Israel could only ever suceed if the cause for which it's sons were fighting were just. The dispossession of another people is not a winnable objective by a citizen army in the 21st century, no matter how many F16s and nuclear missiles Israel has in its possession. Today's wars are fought for ideals, and occupation is not an ideal that decent people will fight for. The settlers are on their own on this one..

Who said that the war had to be victorious anyways? Some Liberal idiot who is hoping for peace every day of the week? The Arabs have never said they will stop fighting....even after you gave them a good butt whipping in 1982 , and in the second Lebanon War also. There is no timetable for war. Whoever fed you that garbage needs his head examined. There is no victory.....when confronted by idiots who don't plan on giving up. Yes,little victories....like the entire destruction of Lebanon....but alas, the war goes on. There can't be a victory because the war never ended. It is fluid like a stream. Always in motion, give and take, civilians and soldiers dying. Don't give up, and lose your freedoms, because someone writes a piece about problematic outcomes in a war that never ended to begin with. Mr. Shefer hasn't the patience to deal with this war. Therefore he shouldn't be leading the pack of people, who are unwilling to protect their country. You don't get to give up, and negotiate surrender, because you are impatient about a timeframe for a wars conclusion. Especially if it involves the loss of everyones freedom to a bunch of radical religious Arabs. The other thing the Author needs to know....people are going to die, and buildings are going to be blown up. This could go on for a very, very, long time. Jewish history is full of the very same scenario's. Who said you have to send in troops. Are the terrorists in Gaza coming in to attack? Drop bombs back on them. They will eventually get tired of rebuilding buildings over and over again. It might even create some work for them. Let the U.N. pay for it. They pay to bring in fertilizer to make bombs.

We have the worlds smallest "empire" roughly half the size of wales. Would you care to name a single war being fought for ideals? You have plenty of choices there have been around 30 in the last decade with approx 10-15 million dead.

there is no occupation as the bible says israel extends from the nile to the euphrates so if there is an occupation it is the arabs who occupy these areas of Israel and since right is might it is obvious that Israel will defeat the Muslim world this explains why the Muslim world from Pakistan to Morroco is self destructing .

Israel is NOT a small empire it extends from the nile to the Euphrates as stated in Deuteronomy

MOSHE

we currently occupy the whole of Sinai, large portion of cairo, All of Lebanon and Jordan and Most of Syria. When did this happen? You dont read the news for a day and the world changes....

Gaza and just bombing it back to the stone age instead of reoccupying it. How will Israel win? The Prophet Zephaniah says everyone on the coasts of Canaan who is a Philistine (Palestinian) will die after Ashkelon and Ashdod and Ekron are a desolation. Whether everybody there dies from a tsunami or earthquake or being bombed back to the Stone Age is anyone's guess. After that, Gaza will be a sheep pasture the Bible says.

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob belongs to them by a land grant from God, the Lord has made them fight for the land He gave them. There has not been much peace for the Jews in thousands of years, but there will be. A thousand years of peace is coming and they won't have to make weapons anymore. Even in the last battle at the end of that thousand years of peace which will be a thousand years after the Battle of Armageddon, God will destroy the rebels that again come from Magog. God will fight that battle that will end all battles and the Jews will have the names of the sons of Jacob and the names of the apostles of Yeshua immortalized on gates and cities, living in peace because the Lord has a covenant with both groups: an everlasting covenant from Yahweh with the Jews and an everlasting covenant with Yeshua for Messianic Jews and Gentiles.

It's great to hear these Zionist supporters spouting biblical nonsense. It didn't save our grandparents in Auschwitz and it won't save Israel today. The only thing that will ensure the survival of Israel for future generations is withdrawal fro the West Bank and making a just peace. All this crap talki from brave super-nationalists in the far flung outposts of the Zionist-diaspora, from people who wouldn't know an 'ul' from a 'meis' won't help anything but their inflated egos.

Moshe, one day real soon Gaza will be 100% erets Israel. Do you really want to polute it with pig excrament? I don't think HaShem would approve.

People of the 21st century have a Playstation 3 mindset. War is just another video game where you push the control buttons on your joystick and never get hurt. So instead of risking the lives of IDF soldiers, push the buttons and cut off all the electricity (used to manufacture Qassams), gas (used to transport Qassams to launch sites), and water until the war is over, won, and the enemy begs for mercy. You also push the buttons on the other joystick and launch back more mortars and cheap Qassam like rockets to make Gazans understand the terror they dish out. Keep it up until they release Shalit and beg for mercy. They are hurting now as shown by the articles on Hamas Swiss initiatives and talks of Hudna. WE MUST CRUSH HAMAS, IJ, PRC, and EL AQSA AND NOT SHOW ANY MERCY WHATSOEVER.

how dare you say the bible is nonsense .the IDF when properly deployed with the correct objectives and means will win wars though and Israel will expand to the Nile and Euphrates and beyond Have a nice day

#42 got it exactly right. The media and the peaceniks and the the anti-semites can't complain when you deliver back to the enemy exactly what they are sending you (only a little bit better). Notice how the Sunni's in Iraq finally had enough of al-Qaeda.