If a Jew anywhere in the world gets a parking fine, I am sure there is some organisation slamming the traffic-warden as an anti-semite and the parking rules as latent anti-semitic. Don't you have better things to do than to feel victimized all the time? The magazine's explanation is perfectly correct and as a matter of fact: Israel is anything else but a society where women have equal rights. Would you praise Pakistan the same way, just because of late Benazir Bhutto? Ever looked into a nice Arsi neigborhood or Mea Shearim? Ever asked a woman if she get's the same salary as her co-workers? Shut up and stop making exhibitions of yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is totally inaccurate to the situation of the average woman in Israel. I agree that it would be like using a picture of the late Ms. Bhutto to represent the situation of women in Pakistan, although Talkback No.1's comments about certain ethnic groups in Israel were uncalled for and unnecessary.

Israeli women are most certainly not treated fairly. We are subordinated to the men. In the workforce, in the home, anywhere it matters. In Israel, men are more respected than women are, not only by the men, but by the women too. For some reason, women seem to feel the need to bash other women. Sad, but true. I don't know whether this is true in other cultures, it certainly is in Israel. Women are expected to work outside the home and in the home. At work, more is expected from women than from men, yet, typically, men's salaries are higher. Why do Jewish groups try to make it look as though Israeli women are better off????

If you can't tell the difference between the issue with Ms. Magazine and those inane examples you presented, you have no right to be in the discussion! I've sent two e-mails to Ms Magazine, one directly to them and one via the AJC.

That's not the point. The magazine refused the ad because it's about Israel! Whether it reflects the truth 'on the ground' was not part of their thinking when they made the decision to reject the ad. Even if Hillary becomes President - G-d forbid! - it won't break the glass ceiling that women in America still suffer from.

Ms. Magazine is an Anti-Semitic organization.

Personally I don't care a whit about Ms magazine. But your remark about the glass ceiling in the U.S. is simply wrong. Women have pretty much taken over veterinary medicine. More and more women are becoming doctors and lawyers. Many universities have female presidents. And the female contingent in Congress keeps growing. Woman are doing very well in the American workplace.

But actually: Tahnks for nothing and mind your own stupidity! Where is yur crystal ball that tells you something we don't know? Where do you see that the decision by Ms. magazine was made on Anti-Israeli or anti-semitic grounds???? You're just one sad example of what I was talking about. Someone takesthe jelly off your doughnut and you start crying anti-semitism. It is whingers like you who wear this very sharp weapon down, make it feel dull!!! Or are you implying, since I am a man I don't have the right to take part in the debate? Or talk about anti-semitsm, because it's the whingers and right-wingers and religious activists who think they have the monopoly on this accusation? Leave your fingers off the keyboard. It's better for all of us!

You must be an Ars to think that even exists. Or, with a name like Willy, maybe a Scottish janitor. Mea Sharim is a HAREDI NEIGHBORHOOD - arsim are just as unequal there as women.

For her Aids cures!!

Who do you think you are telling other people whether or not they may partake in a discussion????????? Who nominated you God????

How embarrassing, I guess I had forgotten that they were still publishing Ms magazine.

... you were at the editorial board meeting? Look, I saw the proposed ad, and it is incredibly misleading. Have you seen it? You can't turn everything into a whine. Well, of course you can, but it doesn't help when there are cases of real discrimination and antisemitism.

You can't see well. #1 stated arsim OR mea shearim, not OF mea shearim. BTW, I totally agree with #1's post.

As long as there are women, there will be feminism, and as long as there is feminism, there will be Ms magazine. Ms. was founded in the seventies during the feminism movement and speaks to and for all women. Unfortunately, even today, women need all the support we can get. It's a man's world because men have bigger muscles (read: rapes, wife-beating, wife murders). Sad but true. PS: have you a problem with the presence of a feminist magazine? Why are you embarrassed?????

WE HAVE BIGGER FISH TO FRY!

Have you ever asked how the women in your milieu -mothers, sisters, wifes, daughters - could enjoy Eden without converting to lesbianism? What pleasure would they get otherwise from the company (reward) of seventy Huris? Or maybe that question is not pertinent, your females are so inequal to the males that there is no place at all for them in Paradise?

Could you send me a link? I'd like to read the ad first hand.

That's not the point? The magazine refused the ad because it concerns Israel, you say? No Ma'am, and I quote: "…the magazine had published several major stories regarding Israeli women, including a recent profile of Foreign Minister Livini, as well as other stories covering the Israeli feminist movement and women leaders in Israel." Obviously, Ms. does print articles concerning Israel, at least concerning Israeli women (as it's a feminist magazine, they focus on women). The truth is that women in Israel are used, misused and abused by the men, and by some women too. Women can also be chauvinists, as most of us career women know. I mentioned in my previous post that women get paid less than the men in the workforce, but I didn't mention that men are more often promoted than women are, and fill most higher positions, in addition to earning higher salaries than women performing the same duties. I also didn't mention the rabbanut, the rabbis, the religious population in general in treating women as servants, baby machines and adornments. Are you not aware of the problem faced by agunot – abandoned women who are at the total mercy of their husbands? The problem isn't only relating to religion, the secular have no problem demeaning women neither, do you not read the papers? Have you not heard of all the rapes taking place in Israel, domestic abuse, wife murders? Ms., in case you are not familiar with the magazine, was created by women, for women, and focuses on issues that personally concern women, including male chauvinism in the home and in the workplace, and documents the progress made by society to better accept women in less submissive roles, in all aspects. My mother used to subscribe to Ms. for years while I was a teen and I am very familiar with it. Ms. turned down the article because IT IS A LIE. It in no way depicts the life of the average Israeli women. I don't know whether the editors of Ms. Magazine are anti-semites and whether or not they have in the past turned down articles due to their pro-Israel content, however, with respect to this article, no anti-semitism was shown. Jews should calm down a little and stop screaming "anti-semitism" everytime someone doesn't agree with their point of view. Besides, obviously, not all Jews agree on everything.

That's not the point? The magazine refused the ad because it concerns Israel, you say? No Ma'am, and I quote: "…the magazine had published several major stories regarding Israeli women, including a recent profile of Foreign Minister Livini, as well as other stories covering the Israeli feminist movement and women leaders in Israel." Obviously, Ms. does print articles concerning Israel, at least concerning Israeli women (as it's a feminist magazine, they focus on women). The truth is that women in Israel are used, misused and abused by the men, and by some women too. Women can also be chauvinists, as most of us career women know. I mentioned in my previous post that women get paid less than the men in the workforce, but I didn't mention that men are more often promoted than women are, and fill most higher positions, in addition to earning higher salaries than women performing the same duties. I also didn't mention the rabbanut, the rabbis, the religious population in general in treating women as servants, baby machines and adornments. Are you not aware of the problem faced by agunot – abandoned women who are at the total mercy of their husbands? The problem isn't only relating to religion, the secular have no problem demeaning women neither, do you not read the papers? Have you not heard of all the rapes taking place in Israel, domestic abuse, wife murders?

Ms., in case you are not familiar with the magazine, was created by women, for women, and focuses on issues that personally concern women, including male chauvinism in the home and in the workplace, and documents the progress made by society to better accept women in less submissive roles, in all aspects. My mother used to subscribe to Ms. for years while I was a teen and I am very familiar with it. Ms. turned down the article because IT IS A LIE. It in no way depicts the life of the average Israeli women. I don't know whether the editors of Ms. Magazine are anti-semites and whether or not they have in the past turned down articles due to their pro-Israel content, however, with respect to this article, no anti-semitism was shown. Jews should calm down a little and stop screaming "anti-semitism" everytime someone doesn't agree with their point of view. Besides, obviously, not all Jews agree on everything.

Chaya, I'm with you most of the time, but I have to disagree with you on this one. This is, after all, a magazine with equality for women as its agenda and that means for all women everywhere. I get a bit huffy every time there is an article in Ynet with regard to women having to ride in the back of some bus etc. That's a little ironic, too, because, when I first came to the US - Birmingham, Alabama of all places - I got into a verbal fight with a bus driver, because I wanted to sit in the back of the bus, so I could look out the big window back there and see the city. Well, at that time, the back of the bus was for "colored folks." Since there was not a single "colored folk" on this particular bus and the rest of the riders got a little impatient with our diatribe and because the driver refused to put the bus in gear until I had moved to the front, it was decided that I could sit back there until a colored person showed up. Not one ever did. So, when I hear "back of the bus" or its equivalent with respect to anyone, the bristles on my neck will stand up just a little. Until and unless that is a matter of choice, it's discrimination, whether in the US, Israel or anywhere else. Just, however, because one disagrees with certain aspects of Israeli life, it doesn't make one anti-Semitic or anti-Israel. Just as I didn't understand why the US "colored folks" of the early '60's had put up so long with the garbage heaped on them, I don't understand some of the things women allow to be pulled on them even now. If nothing else, let's claw, scratch, bite, get headaches :-) and run our mouths to let someone know if and that we don't like something. As for glass ceilings, they're not that hard to demolish, if you have a very hard head, take the time to figure out how the game is played and use your brain. Knowledge and perseverance have no gender. Ok, a little diviousness now and then doesn't hurt, either :-) Although my hubby seems to have taken refuge behind that "until death us do part" clause, I probably was a pretty good wife. Only since he's been gone have I learned that I'm better as a widow, with no hesitation to tell the whole world to go to hell when it gets on my nerves. Oh, and it's nice to know that we agree on what's-her-face Hildebeast.

WHAT? Come again when you're sober....

IF MS. MAGAZINE FAILURE TO PUT IN THIER MAGAZINE ANYTHING ABOUT ISRAEL THEN CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS.BOYCOTT THEM, DON'T PUT ADS IN THIER MAGAZINE

Read the article before you post irrelevant messages. It's a good thing you don't have a gun in your hands!

My question is not a High Society rethorical question: it's a Basic one. So, if you are so vacuous, go play with other kids in the yard and Mazal Tov for your growing up one day.