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Jewish groups condemn attacks on Obama
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 16.01.08, 08:54
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31. Obama
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (01.16.08)
There is no doubt that Obama is very bad for Israel. He is also very bad for America and the rest of the world. If you believe and know anything about prophecy then you will also know that that is the very reason that he will probably be elected. That being said, it may be good for all the Israeli talkbackers to prepare by doing something about who will this president be dealing with in Israel once he comes to power. Will it be Olmert? Only G-d knows for sure but if I were an Israeli, I would be taking to the streets to try and bring about a change in power there rather than concentrating on who will rule in America. There is no one running in this election that I can support. Is it right to choose the lesser of the evils? I don't think so because I don't believe that G-d wants His people to choose any evil at all. So what can we do? Pray a whole lot!
32. VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR ISRAEL
Semper Fi! ,   San Diego, USA   (01.16.08)
#23 you're absolutely right on! Those phonies are shameless and cowards. They'll do everything to run for cover. #25 it's pitiful that someone who allegedly supports Israel thinks like you. Either you're some sort of retard or you don't know cra..p Just a question: how Obama will save Sderot for being attacked. Stupidity will be for a jew to vote for him
33. If the news that Obama has a Nation of Islam advisor,
Rivkah   (01.16.08)
from the Louis Farakan camp, this is very serious since the Nation of Islam is ten per cent of American Moslems and has a death penalty for anyone who wants to leave the Nation of Islam organization. The book, "The Religion that is Raping America" is about radical Nation of Islam members and is pretty scary.
34. Obama
Yair ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (01.16.08)
For Jews you all seem to be a bit rediculous and stupid...not the brightest of the bunch to fall into this right wing attack at a democratic half-white/black candidate. CNN did a full story on this allegation in early 2007. Barrack Obama attended an Islamic center that had students from many other religious denominations attending the school at the time. He attended this place in Indonesia for 2 years, then studied at a Catholic school. There is no 'Madrassa' conspiracy and lest you forget his father ran out on him and his mother so I think he might be a little less sympathetic towards the Muslim community. He was a civil rights lawyer and while in senate promoted legislation to have the government to ban nuclear terrorism and WMD construction. He seems a pretty safe candidate to me, I actually bothered to spend a few hours to read up on him and not just look at the headlines.
35. Obama part 2
Yair ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (01.16.08)
Also he mentions in his book (I am sure none of the nay-sayers bothered to read) and his mother and family member concur, that his father was an ardent athiest by the time his parents met. His step-father, "didn't see religion as a useful tool", he had a multi-cultural upbringing that entitled him to be more aware of his past and his roots and explore more in depth critical thinking about religion and life. He explains in his book that his baptism, "was one of the most proud days of my life", And to the person who mentioned that he used crack, well that is a lie. He publically admited to using cocaine and marijuana during his teen years. At least he has the integrity to admit these infractions and has moved on. He is someone that is not scared to mention his past and be candid about his troubles. A real hero for overcomming such obstacles and being so successful in his life.
36. Obama part 3
Yair ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (01.16.08)
He also supported legislation for abortion rights for women. He also advocates equal rights for homosexual individuals in the army, employment and adoption and backs legislation for civil unions between homosexual couples. He admits that he is against "gay marriage" because he is a CHRISTIAN, however he sees no conflict with endorsing civil unions that protect and secures rights of homosexual couples on the same level that a marriage secures benefits and rigts for heterosexual couples.
37. Thank You Yair - You truly live up to your name
Thomas   (01.16.08)
38. Redmike , Prof ? not of geography
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.16.08)
You taught maybe at the University of Louvain la Neuve , but certainly not geography . Louvain la Neuve is NOT Dutch , but Belgian . You are right when you :-{ by saying near the gare du Midi , Brussels , capital of Belgium and Europe . I know what people live there . Jack Bauer is of Dutch origin , lived in the USA i think , now he told us he is living down unther , Australia for people not knowing geography . Sans rancune , Mike ?
39. Yair
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (01.16.08)
So Yair, you believe because he believes in murdering innocent babies (Torah violation), supporting homosexuals which is an abomination to G-d and (Torah violation.) It is ok to use Cocaine as long as it isn't crack (Torah viloation, occult behavior). Has an Islamist background (people sworn to destroy Israel), That he is just the man for the job. And you live in Israel? You actually believe this is good for Israel? Please, if you are ever near me, please identify yourself so I can get out of the way of the lightening. Read all the little articles you wish Yair, but I live in America and I know very well what this man is. Believe me, you don't want him to be president of the most powerful nation in the world.
40. Leftist, Self-Hating Jews love Obama
David ,   Raleigh, USA   (01.16.08)
The Leftist, Liberal Self-hating Jews and Jewish organizations are tripping over themselves to support Obama. They ignore the following facts: 1. Obama is supported by the American Muslim and Arab communities. 2. Obama has said:"Nobody has suffered more than the Palestinians" 3. Obama wants to end the Patriot Act because it's discriminatory to Muslim and Arab Americans. 3 Obama's church follows a Black supremacist and Marxist philosophy known as the "Black value system" and supports divestment from Israel. 4.Obama's pastor, Jeremiah Wright, Jr. traveled to Libya with Farrakhan in 1984 to meet Qaddafi.
41. # 40
Thomas   (01.17.08)
First of all, there is no such thing as a self-hating Jew. Everyone I ever heard of referred to as that is always someone who is completely in love with themselves. Now as for your bogus anti-Obama tirade: 1. "Obama is supported by the American Muslim and Arab communities." - so was Bush in 2000. 2. "Obama has said:"Nobody has suffered more than the Palestinians"' - Look up the whole quote and you'll see he blamed that suffering on PA corruption. 3."Obama wants to end the Patriot Act because it's discriminatory to Muslim and Arab Americans. " - Did he say that or as a lawyer is he against the Patriot Act because it gives the government the right to conduct secret trials, which can include dissidents. 3 (again). "Obama's church follows a Black supremacist and Marxist philosophy known as the "Black value system" and supports divestment from Israel. " What is wrong with a church wanting to instill pride and good values in its community? Would you complain if your rabbi called on you to sing Hatkiva or contribute more to Jewish causes? And how many Israelis have called for divestment from Israel? Plenty. 4. "Obama's pastor, Jeremiah Wright, Jr. traveled to Libya with Farrakhan in 1984 to meet Qaddafi." - You can look this up yourself but Obama has already condemned Farrakhan's anti-semitism.
42. #38 mike. Gotcha...
(01.17.08)
I was in here reading. Dutch?? Louvain la Neuve?? Damm it, it's a belgium University... mike probably lives in south tel aviv and smoked some before writing. :-)
43. 28 & 38
jack bauer   (01.17.08)
charles, bud, mike didnt claim that it was in holland. he just said he liked dutch people. btw if dutch people want to make fun of someone they call him "belgian" the flemish language is the same underneath, but the acccent is still tricky to follow, for me anyhow but charles was right in that I am dutch I had higher education in NY, FL, CA I have lived in 20+ countries and now I live in Australia you cant try and tell me I dont know geography, because I live it everyday charles has a good memory, although we dont always agree and pat each other on the back
44. a few questions for yair 34-36
jack bauer ,   reality check   (01.17.08)
1.maybe you could tell us what is taught in a madrasa, since you seem to know about it. And maybe you could tell me what other religions were allowed to send their kids there. Also could you please find out who paid the school fees? Was it the local mosque? exactly 2. you say his black moslem daddy ran out on him and his white mommy, so he may be less sympathetic then I think.... They why, pray tell, does he hide his mommy in the shadows, ignore his white family that raised him, and talk about the black struggle? One thing I know about moslems is, that nothing is ever their fault. they always blame others, mostly jews. 3. he was a lawyer? laywers are scum. 4. he wanted to ban nuclear terrorism? yair are you the one who smoked crack? do ya think osama signed up with obama to that? Great I think everyone except muzzies want to "ban" terror 5. if his daddy was an ardent athiest? why did he send his kid to a madrasa? 6. his step father saw no use in religion as a useful tool? obama certainly does....photo ops with a bible, talking like a preacher 7. yair, do you know what crack is? maybe you can explain to me what it is made of? 8. he admitted it publically? was it by chance in his book, carefully worded, so that it couldnt be used against him in a campaign? That way people like you could call him a hero wtf a hero? a hero is someone who died sacrificing his life to save his mates and his country while fighting in a war caused be stupid leftnik leaders 9. he advocates abortion, gay military, gay adoption, gay civil unions...... ALL are UNCHRISTIAN although obama and yair never had trouble distorting fact to suit their slant on things. yair, please write an article about it, that way sane people can tear it to shreds try and use flowery wordplay to counter these questions.... it may nip some in the butt maybe you could also address why moslems are allowed to lie to "infidels" as long as it suits islam
45. So what is the factual record?
Steve ,   USA   (01.17.08)
B"H Where is this so-called factual record for each US candidate published clearly?
46. Rock O' Rama is BAD!
Efi ,   Sof Ha Olam   (01.17.08)
This guy is bad! He is bad for USA and Israel and Europe. I dont want this guy in charge of my affairs. The church website that some here mentioned doesnt work. Its FARKACKT!! DONT VOTE FOR THIS LOSER!!
47. AND HERE WE SEE POSTERS REPEATING THE SAME LIES
David ,   Los Angeles   (01.17.08)
48. "Semper Fi" already outed himself as a racist liar
David ,   Los Angeles   (01.17.08)
Why should we take anything he says about Obama seriously? He talked about "wetbacks" in one of his other postings, so he is clearly a racist. And a semi-literate coward, who uses the motto of the U.S. Marines to spout his lies. The ADL never condemned the Nation of Islam? That's just a blatant lie. Jews vote 80%+ for Democrats, so don't pretend that ignorant illiterate racist cowards like you represent "us."
49. What about Olmert?
James ,   CC   (01.17.08)
Obama might not even get the nomination. Ehud Olmert is a bigger threat to Israel. His party pulled out of Gaza and looked what happened. One cannot blame UFO's or Obama for that.
50. #41 Bravo!!!
Semper Fi! ,   San Diego, USA   (01.17.08)
As O'Reilly says in Fox News, Thomas you're a kool-aid drinker. I won't argue anymore but I just can answer you wiith some names: How many of us will vote for the worst US prez ever (proved)? Jimmy Carter the antisemite. How many of us want the NAACP, Farakhan and the nation of islam thugs empowered and running the country? How many of us want Chavez, Castro and the pr..ick ahmadenajad being the best friends of the USA? How many of us want the islamists, the commies, the scum in general, the unions, the wetbacks running this country . This is only for the USA, what about Israel, would you last with this sort of Prez? If you answered yes, so vote democrat...Period and don't cry or complain later...
51. REad
md4life ,   Maryland, USA   (01.17.08)
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml
52. #41
David ,   Raleigh U.S.A   (01.17.08)
Your defense of Obama's church and his suspect record is laughable, sad and symptomatic of leftist, White and Jewish guilt. Why didn't Obama mention the people of Darfur? They are suffering genocide at the hands of the Muslim rulers of Sudan. If a church had a "White value system" and a presidential candidate was a member of this church, the liberal media wouldn't hear the end of it. Thus, all criticism of Obama's affiliation with a racist church is valid.
53. The ostrich is a fitting symbol for the American Jew
Ran   (01.17.08)
They are blind, confused, stupid. They refuse to acknowledge reality.
54. Pretending a lie
Josh   (01.17.08)
There is not one prophecy that matches Jesus as the messiah and he himself even said he wasn't. So most Christians who go to church pretend it is about the words of the new testament, when what the church teaches is different from what is written there. To add to it, even if a Christian reads the words of the new testament, they do not read the Torah (Old Testament) which would show them the new testament is a constructive lie that quotes section of torah that are past tense as if they are prophecies. Thus it pretends to be a fullfilment of the Messiah. If a Christian did read the old testament, they would have to pretend they didn't see the truth and continue to call themselves blind followers. So one may be a pretending to be a pretender pretending to be a pretender in Judeo-Christian thought. Since we as Jews are pretend to be doing Torah but are actually doing chet Rabbinic additions, we are pretending too. So if Obama is a mulsim pretending to be a Christian. I think I have it figured out. He is a pretender pretending to be a pretender of a pretender pretending to be a pretender who has a pretend false G-d who people pretend to be the messiah. He who was in fact a Jew pretending to follow the pretenders who pretend to do Torah. What is the big deal? Its all pretending. Moses would say "I told you so." Return to the true words of Torah Obama. That would make you hated by all religions that add to Torah but at least you would be straight with G-d. Even the Rabbis would call you a pretend Jew because you don't accept their chet additions of Torah bPeh.
55. Jack Bauer , down unther
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.17.08)
Listen , when i say that i love the Dutch people and in the same sentence that i was in Louvain la neuve there is something very unclear . What's the relation ? for me he was confused . If I say that i loved the Dutch people , and that i was often in their country , there is a relation . How is it to live "ondersteboven" ? LOL
56. 38 - Jack said "holland and belgium rolled over? "
redmike ,   tel aviv and london   (01.17.08)
and I responded "I like the Dutch very much and taught at the University of Louvain La Neuve a few years ago". Mike
57. #42 - Jack said, "holland and belgium rolled over?".
redmike ,   tel aviv and london   (01.17.08)
So I said, "I like the Dutch very much and taught at the University of Louvain La Neuve a few years ago". Seems like you want to attack me? And the article and talkback is about Obama and not about me. Mike
58. #42 - if you want to know who I am ..
redmike ,   tel aviv and london   (01.17.08)
redmike = Michael Redbourn TA - LA - London http://redbourn.notlong.com Kind of petty attacking me and people that live in South Tel Aviv Perhaps you smoked before posting? Mike
59. Obama
Leo Solomon ,   Nahariya,Israel   (01.17.08)
Of all the chuches, of all the denominations available to choose from- Obama chooses an exclusionist ,black power ,anti zionist, collaborator with Farrakham (leader of the islamo fascist Nation of Islam )as his mentor and the church of which he is the pastor to convert (prior to his excursion into politics)to Christianity.One has to wonder why.
60. # 5 Name one who isn't please.
Petra ,   usa   (01.17.08)
Just to set the record strait.
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