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'Winograd report will hold up a mirror to Israel's face'
Aviram Zino
Published: 29.01.08, 21:54
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1. The diabolical plan of the religious and the right wing
leon gork ,   jerusalem Israel   (01.30.08)
It should be obvious to every thinking individual whether Israeli or outsider that Israel achieved its greatest military victory ever in the 2nd Lebanese war. After 30 years of constant, unprovoked harrasment by the Hizbullah of Lebanon, Israel, under the leadership of Ehud Olmert has attained peace and tranquility on its northern border. The Hizbullah finally got what they deserved; a thorough pounding of bombs from Israel. Finally Israel retaliated against attack in a manner that left no doubt in the minds of the Arabs that Israel will seriously damage any country that seeks to disturb the peace. This war was a victory because now the Arabs know that the game is up. Israel wants to live in peace and Ehud Olmert is leading the country to a new era of peace. Olmert is the first Prime Minister Israel's had who set out to put a stop once and for all to Arab aggression. So far, 18 months since then peace reigns supreme on our northern border. Hotels are full of tourists. Foreign investors are pouring money into the Galilee. Unemployment is at an all time low. Olmert has started serious negotiations to establish a peace agreement with the Palestinians. Gaza with all their social problems and kasam rockets has been jettisoned into Egypt. For the first time in many weeks not a single kasam has been fired into Israel. The country is peaceful, prosperous and happy. In the midst of this utopia that Omert has brought us so called experts conclude that the war in Lebanon was a failure and that Olmert is to blame. Tragically the people shouting loudest for Olmert's resignation are the parents of the soldiers killed in battle especially the parents of the 11 soldiers killed in battle on the last day of the war. If the war was a defeat they could feel that their loss was in vain and this would increase their sadness. But the war was a great victory and their loss was not in vain. Their sons were the heroes who gave us that victory. The nation will be eternally grateful to them. Unfortunately some power greedy politicians have decided to present the war as a defeat so that they can oust Olmert and take over. They've enlisted generals and great experts to prove that the war was defeat. They are ready to turn victory into defeat to achieve political power. The plot is as mad and irrational as the plot to murder Rabin. Just as that crazy plot had a religious motive so this crazy plot also has a religious motive. Only the aim to please the God of Israel can motivate such a disastrous scheme. The people who have this crazy aim, the national religious party of Israel, Mizrahi, are being used by power hungry politicians, like Netanyahu whose megalomania will make him even use the devil to satisfy his thirst for power. The plan is simple, consisting of two parts: 1) Make the war appear a defeat. 2) Goad the bereaved families to seek revenge for the unnecessary loss of their son's lives.
2. To #1, You mam are a silly twit for such poofness
#1 is a Kadima Voter ,   Eress Yisrael   (01.30.08)
Blaming the religious and the mizrahi for the problems of moronic PC nonsense that prayed by athiest scum. THE WAR WASNT WON SINCE NASRALLAH AND HIZBALLAH STILL SURVIVE. Until, their heads are on a spike or dead six feet under, we have not won the battle, stalemate yes, but not won. So please, will you shut it up.
3. Mirrors have everything backwards
Josh   (01.30.08)
Israeli society will never see a good face if the think they can get away with not doing Torah and making additions to it. They will need a mirror where left is right and right is left so they can admire themselves. At least the Christians are misled because they think a messiah man-g-d told them to. Not that this is valid, or that no one will be embarrassed when standing before the heavenly cout. One must say at least its a better excuse than ours. Israel is worse in that they are are misled by regular old men called rabbies who don't even claim to be prophets. Our only excuse is that we as a nation think Torah is not understandable unless a Rabbi goes and takes it down from heaven for us. Even then we don't do it. What an insult to Moses and G-d. Lets see that hold up in court. Return to Torah and for G-d's sake stop looking in the mirror that's backwards and start doing things right. The Winograd report simply discloses that Isarel is drunk from the cup of bewilderment. One could recognize this if one ever read Torah. How else can one explain a "people of the book" not doing anything by the book. It is the hand of G-d. War strategies are well documented a fool could follow them, yet Israel messed it up because across the board. Many Israelis refuse to do it by the book. The irony is very thick. Don't get me wrong, I do not want to put out the fires burdening those who chose death under Torah guidelines. G-d is just.
4. To n#1
Michel ,   Jerusalem   (01.30.08)
The miracle of Israel is that all the positive facts which happened these last months have happened despite tricky Olmert and his friends !
5. to number 1 - kadima talkbacks?
adam   (01.30.08)
wasnt there another article on ynet talking about how kadima has employed talkbackers to defend olmert? aha - we dont need your facts - go look outside - your people look happy? the winds of change are comming.
6. Winograd will Change Nothing
Rube Vogel ,   Jerusalem   (01.30.08)
All this hype - and in the end, the report won't matter at all. All the media has been focused on whether or not the report puts the blame on Olmert. The public won't care enough to even read the important conclusions of this report and in Israel, when the public and media don't care, the leadership cares even less.
7. # 3 Josh and his mirror dosent reflect the truth
Simon ,   TA Israel   (01.30.08)
Josh in fantasy land really has lost the plot, Its religion that causes the wars in the first place! Sorry Joshey hate to spoil your fun but for some people the Torah is a book of fairy tales that has no relevance on modern day life what so ever. Religion is what causes hatred and intollernce towards your fellow human beings. You cant even love your own neighbours my friend.
8. One sided love
Daniel ,   Israel   (02.01.08)
'Winograd report will hold up a mirror to Israel's face' Absolutely wrong, this cannot be. One shortcoming cannot wipe out Israel's image. Whatever happened is absolutely contributed by two people Amir Peres and Olmert.
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