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East Jerusalem: Hundreds protest Gaza siege
Ali Waked
Published: 21.01.08, 20:21
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1. Why don't they take their protest to Sderot?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (01.21.08)
Supporting terrorism is a crime, deport them to Gaza so they can be with friends.
2. Protest shmotest - stop the Qassams
JPS ,   Efrat   (01.21.08)
Hello Arab neighbors! Tell your Hamas cousins to stop the illegal attacks on Israeli civilians and the siege will be lifted. We're getting tired of whining, criminal Palestinians who think they can shoot rockets at us and get free trade in return.
3. Seems to be working
Zardoz ,   USA   (01.21.08)
I've been fighting on a thread with some radicals over this issue. I think if there's one thing that can convince Gazans to stop the missile attacks w/o killing them, this is it! I've been called every name in the book. Bombing Gaza doesn't seem to get the message across anymore. Please help me with my thread! http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19120.htm
4. Interesting
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Samaria   (01.21.08)
Interesting that these palestinists reserve their solidarity only to the ill and elderly of Azza. How's about the Sderot elderly who can't run for cover? Ah, they are Jews. Interesting.
5. Protest??
Natan   (01.21.08)
Has any one seen a protest against the missile attacks??? Have you seen marches in Gaza or in any other place against missile attcks?? Ofcourse not. When Jews suffer every one is quiet, but when the Palis suffer every one is complaining.
6. Do they protest the daily Qassams too?
LEE ,   NY, USA   (01.21.08)
As long as the residents of Sderot don't live in peace, let them keep lighting candles.
7. How come the cops and border patrol did
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.21.08)
not beat them like they do to Jews? I guess the cowards are afraid of the enemy.Or they think that the Jews are the enemy?
8. Sderot dramatization
smile ,   UK   (01.21.08)
Can somebody give statistical data on How many Palestinians and How many Israeli's have been killed for the past 2 years. May be this will help impartial people to work out for themselves who is the aggressor and who is the victim. The Palestinians are called terrorists simply because the have no tanks or apache's. If somebody occupies Israel and take over all their weapons, can some civilized israeli lecture us on how they will resist the occupation in a civlized, tactful fashion.
9. #8 Smile
Zardoz ,   USA   (01.21.08)
While I won't argue that the death and damage is disproportional, I would point out that Israel tends tries to shoot at unarmed combatants, while Hamas shoots indiscriminately at civilians. And don't forget about the waves of suicide bombs some years back, clearly aimed at civilians, publicly sanctioned by Hamas.
10. Only hundreds protested
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (01.21.08)
Most E. Jerusalem Arabs know where life is better for them!
11. #5 so true!!!
(01.21.08)
12. to number 9
smile ,   UK   (01.21.08)
still you did not answer my question. How can a civilized nation get rid of occupation?
13. ZARDOZ .. why do you bother with them?
GZLives   (01.21.08)
14. #12 Smile
Zardoz ,   USA   (01.21.08)
I would say that's the whole point to the current exercise of cutting off fuel to Gaza. The first thing is that Hamas must be eliminated or brought to the table. That would create conditions for negotiations on the basis of the Saudi plan, IMHO.
15. Smile # 12
Dan ,   Tel Aviv   (01.21.08)
By proving that they are civilized and capable of governing themselves. That would be a start. Reminder - no part of Gaza is currently occupied, so exactly what occupation are you suggesting that they are trying to throw off?
16. PROVOCATION THAT IS ACCEPTABLE
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (01.21.08)
THIS IS A DEMONSTRATION OF "LOYALTY"TO AN ARAB CAUSE THAT HAS NO SYMPATHY FOR THE IDF AND ITS SUCCESS IN ITS OPERATIONS IN GAZA.ISRAELI CITIZENS HAVE SUFFERED ENORMOUSLY IN ALLOWING 'DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLE TO OUTSTRECH ITSELF AS EAST JERUSALEMITES TAKE TO THE STREETS AND WAVE PROVOCATIVE PALESTINIAN FLAGS IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.PEOPLE WILL TAAKE THE LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS TO DEAL WITH THOSE WHO FLOUT ISRAELI LAW AND SUPPORT PROSCRIBED ORGANISATIONS.IF KACH SHOULD DEMONSTRATE IN SIMILIAR FASHION WHERE WOULD WE BE ?...SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, DO YOU NOT THINK SO?
17. hundreds is nothing! is ynet short of news?
redmiike ,   TA - LA - London   (01.21.08)
18. #13 GZLives
Zardoz ,   USA   (01.21.08)
Actually, I entered into the thread to have a meaningful discussion, and got viciously attacked from all sides. I stayed with it, and in the end I think they all looked pretty stupid. Mind you, it wasn't very hard.
19. to number 12
Eyal ,   Israel   (01.21.08)
there are millions of things that I can say to refute the term "occupation" but that's beside the point. the palestinians could've taken advantage of the pull-out and improve gaza's ever growing plight. Instead they chose to enhance their weapons arsenal and deliberately target Israeli civilians, and that's certainly not the first (sadly, not the last either) time they miss an opportunity to embetter their situation... Israel is always forced to retaliate. If they try for once the peaceful way, they will be surprised to find more than a willing partner on the other side. PS. I'm not sure the term "civilized", in reference to the palestinians, is appropriate. They have mostly Hamas to thank for that.
20. #8, well that's pretty easy
Danny   (01.21.08)
1) They could target soldiers. They have in the past and there are plenty round the strip. Also our soldiers wear uniforms and live on bases. Instead they fire at civilians day in day out. 2) They could "resist" from land that is actually occupied which Gaza isn't. 3) This idea that somehow they'd fight better if they had apaches or tanks is nonsense. Iraq had the equivalent in Gulf War One and they only used them on civilians. When the arabs - including the Palestinians - have had aircraft and/or tanks it has made no difference and in fact has made it easier for the IDF to defeat them. 4) They are called terrorists because they evade any number of soldiers and military targets to hit civilians. They do this because they know it has a greater effect on society. 5) You ask for figures. The raw death rates don't say much because the Palestinians simply aren't able to kill that many Israelis - not for want of trying. But the civilian portion of Israeli deaths is around the 70% mark. The civilian portion of the Palestinian deaths is between 30%-40%. Remember that IDF soldiers are usually nowhere near civilians when they are killed and wear distinctive uniforms and most Palestinian civilians have been near fighting when killed. I think this shows who targets civilians and who targets "military" quite clearly.
21. to # 15
Smile ,   UK   (01.21.08)
If you think Gaza is free, then May the God of Israel bless all the israelis with the same freedom the Gazans have.
22. #8 - smile, chew on this...
Joe ,   Los Angeles, CA   (01.21.08)
1. The Palestinians are called terrorists because they target non-combatants, not because of their guerilla-like tactics. Because Israelis specifically target combatants, and the non-Israeli combatants use non-combatants as human shields causing the non-combatants get killed in the process, this is still not terror on the side of the Israelis. It is yet another act of terror by non-Israelis against non-combatants. 2. False analogy- Israel is an actual country. Israel also was an actual country at one time in the past. 'Palestine' was never a country, nor is it one currently. The word Palestine, until its meaning was twisted by Arab nationalists, always referred to a geographical region, much like the word Siberia refers to Eastern Russia. Because the West Bank are, from the perpective of international law, terra nullus, there is no occupation because no other country claims sovreignty over those regions. If, however, you claim Palestine is still occupied, despite the factlessness of this assertion, you must also admit that Jordan, the country created to be a home for Palestinian Arabs, is occupying Palestine- 80% of it to be exact. 3. You wrongly suppose that occupation is something that needs to be resisted. Did the Germans resist American/French/British/Soviet occupation? Did the Japanese resist American occupation? Sum and total, smile, Palestinians are terrorists, the West Bank and Gaza are not 'occupied', the Palestinians had a country called Jordan specially created for them by the British and the proper way to resist 'occupation' (which there is none in th case of Israel vis-a-vis the Palestinians) is to follow the political and economic model the 'occupier' has set up as a means of rebuilding the nation under 'occupation' so as to ensure peace, economic stability and a destruction of the elements that led to the 'occupation' in the first place.
23. bubble gum
Ypip ,   Canada   (01.22.08)
24. Smile the UK terrorist
David ,   Houston   (01.22.08)
So “resistance” is OK eh? Just like your brothers resistance on 7/7 in London? I suppose they had no civilized tactful way to resist either. The simple fact is the Arabs choose violence because that is what they do. Look at Iraq, Lebanon, Paris, Algeria, anywhere you have Arabs “resisting” you see violence. This is their primitive version of politics. The only Arab nations that have some peace are brutal military dictatorships. In all 22 Arab controlled nations this is true. Alternatively, if you look at England when London was attacked, the response, which included the firebombing of German, resulted in vastly more German’s killed than English. If Israel where to follow that example the missile attacks from Gaza would cease.
25. to smile
mebosa ritchie ,   glasgow,scotland   (01.22.08)
i agree with you. end the occupation;the arab occupation of jewish land in jerusalem,judea and the shomron if the arabs want to live like other arabs eg in syria or egypt,then they should be encouraged stronly to move there. israel including judea and samaria is ALL jewish land
26. to#21 Smile
Freejay ,   Israel   (01.22.08)
Do you still use your subway system? Did you smile when those terrorists let those bombs off? Thats right, you don't have terrorists either! By the way, the only occupiers are the arabs that invaded and stole my ancestors land. Israel is and always has been a jewish land, with the history to prove it, whilst your muslim brotherss are the actual occupiers that came here mainly in the 60's thanks to the creep Arafat. The area used to be called jewish Palastine before that!
27. Qassam missile industry in Gaza
I. Barr ,   Bloomfield Hills   (01.22.08)
The media grossly downplays Qassam missiles menace which not only ruined the lives of thousands of Israeli civilians but also killed and maimed hundreds. It caused property damage in the millions of dollars and demanded creation of shelters in kindergarten and schools. About 10,000 Qassam missiles rained over Israel since 2001. It was hoped that disengagement from Gaza in 2005 will stop firing these missiles, but it did not. 2-3 Qassams were fired daily but the number increased and recently 40 such Qassams were fired in one day. There are three Qassam models: The older 1 and 2 have a steel sleeve which weighs 12 and 70 pounds while Qassam 3 weighs 198 pounds. All have a load of explosives 1.1, 13.2, and 22 pounds respectively. They need ignition systems, detonators and delivery systems. Production of 10,000 such missiles requires hundreds of tons of steel, explosives (mostly made of fertilizers) and accessories. In short, there is a need for a factory, a production line. Yes, there is also need for a lot of money to buy the steel, explosives to manufacture the Qassams. This factory must be a multi million operation. An industry. While Palestinians and others complain about human rights of the Gazans there is enough electricity for the missile factory and enough money to buy explosives. Moreover, Hamas tightly controls Gaza and firing of Qassam missiles is done by their orders. They use surrogates terrorist organizations to divide responsibility and shift the blame from Hamas to others. In the same time the Israeli nurseries in Gaza that brought 125 million dollars annually to the strip are destroyed. Israel should deny the Palestinians any supplies. Gazan can go to Hamas and demand Hamas terror to stop. As brutal as it sounds Israel has to stop the continuous punishment by Hamas terror. 50% of Israeli in Sderot have post traumatic syndromes, are maimed and killed. The other option is for IDF to attack Gaza. If the Palestinians think that this is a better option let them tell us. If Gazans can produce missiles why can't they use the fertilizers to reactivate the profitable nurseries?
28. people, dont respond to smile, he is an idiot named achmad
(01.22.08)
29. a nation rising , dont you see the lights ?
atilla karagözoğlu ,   Yeretz Ishmael   (01.22.08)
30. #4 so right
Joseph ,   israel   (01.22.08)
Little Jewish girls were held in prison without education for months because they "entered a closed military zone" for which Arabs or Leftists are released without interrogation. In contrast, YNET reports that three police were shot and stoned by Arabs in the Galilee. In response, no arrests were made and the Yassam did nothing. Welcome to Olmertland
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