shown, if the failed Iraq war is a good measure, works better than force. Only peace is the true answer. War simply begets more war.
142. wrong approach
Brian   (12.10.07)
1. You cannot play the "holocaust card" every time an event occurs that does not act in your favor. Please read the book "Parallel Realities", which shows how BOTH Israelis and Palestinians "play the victim" to justify even the most abhorent actions. 2. If Israel has definitive evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weapons, please share it! Otherwise, the US is not about to be lead into another disastrous war on faulty premises.
143. I totally agree with # 124
Ibrahim ,   Egypt   (12.10.07)
Yeah I agree with you...the Israeli intelligence is artificial intelligence..personally I have been seen an Egyptian spy worked for Israel 2005-2006..and now He is jailed 25 years....most of his books and notes and electronic books on the laptop were about the artificial intelligence.
144. War with Iran is necessary
Rapture Ready ,   Rapture City, USA   (12.10.07)
In order for the lord, Jesus Christ, to return, Israel proper must be restored. This means the destruction of countries like Iran in an epic holy war. The end days are upon us, Glory Glory Halelujah!!!! Pretty soon the big man is going to take us all up in his magic space ship!!! We just need to help our OMNIPOTENT G-d get things started by doing his will for him.
145. Why aren't
Mike ,   Morehead USA   (12.10.07)
So many of these warhawks signing up for the military in droves? If we have a war with Iran, who is going to fight it, geniuses? You're all too busy on your QWERTY's to pick up a rifle.
146. IRAN
chris ,   Liberty Lake USA   (12.10.07)
I am confident that if and when Israel goes after Iran, the USA will be there and will support the action.I just hope Israel does it SOONER than later. I think that this country is impotent with fear of the bully label. I do not care too much for Bush, but, I am confident that he would be much more agressive if the atmosphere here in the USA was not so caustic in this election season. I have always watched Israel and am a very staunch supporter of nearly all of their actions, politically as well as militariiy.
147. NOMATTER WHAT>> MAHMOOD
Chris USA ,   Liberty Lake USA   (12.10.07)
Hey dude, In case you have not been awake in the last 6 months, Israel and the USA took part in a covert and as yet very unknown strike deep in syeria. The technology that was used was so advanced that it made the Iraq air operations look like WW-2. We have no fear of going over, around, through, and under Iran when needed. Their defences will last about as long as the "crack" Republican Guards of Iraq..Just a total stupid messed up mix of glory seekers and unemployed dummies that were just looking for regular meals, never to have to fight on this level..YOU CANT AND NEVER WILL BE ABLE TO. I would suggest getting used to the fact that we can and will get you at our own leisure. This is not meant as any threat, but as a matter of fact. All that you can ever imagine as a super advanced weapon or defense, we have, only 100 years more advanced than you will ever think of. AMEN brother.
148. Israel
Mousy ,   Troy, U.S.A   (12.10.07)
Poor, poor Israel. Always complaining that everyone hates you. How much, exactly do you want? Do you ever try to change what you think every non-jew hates about you? I for one, at least , will not waste time hating anyone. Don't flatter yourself. Even though you own 99.99% of everything on T.V. including the shows that berate & belittle christians, I find it deploreable but not worthy of the emotion of hate. I know it's impossible but try, SHAPE UP.
149. You'll find US Support of Israel
US Support of Israel ,   Detroit   (12.10.07)
buried next to Rachel Corrie.
150. cohen
rmv ,   ocala fl   (12.10.07)
is there no end to the insults that this great friend of ours gives us? we should cut off all aid to these ungratful people in israel. without us they would not even be able to exist. of course they could continue to sell our military technology to whoever. enough is enough
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