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JNF rejects Orthodox applicant for failure to work on Saturday
Tani Goldstein
Published: 27.12.07, 10:02
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1. ice versa: She rejected the job!
Bored Guy ,   Israel   (12.27.07)
I am sorry, but this is how it works/ There are jobs that include work on the weekend. If you are afraid of the wrath of God, then you're not suited for it. Simple as that. After all spokesperson for an institution like this isn't being a secretary or a make-up artist. It is a demanding job and it is mostly directed at the outside world. Sorry to bring the bad news: 99.9% of the world population don't keep Shabbat.
2. I'm amazed to see this story in YNet
Shalom   (12.27.07)
I am delighted to see that this story has gained exposure. There is no issue here of pikuach nefesh (danger to a life); therefore there is no reason why any candidate for the job should be made to work on Shabbat.
3. MK Yishai on human rights what a joke
simon ,   TA Israel   (12.27.07)
How dare MK Yishai talk about human rights when he publicly vents his hatred towards gay people and continously incites violence . The only rights he cares about is of the ultra orthadox and Shas voters He dosent know the meaning of the words "human rights". What a shame he isnt intrested in the human rights of the Arab population as well !
4. Please wake up!
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.27.07)
The government does not represent the people. It only represents a small wealthy group in Israel, America and the UK. And the rest of the people be damned.
5. JNF rejects Orthodox applicant for failure to work on Saturd
mark ,   johannesburg   (12.27.07)
this is a disgrace..i intend stopping my JNF debit order until the JNF undertakes to close on Shabbat. I wasnt even aware they open on shabbat..this is an outrage!!!
6. Is this such a surprise?
Aviela ,   KochavYaakov, Israel   (12.27.07)
The JNF has been reported, be it per their choice or the government's, to be selling Jewish-bought land to arabs. So non-Jewish behavior is a surpise?
7. Since the JEWISH National Fund is shared with ARABS
Joseph P. ,   Jerusalem   (12.27.07)
or merely spoke about sharing it with Arabs, it COMPLETELY lost its Jewish identity. Hopefully, Jews all over the world will STOP giving them EVEN A SINGLE COPPER PENNY!
8. Not discrimination?
Yoni R. ,   Modiin, Israel   (12.27.07)
Maybe it's discrimination, or maybe it's not. But the fact that the interviewer comes from a religious background doesn't mean that it's not discrimination. If a black person refused to hire another black person because he was black, it would still be discrimination.
9. JNF has a galut mentality
Ilan ,   Ariel   (12.27.07)
Generations of Jews living outside of Israel have had to contend with a choice of honoring their Jewish beliefs or getting a job. This is one of the injustices that Zionism was supposed to repair. Even Herzl, by no means ultra-orthodox, championed Jews being able to enjoy their day of rest as a sign of normality. This is less Jewish than putting up a Christmas Tree (in reference to Mr. Parasitisty).
10. ARABS NEEDED FOR SATURDAY
NEAL GOLAM   (12.27.07)
THAT'S WHY THE JFN NEEDS ARABS TO WORK ON SATURDAY! THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE OFFERED ANOTHER JOB WITHOUT SATURDAYS! NOT TURNED AWAY! WHAT A COUNTRY?
11. JNF is for ATHEIST Jews only?
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12. JNF should be closed on Sabbath
Petra ,   usa   (12.27.07)
or change it's name. Israel is the only nation to keep and observe sabbath. As the JNF is open on the sabbath, it is they who break the commandment. To force Jews to do the same is not pleasing to the autor of the commandments. JNF in name only. Open for biz on Sabbath sends the absolute wrong message. The commandments are what seperates Jews from the gentiles. Maybe GNF for Gentiles....?
13. (J?) N F
Ezra ,   Canada   (12.27.07)
Refusing religious Jews as staff after hiring an Arab as director and allocating almost one third of its grants to arab communities... ... Conforting me in my years old decision to never again give a cent to these crooks.
14. JNF will never get a cent from me.
Harry   (12.27.07)
I hope that those who contribute to JNF will make their voices heard by stoping to donate to the Unjewish National Fund.
15. JNF
Marianne ,   New York, NY   (12.27.07)
THis is disgusting. I am not contributing any more to this anti-Jew establishment. How dare they!
16. What an Irony!
marv ,   NY   (12.27.07)
Here in the golah such an action would be illegal.
17. No more money from me to JNF!
Shomer Shabbat ,   Diaspora   (12.27.07)
I am emptying their pushka and putting it all in the Chabad and Magen David Adom pushkas. If I could pull out all the trees I planted in Israel 30 years ago, I'd do that too.
18. #12 Petra
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (12.27.07)
Petra: Please don't think I am finding fault with your talkbacks, I am only trying to understand you. You said, "keeping the commandments is what separates Jews from gentiles." I am a "gentile", a "goy", but I keep Shabbat, I keep the Feasts of Adonai, I to the best of my ability keep the commandments as best as I can understand them seeing that the Jewish Rabbi's will not teach Torah to goy. If what you say is true then what separates me from a Y'hudi? Isn't it only blood and not faith? Do you have a charitable answer for a G-d fearing goy?
19. Time to wake up......
Eli ,   Brooklyn N Y   (12.27.07)
its unbeleivable to sit by and watch how this country just drives itself down the drain no wonder that you read that there is going to be a sex fastivel in israel for the first time and then you read that one has to work on shabat... shame on you the new israel
20. I UNDERSTAND THIS COMPLETELY...
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (12.27.07)
I WAS REJECTED FOR A POSITION AT JEWISH BIG BROTHERS AND SISTERS BECAUSE I WAS UNWILLING TO FETCH TREIF FOOD FOR THEM. THESE PSEUDO-JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS ARE A JOKE WHEN IT COMES TO BEING JEWISH AND A SHAME WHEN IT COMES TO JUDAISM.
21. Think of the entire Jewish community worldwide.
Helen Levy ,   South Africa   (12.27.07)
There are so many different ways that one can look at this situation.There is the fact that the JNF had told their personnel agent to only refer candidates to them who were willing to work on Saturdays, yet they did not. There is also the fact that it seems rather odd for an organisation that is working in aid of Judaism and Israel, to want someone to work on a Saturday in the first place. However: The JNF stated that one of their busiest days was a Saturday. I can understand this, as the JNF works not only for Israeli's, but for the diaspora as well, whom unfortunately have to work by a timeline that is not determined by Jewish law ie. Saturday is the only really "free" day in Christian dominated countries. One could then say that everyone in the Diaspora should then make aliyah, but quite honestly, Israel could not hold that many people at the moment, even if the will was there. Although I agree that it is still a sad situation that organisations working for Israel and working towards bringing all Jews home, have to work on Shabbat, perhaps we can rather see it in the light of "saving lives", in which case 'working' on Shabbos is essential.
22. The JNF should be boycotted
Mordecha   (12.27.07)
This is their policy in the US too. I once interviewed for a position with them and was turned down because I wasn't willing to work on Yom Kippur. No Jew should give a dime to the JNF. Their is nothing Jewish about it. They shouldn't be arranging hikes or anything else on Shabbat.
23. #18 Efrayim
ezra ,   canada   (12.27.07)
According to jewish law, it is absolutely forbidden for a goy to keep shabat and don tefilin. If you really want to keep all mitzvot, you should consider converting to judaism. You could also consider only keeping the seven noahide laws and being a virtous goy.
24. #18
Torah ,   Israel   (12.27.07)
You have no business according to the torah to observe the sabbath, it is between Israel and G-d, not G-d and Gentiles.
25. The JNF is a violation of Torah...
Josh   (12.27.07)
..and likely a British Institution. The Torah commands us to take the land and own it. We Jews in Israel have been ripped off. We in Israel, dont own the land, we rent it from the JNF. Kind of like Taiwan being rented by the US. At some point in the future will we all become Chinese citizens? Its a scam. If the JNF was really about the "nation" it would sell the land to the Jews not rent it.
26. So what's the problem?
RedStarYeast ,   USA   (12.27.07)
Since the beginning of time, Jews have found ways of evading religious strictures of this sort. Forbidden to grow vegetables this year? "Sell" your farm to a goy! Can't work on the sabbath? Get a goy to stand in for you! This is a standard and universally-acceptable form of religious hypocrisy.
27. #24 Charles
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (12.27.07)
You are absolutely correct. Torah is between G-d and Israel. What you don't know, however, is I am Israeli. I am just not Y'hudi. If you would study scriptures properly you would discover how that is true. Try reading Hosea, it will enlighten you. You may ask me to prove I am Israeli, fine, just as soon as you prove you are Y'hudi. Show me your proof of lineage back Judah. You can't and you know it so don't be so judgmental. The Israeli government may accept your mamas name or grandmas name but that doesn't prove anything. I am your brother. Get over it. Anyone from the Northern Kingdom is a gentile. To be a Jew, you must be from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi and possibly Simeon. I know what the Rabbis teach and it isn't true Torah, it is tradition mixed with Torah. I am an old man. I have studied this all my life so don't think me ignorant.
28. #23 Ezra
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (12.27.07)
Ezra: Greeting fellow Son of Jacob! There is no such thing as Noachide law. It is an invention of the Rabbis. I will convert to Judaism immediately after they recognize and acknowledge their Moshiach Yeshua! Baruch HaShem Yah! Shalom Aleikhem dear brother!
29. Regarding the Charles reference
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (12.28.07)
My post at #27 was not to anyone named Charles. The computer inadvertently added this from memory. My apologies to anyone named Charles who may think it was to them.
30. WELL SAID #23
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