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Obama rejects Palestinian right of return
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 28.01.08, 20:24
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61. #5: It's OK For You To Say That, You're In Canada
emanon ,   USA   (01.29.08)
Your kids won't be subject to the draft Guliani wants to reinstate. If Guliani's elected, your population will grow, just like the Viet Nam era.
62. #10: Oxymoron="stable safe palestinian state"
emanon ,   USA   (01.29.08)
63. Israel Lobby
Allen Hertz ,   Shenzhen, China   (01.29.08)
#37, With respect to rejecting the so-called Palestinian right of return to Israel, Senator Obama is to be commended for making a clear public policy pronouncement that can be democratically judged by American voters, who tend to strongly support the State of Israel, as reputable public opinion polling has demonstrated time and again.
64. 10
zionist forever   (01.29.08)
The right of return idea was dreamed up by the Arab Legue who want Israel destroyed and know demographics could destroy israel as a jewish state so arab states were forbiden to give citizenship to palestians on the grounds that they must give up the right of return. Give them citizenship of a country the right of return FANTASY isnt going to matter to them anymore but keep them without citizenship of their country or Israel and they wont drop this rediculous idea of right of return. Israel exists and it is a jewish state GET USED TO IT
65. This is not your election
Edmond ,   LA, USA   (01.29.08)
You racist Jews stay out of our election. This is not your business. We are not going to choose a President to serve Israel. This time around it will be a President of United States of America. You gonna have to face you own concequences and fight your own battles.
66. #65: Turn About IS Fair Play
emanon ,   USA   (01.29.08)
I mean isn't Bush trying to govern Israel like the 51st state? Bush is making all these pronouncements that Israel must do this or Israel must do that, push Olmert around and basically mess up things in Israel . . . not that the Israeli government is incapable of messing things up on their own. Seems only fair to me that Israelis should comment on US elections and voice their opinions on who should live i the White House.
67. To Emanon
Edmond ,   LA, USA   (01.30.08)
You are right Emenon, every Jew who is a US citizen has every right to vote and voice their opinion but don’t you think that they should be concerned not only with Israel but also the well being of USA? In all reality a well run US is a bigger advantage to Israel then a President who is religiously motivated and will do anything for Israel but becomes so blind that it ends up hurting Israel and US. What you hear is propaganda. Everything Bush has done in ME has been for Israel (Iraq War for example). I can not blame Jews in Israel wanting a Neo-con Christian Zionist evangelical backed President, hell I guess I would too if I was a Jew, but there has to be a balance for Christ sake. Listen, this Israeli/Palestinian conflict is the epicenter of all the hate and discontent in ME toward us, never mind the shocking treatment of Pals by IDF. Yes you have the right to defend yourselves but come on. I am all for the right of Israel to exist and I will back you as much as I can but I will be damned to send my son to fight and die just because Israel is nervous. If we don’t fix our Government, Israel will eventually pay the price and it will be a big price. Obama may not be the best US president for Israel but I think he would be the only hope for peace in your region without driving the Jews to the sea or turning every Arab into an extremist. BTW, do Israelis really want the two state solution? would you accept a Pal State?? Because every time there is talks of peace Israel retaliates on Hamas or runs the tanks and bulldozers. You know it might be too late anyway. I know Arabs don't want the two state solution anymore. You know what they want but that won't work for you. Time is running out on Israel. Verry soon the only peace that would be acceptable to them would be Israels destruction which means endless conflict and many dead Arabs, Jews and Americans.
68. Anybody But Hillary !!!
blonde shiksa   (01.30.08)
To David #18: Vote for Hillary? A "safe bet"??!!!! Are you mad? Hillary is the one who sat there silent while Suha Arafat said Israel was poisoning the water Palestinians drink. Hillary is the one who blamed her husband's serial philandering on a "vast, right-wing conspiracy." Hillary is the one who thinks she knows it all; thus, she will only appoint cabinet members and aides who will rubberstamp her opinions rather than choosing aides who will honestly tell her what they think and whose opinions she will gravely ponder. A vote for Hillary is a recipe for disaster. If she does get elected, I hope she can push through a healthcare plan since we Americans are going to need it to afford to medicate ourselves against the anxiety a Clinton presidency will induce. America has had 20 years of Bushes and Clintons. Let's not make it 28.
69. To Michael U in S.F. #28
blonde shiksa   (01.30.08)
I think you meant "dodo" instead of "DooDoo." But come to think of it, "doo doo" is very appropriate when describing Clinton, don't you think? (And that's being polite.)
70. To Edmond in LA
emanon ,   USA   (01.30.08)
You covered a lot of territory in your TB. I'll try to respond to what I can in the order I feel is important. No, I do not favor a two state solution. There is only one state, Israel. The Terrorstinians want a one state solution as well. THEIR state, minus Israel. That's the crux of the matter. The only thing Bush has done has been to further the causes of Bush. He has no interest in preserving Israel, only appeasing oil producing countries. I object to this "all hat, no horse" cowboy thinking he can ride in with guns blazing, like some mythical Texas Ranger, and solve everything with firepower. Iraq was waged because Bush had made up his mind and did not want to be confused with facts. I called his invasion of Iraq BEFORE he was elected. It was no prophetic vision or fortune telling o f any type, it was listening to his campaign speeches. So far, I'm wrong about his invading Iran as well, bur not by much. My real sticking point is no outside entity has any business dictating terms to either side in the Israel / Terrorstinian conflict. The only lasting solution MUST come from these two groups themselves, otherwise it will not be sustainable. Yes, a third party may offer their country as neutral ground for negotiations, and other than offering hospitality they have no business interfering. Think of two kids. If they are fighting and Momma, or Poppa, take your choice, separates these two kids, there is peace until the parent turns their back. If these two kids reach an agreement, they will stop squabbaling . . . at lest on the issue they were originally fighting over. Back to point one. If Israel and the Terrorstinians can reach an agreement and it involves a two state solution, no, I would not be happy, but I could support it BECAUSE *THEY* REACHED THE AGREEMENT BY THEMSELVES. The big problem is WHO IS ISRAEL TO NEGOTIATE WITH? Right now, there are at least two Terrorstinian factions claim to represent their people. When eaither side is not killing Jews they are killing each other. That has been their way since time immemorial. The last man standing is the leader. Succession through assasination has always been their way. Loook at their history, Read T. E. Lawrence. It's all there. As to the US . . . That's our problem, and no, I do not want a "Neo-con Christian Zionist evangelical" for president. That idea scares me. There are a couple of candidates, never mind who I think they are, that's my private business, wo quite frankly scare me with their vews on religion. If the wrong person is elected to the White House, it could be real unpopular to be Jewish in the US for quite some time. Anyway, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
71. One state solution is a death sentence to the stateless
Edmond Beglarian ,   LA, USA   (01.30.08)
Emanon, I am all for Israel and Palestine to reach some type of a lasting peace together and in fact we are doing you no justice by continually providing Israel with large sums of money in the form of aid packages, this is not to mention all the military aid and behind the doors loans with no interest and hey, if you don’t want to pay it back is OK. I think Israel economy is outstanding by its own without US funding. America should do as Ron Paul suggests which is a total disengagement from Israel, but the problem I see is that there are too many things to come to an agreement on between the two of you. You have the right of return, the settlements, Jerusalem, Actual borders, compensations, recognition of Israel’s right to exist and the Israel's reluctance to allow the establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, prisoners… You need a US president who truly and honestly will work towards reaching agreements on these issues. Hamas was democratically elected and despite their hard stand on the destruction of Israel they can be made to lower that stand when hope is given to Palestinian people. Somebody said one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Both Israel and Palestine will have to make some painful compromises and I don’t think that can be achieved without an honest mediator.
72. Obama and Israel
Elana ,   Seattle, USA   (02.15.08)
Obama suggests that the USA can dialogue with Iran. Since when has that ever worked.? This is an example of a western mindset that somehow the entire world is capable and willing to dialogue, argue and reach a consensus without resorting to killing off the enemy. This is never going to work as long as Iran is committed to the destruction of the State of Israel and supportive of terrorists in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Al Queda. This is why I'm voting for Hillary.
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