Though I am in favor of freedom of speech, I find it time to put a fine on using the holocaust as a comparison. In a few cases it may be right ( ruanda, darfur) but in 99 % of the cases it is only used for lack of arguments. Jews that use the comparison not only insult the memory of their own people, but show the self hatred of victims who didnot learn to cope with grief. This abuse is just as bad as the jews who always refer to the holocaust as an excuse for inexcusable behaviour.

or even christians, for that matter? how about going a step further and ask why there are so few jews in the middle east, or why the number of christians significantly decrease every year? who in the middle east is striving for a racially pure people of a single religion? it's definitely not the jews. it's definitely not the christians. it's definitely not israel. there's your fascism.

What the Arabs absorbed from the modern era in the way of political ideas came from the two worst forms of totalitarian ideology - fascism & Soviet communism. That they have an affinity for totalitarian ideology rather than liberal democracy is not surprising given the unfortunate resemblance to their own form of religious totalitarianism. All of the various Arab nationalist movements such as Baathism in Iraq & Syria were linked to Nazism. The authoritarian nature of Islamic societies makes such ideologies even more appealing. Islamists use anti-Semitism in the same way as the Nazis or the Soviet Bolsheviks. Of course today, anti-Semitism can be made "respectable" by camouflaging it as "anti-Zionism" & just as some Jews could justify Stalin's horrendous actions by some misplaced loyalty to "socialist" ideals, so today's leftists hide behind liberal rhetoric to justify their disloyalty to their own people. That they hold such beliefs is an extreme example of intellectual dishonesty, devoid of any objectivity or fairness. The fact that such a comparison can be made is evidence of a hatefulness that defies reason.

At last an article without selfdellusional speech and thought. Just clear observations and to the fact stating points. One does not get that to see to often on Ynet, but it is defenitly refreshing. Hope there is more to follow soon.

Great article! Furthermore, Al-Husseini was a "member of honor" of the Waffen-SS and after the war was charged by the Nuremberg war tribunal for being a major Nazi war criminal. He escaped to Egypt and helped other Nazi war criminals to settle down in Egypt. Later he rejected the "UN partition plan" while the Israelis accepted and therefore could found their state of Israel. Finally, Al-Husseini, a convinced antisemite and Nazi, was the uncle of Yasser Arafat...

Arabs compare often Israel to the Nazis. In that way they try to hide their own Nazis methods at home and the seamy side of life in their countries. It is not new : the U.S.A. and Israel are the targets of the venomous hate of the Arabs and Islam. Let’s not mistake, let’s not forget who are the enemies of freedom and of our civilization, who are the heirs of Hitler. To observe the reality just open : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/01/nazi-face-of-jihad.html

A question Mike , would you like to live in an Arab country ? No of course . Any sane Jew , Christian or non muslim would do it . So don't ask "how many Jews serve in Arab governments" . There is a Jewish counsellor of Morroco's king , i think , but that's a different situation there .

ok, morocco that's one. maybe iran has one or two minor ministers that are jewish. but why are there so few christians/jews remaining in the middle east where traditionally there have always been large communities? they have been and are being pushed out, even in lebanon where christians are constitutionally guaranteed their place and representation. so from north africa to indonesia (how many billion people?) is my point - tiny israel has way more arabs in governmental positions than all of the number of jews in governments in the entire muslim world. besides, do the people of morocco feel the same way as their lone king about jews (would the people elect a jew)? not hardly.

THE HOLOCAUST’S GREATEST CONTRIBUTION TO HUMANITY IS THAT IT HAS ESTABLISHED GUIDELINES, AND EXAMPLES OF TREACHERY THAT SHOULD NEVER AGAIN BE EMULATED ! IT'S A YARD STICK & A COMPARATIVE MEASURE FOR NOTATION IN IT'S WHOLE AS WELL AS IN IT'S DETAIL'S; THAT SHOULD BE EVOKED, CITED & SPOKE ABOUT VOCIFEROUSLY AS A BULWARK TO A REPETITION ! A "COMPARISON " IS NOT A ZERO SUM GAME, IN IT'S ENTIRETY NOR ANY ELEMENTAL ASPECTS THEREOF ! THOSE OF YOU THAT PONTIFICATE AS SURROGATES FOR SURVIVORS ARE ENGAGING IN A HEINOUS, FECKLESS, MORAL TRANSGRESSION OF EXTRAORDINARY PROPORTION ! YOU CORRUPT THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE HOLOCAUST, WHAT IT'S SIGNIFICANCE TO HUMANITY IS AS WELL AS IT'S CAPACITY TO SERVE AS A IMMUTABLE VEHICLE FOR DETERRENCE ! WHY, BECAUSE IT SERVES AS A DEFENSIVE STRATEGY; SO AS NOT TO REQUIRE SUBSTANTIVE FOCUSING ON IT’S REALITY, THAT MIGHT DICTATE SOME AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ON YOUR PART ? WOULD PRO ACTIVENESS DISRUPT YOUR “COMFORT ZONE”, CHILL THE COCOON REALITY THAT YOU RESIDE IN ? TO YOU AND YOUR ILK; ARE YOU TO HAVE AUTHENTIC CONCERN, THERE’S A REASON MY EMAIL IS ATTACHED ! I HAVE A LOT TO SAY REGARDING THE MATTER BUT, DOUBT THIS WILL EVEN GET PUBLISHED !

Can you provide tangible proof for the instances when Jews have used Holocaust as an "excuse" for "inexcusable behavior"? And what may that "inexcusable behavior" be? Please provide a nice table with dates, who said what and which "inexcusable behavior" was supposed to "excuse"? And PROVE that table - not "hearsay" but recordings of the actual events. But don't sweat too much! You have no proof - it is only a slogan - just like any other empty slogans used by many Islam or Left-inspired racists around the world. And yes, Darfour and Rwanda were crimes of inhuman proportions - just as in East Timor - BTW all perpetrated by "non-fascist" Muslims. Holocaust was of epic proportions however and not only Jews died there although they were the overwhelming majority. Holocaust was a result of a campaign of hatred against Jews conducted by Europe for tens of generations, culminating with the degeneration of Europe into one big furnace, burning people and souls alive. This is what Islam is doing now and people like you are tempted to reduce the magnitude and significance of the Holocaust by linking it to imagnary Israel's "inexcusable behavior". I would want to see if your dear country will be able to maintain its democratic systme, like Israel does, while being demonized, and brutally attacked in wars of attrition and with terror atrocities since its independence. You can neither preach to us about "freedom of speech", "democracy" and "holocaust", nor about what is "inexcusable behavior" in the Middle East while you sip a comfortable coup of coffee as our citizens are being bombarded with rockets on a daily basis, from the "Jews-free Gaza". Shame on you!

Funny how deep the hatred of Jews runs throughout the world. That one would even suggest the people who were trampled and almost exterminated by fascism would somehow employ it themselves is beyond laughable, its sick. Israel is almost always acting in a defensive manner. You can say the casualty count is much higher on the Palestinian side, but that is ONLY because of a couple of circumstances. 1) They Palestinians are poor, not even helped by their arab bretheren who own 99% of the land in the Peninsula. 2) They are technologically out-gunned. Does this stop them from sending suicide bombers, kasaam rockets, and kidnapping soldiers? Will the Palestinians even be realistically able to convince their people to stop the violence? The propaganda, hate-filled childrens t.v. shows, and pronounced hatred of Jews in their textbooks has contaminated entire generations of Palestinians. There is little hope for peace. They commit attacks on purpose, to garner the military reaction from Israel, to watch their use of force, and then film the pain and misery it causes the Palestinians. Old tactic that's never lost its effectiveness on a drooling Main-stream-Media. Never mind who started it; look how many kids the Jews killed after we fired a rocket from this school and they fired back. I don' buy their B.S., stay strong Israel.

"Arab leaders are again leading their people to a dead end. " But today there's a big difference. Your leaders are leading your people to a dead end too.

During a heated Knesset debate Sunday, MK Zeev claimed that the proposed legislation was aimed at assisting homosexuals and lesbians who want to start a family. He said that if it was up to him he would put gays in rehabilitation centers "along with drug addicts and alcoholics". Zeev went as far as comparing the gay movement to a "plague that may destroy Jewish Israel", adding that this "plague" should be dealt with "just as the Health Ministry is dealing with bird flu." NOW WHO IS THE REAL FASCIST? Israel doesn't allow gay marriages and multiple partnership, this is real fascism. Israel doesn't allow representitive of Jews for Jesus in the Knesset is real fascism. Israel that that doesn't accept Catholic Jews as real Jews is fascist. And the last one. I challange you to publish this post and not sensor it.

Jews taking the holocaust as excuse for their actions ? After WWII there were actions of vengeance against murderers and nazi collaborators , but those who were liquidated had done more than enough to deserve this fate .

Let me just remind you of the great assitance your countryfolk gave the germans during the rounding up of Dutch jewry.You may call it whatever you want,but it sure looks like you are enjoying the jew -free sociaty your parents worked so hard to acheive. If you will stay away from the coffee shops(second hand smoke can get you stoned you know...) You may just have the clear brain to see that what you wrote on here is pure ,smug,typical European antisemitizm. Enjoy your herring,nowadays it comes with 1 million muslims and a few headless movie directors.

Rome June 28, 1943 His Excellency The Minister of Foreign Affairs for Hungary Your Excellency: You no doubt know of the struggle between the Arabs and Jews of Palestine, what it has been and what it is, a long and bloody fight, brought about by the desire of the Jews to create a national home, a Jewish State in the Near East, with the help and protection of England and the United States. In fact, behind it lies the hope which the Jews have never relinquished, namely, the domination of the whole world through this Important, strategic center, Palestine. In effect their program has, among other purposes, always aimed at the encouragement of Jewish migration to Palestine and the other countries of the Near East. However, the war, as well as the understanding which the members of the Three-Power Pact have of the responsibility of the Jews for its outbreak and finally their evil intentions towards these countries which protected them until now - all these are reasons for placing them under such vigilant control as will definitely stop their emigration to Palestine or elsewhere. Lately I have been informed of the uninterrupted efforts made by the English and the Jews to obtain permission for the Jews living in your country to leave for Palestine via Bulgaria and Turkey. I have also learned that these negotiations were successful since some of the Jews of Hungary have had the satisfaction of emigrating to Palestine via Bulgaria and Turkey and that a group of these Jews arrived In Palestine towards the end of last March. The Jewish Agency, which supervises the execution of the Jewish program, has published a bulletin which contains important information on the current negotiations between the English Government and the governments of other interested states to send the Jews of Balkan countries to Palestine. The Jewish Agency quoted, among other things, its receipt of a sufficient number of immigration certificates for 900 Jewish children to be transported from Hungary, accompanied by 100 adults. To authorize these Jews to leave your country under the above circumstances and in this way, would by no means solve the Jewish problem and would certainly not protect your country against their evil influence - far from it! - for this escape would make it possible for them to communicate and combine freely with their racial brethren in enemy countries in order to strengthen their position and to exert a more dangerous influence on the outcome of the war, especially since, as a consequence of their long stay in your country they are necessarily in a position to know many of your secrets and also about your war effort. All this comes on top of the terrible damage done to the friendly Arab nation which has taken its place at your side in this war and which cherishes for your country the most sincere feelings and the very best wishes. This is the reason why I ask your Excellency to permit me to draw your attention to the necessity of preventing the Jews from leaving your country for Palestine and if there are reasons which make their removal necessary, it would be indispensable and infinitely preferable to send them to other countries where they would find themselves under active control, for example, in Poland, in order thereby to protect oneself from their menace and avoid the consequent damages Yours, etc.

could not have said it better,

I agree that in the same breath arab MKs criticize Israeli actions they should also criticize the indiscriminate Kassam firing on Sderot. I agree many Israeli-Arab leaders are hypocrites and are leading Israeli-Arabs in the wrong direction. I agree attending the Habash funeral did not help the community in any way. However, Israeli Jews should also recognize that these Arab Mks represent only a segment of the community and not the whole community, in fact many Arab MK did not care to go. Moreover many arabs vote for Zionist parties and see members of Merets, Labor, Kadima, etc.. as their representative, so please do not use the actions of some Arab Mks as an excuse to incite against the who diverse Israeli-Arab community. Please do not use the actions as an excuse to deny that there is institutionalized discrimination against Israeli-Arabs that goes back to the days the country was established.

and mourn terrorist leaders like Arafat, Habash, and visit cruel, and terror funding, tyrants like Bashar Assad.

Fact #1 - A quote and proposed legislation by an ultra rightist that most likely won't see the light of day doesn't make a country fascist. Making this legislation binding law and then brutally enforcing it- like Nazi Germany, Saudi Arabia or the Palestinian Authority- makes it fascist. Fact #2 - Israel considers gay marriages, provided they were performed outside of the country, legally binding. For every stumbling block the Rabbinate places in front of the average Israeli, the government opens up a door for its citizens to get around the Rabbinate. This is what agenda-pushers like you fail to realize. Fact #3 - A member of any religion can acquire Israeli citizenship and serve as a MK. Fact #4 - Catholic Jews (assuming you're talking about converts to Catholicism with Jewish ancestry, not former Catholics who converted to Judaism) are not Jews. They are Christians. An ideological divide was created almost 2000 years ago when a small group of Jews claimed Jesus was Mashiach and for a Jew to make such a claim is to set one's self on the non-Jewish side of that ideological divide. Based upon Rambam's 13 Principles, the idea that Mashiach has not come yet is almost as integral to Judaism as belief in the unity of G-d. Furthermore, in Jewish law, the requirements for being considered Jewish are either being a convert to Judaism or born to a Jewish mother and not practicing a religion other than Judaism. Dictating to another people who should or should not be a member of that people; doesn't this sound like the Nuremberg Laws all over again? And you have the audacity to call us fascist...

is one of the anti Israelis writing on Israeli sites .

He seems to be a cross between some characters we know and love here on the YNet talkbacks. He's got the Neturei Karta attitude of 'Chanalau Tova' and, with his 'Catholic Jew' nonsense, he sounds like so many of the missionizers on the site posing as 'Messianic Jews'. All in all, charles, I really don't care if I'm wasting my time responding to people like these. Like I've mentioned a couple times before, for as many people who, like 'Yaakov', post nonsense, there are many more who think it but are on the fence as regards what to believe. Nonsense like his needs to be debunked and I'm more than happy to oblige...

The Israel-Arab MKs have abandoned their constituency, which are the Israeli Arabs that vote for them. They choose to try to represent all Arabs and bash Israel at every chance they can instead of representing their people in the government.

In fact I am a Catholic convert to Humanistic Jewdaism ( I am admirer of Pope Joulious the Fifth who was secretly Jewish) In fact I think the only solution is one Muslim state, where we Catholic-Jews and others can be given equal rights. As to gays marriage. Yes, there is discrimination in Israel. I can not be regarded as a Jew, because I am Catholic believer in Jehoshua. I am also not recognized by Rabbinate as being a married man, because my husband is Palestinian. I hope you can publish this post, and may be somebody can help me.