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B'Tselem: Does Diskin view kids as terrorists?
Ali Waked
Published: 14.01.08, 00:29
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1. YNET ..AGAIN THE VOICE OF ''PALESTINE''..
(01.14.08)
2. Children are WILLFULLY placed in firing line by Pals
Alan ,   SA   (01.14.08)
Firstly what is a "child"? Is it a fifteen /sixteen yearold with a rifle or a knife .. Is it one of those 10 year olds with a suicide belt at a border crossing? Is it a "human shield" Is it a resident of a dwelling where Pal Terros are hiding inside .Is it a child of 2 or 3 dressed up as a suicide bomber? In a theatre of War where NO uniforms are worn . Where none of the rules of Geneva Convention apply.Where a soldier like Shalit is kept without RED CROSS access-can Israel be accused of this or that irregularity.
3. True fault lays with "rights" groups as well as the PALS.
Scott   (01.14.08)
What a stupid pack of fools these "rights" groups are. What is going on is WAR, morons. Instead of slamming the Pals for their disgusting behaviour in using their OWN KIDS as soldiers - the stupid pinky fools only see fit to attack Israel for the fact that these young kids were killed as a result of their parents and elders putting them on the front line. Israel does not force its enemies to pick their combatants. These "rights" groups have exposed themselves as just another tool of the Pals. They know all too well that nobody in the West likes these kinds of casualties and play on it. But they do NOTHING to stop their gorgeous Pal 'friends' from committing attack after attack using their own kids. DISGRACEFUL.
4. Well Btselem's figures don't back the claims
Danny   (01.14.08)
According to Btselem, the number of people killed whilst participating in hostilities is 521, the number "not participating in hostilities WHEN killed" is 458. Note this latter category includes Hamas naval officiers, Hamas policemen, police officiers trying to "arrest" an undercover unit, people shooting at birds less than a kilometer from the Israel border and people killed while trying to infiltrate the border - so hardly "civilians". So even by the most generous of definitions of "civilian", most Palestinians killed were terrorists. I might think that Diskin puts Hamas military in the "terrorist" camp and not the "civilian" camp.
5. Here is Btselems list of "children" killed
Danny   (01.14.08)
http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Casualties_Data.asp?Category=13 Look at the last couple of years, Yihya Nabil Muhammad Abu Selmiyeh was killed when a house holding senior members of Hamas was bombed, Aya Muhammad Suleiman al-Astal was 100 m from the perimeter fence.
6. It goes without saying that Zakkut is clearly lying
Danny   (01.14.08)
but he lives in a world where just because a 17-year old is firing an assault rifle doesn't stop him being an "innocent child".
7. IDF Must Take Precautions to Protect Civilians
Jalal ,   Gaza   (01.14.08)
ok that was a jock go go IDF kill all of our civilians and children let some hamas to play more games
8. See how in-human you have become
Merle ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.14.08)
You will never justify killing a child. Never. Not in my name, never. For the god-drunk though, anything is permissable - even killing a child because he/she "got in the way".
9. YNet photo: "Ghalia family incident"
Aviva ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.14.08)
The "Gaza beach bomb" was exposed as a completely staged HOAX, just like the "Al Dura" shooting.
10. Not enough!
stuart ,   Ny,ny USA   (01.14.08)
WHY AREN'T THEY WORRIED ABOUT ISRAEL'S! THROW THEM INTO GAZA AND SEE WHAT THEIR PAL'S WOULD DO TO THEM!
11. 1000 in 2 years? NOT ENOUGH!
Lilya Baum ,   Sderot, ISRAEL   (01.14.08)
No wonder, "resistance" is improving! 1000 new terrorists is arab mommas' 2 weeks' delivery work. No, babies are not terrorists. It is only after they grow up & get indoctrinated they become ones. Diskin, ShaBaK, IDF, IAF: bad job! Need to improve aim & scope!
12. B'tselem and human rights = oxymoron!
Reality Check ,   BaGolan   (01.14.08)
13. RESPONSE TO #2
DANA CLARK ,   GOLD BEACH USA   (01.14.08)
YES, ISRAEL CAN BE ACCUSED OF THIS OR THAT IRREGULARITY BECAUSE THEY MUST INSURE THE SAFETY OF THOSE THAT THEY OCCUPY, THAT IS INTERNATIONAL LAW.
14. No tears shed for those bent on the destuction
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (01.14.08)
of the State of Israel and killing as many Jews as possible. It's the consequence of choice made by their parents and grandparents... There is a way to spare them from violence - change their Farfur to Mickey, teach them math & science; move them from the Land of Israel
15. 5th column !
Semper Fi! ,   San Diego, USA   (01.14.08)
The B'T selem so called organization is like the ACLU in the US, a traitor organization and actually in a country surrounded by foes and barbarians a real danger. Have you seen that trash protesting or doing anything regarding Sderot? No, like the ACLU they are only worrying for the well being of the enemy. Shame on those selfloathing traitors!
16. Too expensive war
Ron ,   LA   (01.14.08)
Every missile that hits a terrorist cost about $1000, therefor the cost is about $ 1 000 000. I wonder if there any way to make it cheaper. The problem is this` money can be spent better to help striking lecturers. If IDF would fire at Hamas getherings ( funerals, rallies, etc) it would be much more effective. I don't think Israel can afford to waist so much money on targeted killings.
17. Resistance? Whatever happened to the peace process?
JPS ,   Efrat   (01.14.08)
The quotes by Palestinian officials show the real truth here: the Palestinians really have abandoned the peace process and are reaping what they sow. The only talk from the Pals that one hears these days is from the toothless "leaders" like Abbas and Erekat. No other Palestinian leader talks about "peace". They all talk about "resistance" and "liberation". Oslo is dead and it appears to have been abandoned by not just the Israelis, but mosltly by the Palestinians. Of course there are kids who have been killed. Of course there are civilians who have been killed. Why? Because "resistance" means "armed resistance" means "war". The Palestinian leadership in Gaza does not want peace. And it appears that most of the Palestinian "leadership" in the field in the West Bank doesn't want it either.
18. Even if 4000 or 4 Million recruited Israel will prevail!
Alan ,   SA   (01.14.08)
19. B'Tselem are like small children
Ora ,   Jerusalem   (01.14.08)
Young children tend to have a black and white, idealist view of the world in which certain actions are always wrong. And that's very sweet, when they are young. In adults it's just frightening. Every sane adult realizes that 1) Innocents, including innocent children, will always be at risk in times of war and 2) War is still sometimes the lesser of two evils. In this case, it is not Israel who puts the children of Gaza at risk, but Israel must decide: risk the children of Gaza, or allow the children of Sderot to be slaughtered? B'Tselem would rather avoid such heavy moral decisions by sitting on the sidelines and complaining, as if they have a more moral solution to offer. B'Tselem, it's time to grow up.
20. you speak all like vampiers not like normal people
(01.14.08)
21. Well said #19
Kev ,   London   (01.14.08)
22. hey betselem
jman ,   jlm   (01.14.08)
can someone explain this to me, it's from Betselem's website. "Ahmad Ibrahim Suleiman 'Assa'sah 16 year-old resident of Jenin, killed on 29.03.2007 in Jenin, by gunfire. Did not participate in hostilities when killed. Additional information: Killed while throwing stones at an army jeep during an arrest operation. "
23. B'Tselem
Mel Fishman ,   Bowie, MD USA   (01.14.08)
The IDF more than any other army is cognizant of inocent civilians and children. The PAL. send missiles into school houses (S'Derot), suicide bomber into innocent eating places (Sbarro), family celebrations,etc without concern over children, civilians, etc. Nobody seems to care if Israelis are hurt only PAL children. They use children as shields and the IDF is reluctant in shooting at them. They really know how to use their lousey propaganda against Israel but they are thugs and do not care about the life of their own children. Any mother who is proud of their suicide bombers are either nuts or brainwashed.
24. #13, where have you been for the past two and a half years?
israeli ,   israel   (01.14.08)
Gaza is no longer occupied, controlled perhpas, but not occupied. It also has two governments and two PM's. Betselem asks if Diskin views kids as terrorists. I would like to ask Betselem if they view Israelis as humans at all, or as cardboard targets for Palestinian terrorists, gunmen and suicide bombers?
25. #2 mass production
observer   (01.14.08)
that's why they factories are working on the hour, 24 hr/day, to produce kids, so that they have the strongest defense.
26. #25
israeli ,   israel   (01.14.08)
plus unlimited reserves of suicide bombers.
27. #26 time is changing
observer   (01.14.08)
No, the Iraqi market absorbs all suicide bombers; acting or reserve alike.
28. #8 well said
(01.14.08)
29. more vented hatred on the verge of religious conflict
observer   (01.15.08)
A short while age, at least 7 Palestinians were confirmed murdered by Israel in Gaza. Bush's calling of a faction of Palestinian as terrorist, does not mean that that is the vision of Islamic world about that faction or the rest of the Palestinians.
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