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Haredi lottery comes to town
Neta Sela
Published: 13.12.07, 12:33
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1. Is this legal?
Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (12.13.07)
Don't they need special permission from the government to gamble?
2. How about getting jobs instead?
Abba ,   Jerusalem   (12.13.07)
And DON'T transgress halacha by gambling? Or is that too complex? Why do chareidim always try to find an "angle" on everything?
3. Also for non-Hareidim
Shalom   (12.13.07)
I hope that many non-Hareidim who wish to give to charity, while entering a lottery will also enter.
4. Can someone explain
Hiram ,   Paris   (12.13.07)
What/Who is a "Haredi drop out " ?? Is it someone who is fed up with HAredi obscurantism and leaves the community, or someone who is an Haredi geard up to become a street criminal ? Which one ? And furthermore , how can a Haredi become a "drop out "? That is an interesting question no ?
5. ynet. learn to add. fix the number errors about the winnings
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6. Where will it all lead to
Simon ,   TA Israel   (12.13.07)
What ever next ? basicly the lottery is a form of gambling despite what some Rabbi decides to rename it. i mean where will it all lead to? Being addicted to gambling, alcoholism, casinos in Bnei Brak and Meir Shareem and attracting all those sleazy women, crime , gambling debts and so on. What kind of an example are they setting us now i wonder?
7. 100 Shekels a pop?
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (12.13.07)
That will sure limit the numbers of tickets sold.
8. lottery
shloime ,   LONDON   (12.13.07)
I totaly agree with #6 comments this is nothing more than gambling and people will spend a lot of money that they can ill afford hoping to win large amounts.I would love to know who these rabonim are who sanction this and wether they have the agreement of the Gedolim I somehow doubt it.
9. Gambling is permitted by Jewish law in many cases.
Jeff ,   New York, NY   (12.13.07)
A Jew cannot be a professional gambler - this could mean anything from a professional poker player to a "day trader" that buys and sells stocks in a matter of minutes several times throughout the day. Casual gambling is permitted in most cases. The lottery format (whether Mifal HaPayis or this new Goralot) are the least problematic forms of gambling according to Jewish law. Ask a rabbi or look in the code of Jewish law before you assume that the Haredim are being hypocritical.
10. Predicatable "moral leadership" from our Rabbis
david ,   los angeles   (12.13.07)
11. Watch " Never Again " Movie on Gush Katif.
ben ,   singapore   (12.14.07)
Kosher Lottery v Gush Katif, Put that hand near your heart and think ! Kosher Gambling ?
12. And the haredi bashing continues...enough already
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13. #12
David ,   Los Angeles   (12.14.07)
If you think you can prevent criticism or scrutiny by condemning it as "haredi bashing," then you are much mistaken. Those who hold themselves up as our moral superiors (which there is no doubt they do) cannot complain when their own houses prove not to be in order. When intolerant Right-Wing Christian preachers are found to have had gay love affairs, and when haredi rabbis are found to be running a gambling scheme with their rabbis' approval, or when their chidren are breaking car windshields on Shabbos, or when they are sleeping with hookers and justifying it because the women are not Jewish, they can expect to face criticism.
14. Lottery tax
Roland thomson ,   Jerusalem   (12.16.07)
Lotteries tend be a tax on the poor. Check who buys ticket in any lottery system. The chareidim have enough poor so why not give them false hopes and place a disguised tax on them with this game. Duh! Who will win? those that run it?
15. One has a right to spend their money as they wish
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (12.17.07)
It's usually the poor all over that buy lottery tickets, as you say. It's their right to spend their children's milk money on pipe dreams. Or do you want the government to step in and stop them?
16. Is lottery really gambling ?
Hiram ,   Paris   (12.20.07)
That is the first question to ask ! I am quite sure that there will be a lot of Rabbis explaining that lottery has nothing to do with Gambling !
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