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Bush at Yad Vashem: US should have bombed Auschwitz
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Published: 11.01.08, 10:02
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1. bush
(01.11.08)
your road map of piece is sure to have the jews around the world build a second such museum and call it the road plan holocaust.
2. the time here ..coming. 6.15 evening..for the last line ...
ben ,   singapore   (01.11.08)
G-d Bless you too, Mr. George Bush, welcome to Israel.Now dont try to give Jerusalem to them. You Understand Ammerican Boy : -) ~ ben singapore
3. President Bush: Where will you praise G-d for the miracle
Joseph P. ,   JewRusalem   (01.11.08)
that you came out alive from the pit of poisonous snakes? A miracle it was nevertheless, even though, you brought along your own 1,500-strong Secret Service for your visit in Ramallah. Here's the full story: The US Secret Service virtually took over the Palestinian Authority’s seat of government in Ramallah, enforcing unheard-of security measures for President George W. Bush’s talks with Mahmoud Abbas and PM Salam Fayyad Thursday, Jan. 10. Compared with US-Israeli security cooperation for the president’s first day in Israel, the US force cut Palestinian security officials out of the loop. Armed with an amazing arsenal of hardware and electronics, they cordoned the Ramallah government center off with a one-kilometer deep “sterile zone” - closed even to the Palestinian presidential guard and the media, except for a pool. Abbas’ office furniture was replaced with American products. US officers barred entry to the Palestinian government center except for persons appearing on their list, albeit minus bodyguards. Only Abbas and Fayyad will be allowed small personal contingents of listed guards. Top-secret security measures were also enforced in Bethlehem ahead of the president’s visit to the Church of the Nativity. The US president politely refused Abbas’ personal request to lay a wreath at Yasser Arafat’s Ramallah mausoleum because of his timetable. Our military sources report that arrangements are in place on the West Bank to whisk the president out of harm’s way at zero notice if necessary. A security official told DEBKAfile: “This is Hamas’ and Jihad Islami’s big chance to get at a top American target and demonstrate their clout on the West Bank too. They are not alone. At least one faction of Abbas’ Fatah has also threatened the visit.” In the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, angry mobs burned Bush banners and US flags Wednesday, called on West Bank leaders to arrest the US president as a terrorist and war criminal responsible for murdering their “Iraqi brethren,” and denounced Abbas and Fayyad as traitors and American stooges. More fury is expected to be poured out at Friday prayers in Palestinian mosques.
4. As usual, Bush does take the advice
observer   (01.11.08)
Bush: why the American government under Roosevelt had decided against bombing the site? Rice : US did not think such a move would halt the extermination of the Jews. or didn't want to be seen as if they were fighting for the Jews. Bush: We should have bombed it. Had Bush taken the advice, he shouldn't have been in Iraq till the present time.
5. what a clown !!!
(01.11.08)
6. A NOBLE GESTURE MUCH APPRECIIATED
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (01.11.08)
TO VISIT YAD VASHEM,ANYBODY WITH A GOOD HEART SHOULD NOT FAIL TO BE VISIBLY MOVED.YAD VASHEM IS THE UNIFYING FACTOR OF ALL PEOPLE WHO NEVER WANT TO SEE THE WORLD PUT THEOUGH THESE TRAGEDIES EVER .WITH THIS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ALL THOSE THAT SEEK THE PRESIDENCY SHOULD MAKE A PILGRIMAGE ,AS DID PRESIDENT BUSH TODAY INORDER TO IDENTIFY WITH THE HEARTS AND SOULS OF THOSE THAT PERISHED,THIS,INORDER TO TEACH US JEW AND GENTILE ALIKE, THAT THE WE AS LIVING HEARTS AND SOULS ,CAN IDENTIFY MORE CLOSELY WITH ONE ANOTHER IN PEACE AND RESPECT.""GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS GEORGE W.BUSH""
7. Instead Bush is bombing Israel
Mike Jefferson ,   Washington, D.C.   (01.11.08)
Bush has his gall in going to Yad VaShem when he in fact is aiding and abetting another modern day holocaust against the Jewish people.
8. My friends father in SA Airforce wanted permission to bomb
Alan ,   SA   (01.11.08)
I knew him as well .He was the Commandant of a Union of South African Air Force Bomber (SAAF) Squadron operating out of Foggia near heel of Italy in WW2.The SAAF carried out missions in Poland,operating out of Foggia Italy !. SAAF Photorece photographed the lines waiting to be gassed in Auschwitz, BY MISTAKE, as their camera was left running when it should have been off by then. They were photog a Allied POW camp near Bunia and Monowitz .You can see their photos on the web.The USAF later also took similar photos to these .(These US photos also on web).Interestingly because SA was then the UNION OF SA ,the SAAF was mistakenly called the USAAF and some attributed these FIRST photos to the USAF. But it was definitely SAAF first His father got a few Jewish fellow flyers together and asked for permission to bomb Auschwitz -no permission was given Russia could have done so but didnt . Someone has suggestedthey didnt have big bombers like RAF and USAF. The Russians had smaller bombers which could easily have done something to damage Auschwitz-BUT THEY DIDNT .
9. Ending "occupation" wrong.
Steve ,   Fla.   (01.11.08)
10. #7, Mike: Jihadists are Bush's friends.
Steve ,   Fla.   (01.11.08)
11. Bomber Bush
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.11.08)
400 tons of bombs were dropped on a neighborhood south of Baghdad yesterday by the U.S. Air Force. The hypocrite has a big double standard when it comes to Israel. Is there anyone in Israel with the backbone to tell him to get lost ? TYhe hypocrite and phony peace maker Blessed his US Air Force to drop 400 tons on bombs in a neighborhood south of Baghdad to exterminate a few Islamic terrorists . Israel sholud follow his actions and not his words by carpet bombing the Gaza Hamas enclave . Collateral damage and the deaths of family of these terrorists is to be expected. It's time to stop letting the phony friend Bush restrain you and do what he does not want you to do, DEFEAT THE PALESTINIAN'S
12. OT
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Samaria   (01.11.08)
www.blablablaparty.org Isn't it strange that elected "leaders" have to be kept apart and separated from the people with huge and expensive security operations? Doesn't this fact alone illustrate the complete failure of the democratic system?
13. Thanks for saying what no other prez said until now!
Logic ,   Israel   (01.11.08)
14. Dont make another mistake that will cost jewish life
zionist forever   (01.11.08)
Its nice to know that you were moved Mr Bush and that you really do seem to belive that the US should have bombed Aushwitz. Now dont make allow the US to make another mistske dont try and ram a deal down Israels throght that will get you the legacy you want paid for by alot more jewish lives. Jerusalem belonngs to the jews and if your truly a religious man you would know that. Judea & Samaria is also jewish land and we should be showing more support for the Israel initiative not the Saudi one. If care about Israel then dont act like its enemy otherwise dont pretend you do.
15. #11 Marcel Most Americans agree with you.
(01.11.08)
Bush is the absolute worst US prez we've had the misfortune to live with. He'll look the bigger fool by this idiocy. Bush should be impeached along with Cheney for high crimes by allying themselves with the Saudis who've done nothing but harm to US.
16. he US, Britain, and Germany erred on Auschwitz
observer   (01.11.08)
but, only the Arabs had to pay for the damage caused by those three super powers. that's the bottom line.
17. You're a Liberal clown 15#
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.11.08)
You couldn't be brought to get rid of Clinton. Quit whining....Clinton was far worse.
18. Bush's Disconnect
NYC Girl   (01.11.08)
Inasmuch as Bush was moved to tears at Yad Vashem, why is he ignoring the fact that Mahmoud Abbas is on record as being a Holocaust denier?
19. #18 Good Point-Did Abbas give Bush a Copy of his PhD Thesis
Alan ,   SA   (01.11.08)
20. #16
Jane   (01.11.08)
The Arabs paid? By letting Jews live on Jewish land? I think the Arabs got off cheap. They never were made to pay reparations or property compensation to the Jews driven from Arab lands where they had lived for 2000 years.
21. 12: Ariel Sharon was not protected with a safety vest and
Rivkah   (01.11.08)
he survived a long time in public without one even though he has many enemies. Tell me, OS, have you been pardoned? I miss you. You and your Dad make me happy.
22. 11,15 Free thinking decent people concur
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (01.12.08)
Bush fails to see if the World was sick to the stomach when we learned of the Nazi action towards the jews, that we would be equally if not more repulsed with the jews for their disgustingly savagery against the Palestinians. The Palestinians had naught to do with the Nazis why should they pay the price. How in the name of all that we hold holy, could t such a twat with the mind span of a gnat be elected President of the US. The Angel of Death that he is dropped 40,000 bombs in 10mins in Baghdad yesterday without any consideration for Mother Earth whatever nor for the innocent Iraqi women and children. Bring it on la Hague!
23. #16, wow look how many Arabs read ynet!
Judtih, Haifa   (01.12.08)
but distorting the truth is useless. Ficticious people didn't pay for the Jewish holocaust, they payed only because of their stupidity and shortsightedness (i.e their refusal to aggree to the partition of "palestine" into 2 states) that, and only that is what they are paying for. Deal with it and move on or move out!.
24. # 20
Jeremy ,   UK   (01.12.08)
What kind of poo poo are you talking about? 2000 years ago? The only connection you have with the people that lived there 2000 years ago is, that you both were part of the human race. The Palestinians you displaced with the help of the west have always been there. In case you haven been unable to get my point, I'll take it down a few notches.....PALESTINIANS ARE SEMITIC, do you now get it?!
25. Not only England, then...
Julian ,   London   (01.12.08)
George Bush has a tendency to speak the truth. Perhaps that's why liberals don't like him, although I'm not so sure about the "truth" of a Palestinian people, let alone the viability of a Palestinian state. He certainly gave the IRA a run for their money in declaring Jerry Adams persona non grata in the Whitehouse - and the message got home, too, to the kneecappers on the Falls Road - and what happened? Peace. Because he named them the terrorists that they were and stopped American money feeding their bombing campaigns. The US were complicit in refusing to do anything about Auschwitz - as they were in doing nothing about Munich. It was not just Chamberlain who was an appeaser. Joseph Kennedy is on record as having supported this appeasement. Now we learn that Churchill was not alone with regard to the death camps. It is about time America took some of the blame. There has been far too much classic Brit bashing on this issue - and for too much of it on this website from American Jews. To listen to many of the criticisms over the years, one would have thought that Britain alone had been complicit in the holocaust itself - rather than most of the European powers (Denmark the honorable exception). I am sure Bush will be as unpopular as he always seems to be for speaking the truth. I for one think he isn't just a good friend of Israel, he's a good friend of the UK as well. God bless him as well as Israel.
26. Bombing Auschwitz WW11
Issie Shochat ,   Herzlia Israel   (01.12.08)
Reply to Allan (No: 8) Confirm. As a member of the S.A.A.F during the whole of the Italian Campaign, can corroborate that we a Spitfire fighter group attached to the RAF and American forces used to see the bombers of 21 and 24 squadron flying over us to bomb the Ploesti oifields in Romania and drop supplies to Polish guerilla fighters all around Auschwitch, both with minimum success. We were told that Auschwitch was not identified as a military target. Remember Senator Leslie Rubin, a great man, who was our squadron information officer expressing his anger and disgust at this deecision. While they were killing tens of thousands there daily.
27. The problem with bombing Auschwitz in WWII
Rivkah   (01.12.08)
is that the Jews who were allowed to live there as laborers would have died, too. There were so many prisoner camps and people were designated with the flip of a thumb to life or death. Were those who were allowed to live to be killed by allies? Those who lived mostly emigrated to Israel and other countries. At least they had a chance to do that because the camps were NOT bombed. There are STILL SHOAH VICTIMS ALIVE TODAY. One reads about them at least once a week in regard to reparations and payments they get from Israel and Germany. A LOT OF PEOPLE SURVIVED THE CAMPS. Is President Bush suggesting they should have been killed by Allies?
28. Why didn’t Bush bomb Ruanda?
Arek ,   PL   (01.12.08)
In Ruanda were almost so many people killed as in Auschwitz.
29. # 24 Jeremy
Julian ,   London   (01.12.08)
What sort of poo poo are YOU talking about? Of course the Arabs are "Semitic". They speak a "Semitic" language. The adjective "semitic" refers to a group of languages. Arabs and Jews are "Semitic" in the same way as Europeans are European because they speak languages derived from the Indo-European group of languages. Now, if you can't tell a Swede from a Greek, there's no hope - but I'll soldier on. The word "Arab" designates two things: the indigenous and different races of the "Arab world" - a designation similar to "European" - and is a geographic term which covers those lands that are the remnant of the Caliphate. It also refers, specifically, to those indigenous to the Arab Peninsula - what is now Saudi Arabia, one of the many different Semitic tribes of the Middle East. There is also nothing linguistically, racially, culturally or politically (until 1963 when Yasir Arafat renamed those Arabs who had been born in British Mandated Palestine "Palestinians") anything to distinguish those living in the Disputed Territories and called "Palestinians" from the surrounding "Arabs". In fact, anyone - Jew or Arab - born in the "province" of Palestine under the Ottomans or under British mandated rule is entitled to call themselves a "Palestinian". The Jews are a separate people. What now comprises modern Israel was only part of British Mandated historical "Palestine" - the historic homeland of a separate race, the Jews, who happen only to be "Semitic" because of their language, Hebrew, which is a sister language to Arabic in the Central Semitic group of languages of the Afro-Asiatic phylum. I hope that helps you in your confusion. And when you've finished your poo poo, could you please pull the chain quietly, because the rest of us here know what we're talking about and don't wish to be interrupted by yet another busy-body Anglo-Saxon who still thinks he has a right to decide what goes on in Israel, the historic homeland of a Semitic speaking people, the Jews.
30. No jew was killed by Russian bombs in Oswiecim
Damir ,   Russia   (01.12.08)
Our troops freed it laying their lives, remember? The bomb doesn't tell good guys from bad ones.
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