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US Jews in Clinton's pocket?
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 01.02.08, 23:05
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31. Why this is rubbish!
David M. ,   Toronto, Canada   (02.02.08)
I'm a Jew in Toronto and I get really sick and tired of this anti-Semitic propaganda about which politician(s) has the Jewish vote! Just how many Jews do you think there are in the U.S.? Jews make up 2% of the total population of the U.S. and Jews make up even less than 2% of Canada! The population of the U.S. is approx. 300 hundred million, Canada's population is only 10% that of the U.S.; so there's about 6 million Jews in the U.S., OK. Of that about 50% are old enough to vote, that's 3 million and if you're really pushing it, no more than 60% will actually vote! Wow--that's a whopping 1.8 million Jews in total! This is what gets me hot under the collar when all these stupid press reporters comment on the Jewish vote! And even worse are those that say the Jewish lobby has all this political power! Stop concentrated on us! Stop trying to kiss our ass to buy our vote! And stop your over proportional sound bites that deal with the Jewish voters! Get a life!!!
32. Since when ?
(02.02.08)
Since when the US Jews are in the pocket of the President , normaly the President no matter who is in the pocket of the American Jewish loby .... old dirty game .
33. GOOD FOR HILLARY!!!
Petra ,   usa   (02.02.08)
34. Up till Post 29, only about three or so voted Obama
Alan ,   SA   (02.02.08)
35. Clinton was bad for Israel
Yoram ,   N.Y.   (02.02.08)
If she will contimue the policy of Bill - we are in for extended damages.
36. Could be a dream ticket?
Ypip ,   Canada   (02.02.08)
Would they choose each other for VP? What hope for the Republicans in such a contest? If Clinton becomes president, Obama may very well become vice president. I don't think Clinton would want the position however. Hard to say either way.
37. total taxpayer money to Israel
Zeal ,   Zionist America   (02.02.08)
About one hundred sixty four billion, seven hundred ninety one million, five hundred seven thousand two hundred dollars ($164,791,507,200) and counting. I bet AIPAC and other donors will invest HUGE for Philo-Israelites like Clinton. But don't forget what happened when the other Clinton crossed the line...
38. Now we know who not to vote for - Clinton & McCain
george m ,   nashville usa   (02.02.08)
They work for those who brought the wars.
39. 38..u hate jews so much that u read their posts...
truth strikes again   (02.03.08)
ur a fool who does not recognize his own enemy just like Chamberland. Well the sad part is that the crocidile will eat u too. I wonder if you will recognize him as your enemy while he is swallowing...opps too late... open ur eyes and see...ur enemy is not the jews
40. Not this US Jew!
PatriotUSA ,   Redmond, Oregon   (02.03.08)
I need to say that I am one US Jew that WILL NOT EVER vote for any clinton, ever. Same goes for obama. hilary is a stinking feminazi and obama has ties to through his church in Chicago that goes straight to a real bigot, the jerk farrakan. That Jews in the US are being duped by both of these politicians who are looking out only for themselves.
41. The neocons' last stand
RedStarYeast ,   USA   (02.03.08)
"McCain's foreign policy team includes hawkish and neoconservative members like David Frum, Daniel Pipes, Michael Rubin, Norman Podhoretz and Martin Kramer." These are all members of the same crew that brought us the Iraq War, fueled by their lies: over one million dead, nearly one trillion in wasted dollars, longer than WWII and still no end in sight. Now -- with the mighty US and British armies floundering in Iraq and Afghanistan -- they want to repeat this mini-Holocaust in Iran. Happily, McCain is doomed to lose the election and the neocons will soon be scuttling back into their crevices.
42. Obama kowtows to AIPAC, too!
Wolfram ,   USA   (02.03.08)
Why Clinton's success among Florida's Democratic Jewish voters? To begin with, the majority of them have ties with New York, where Senator Clinton has assiduously courted the Jewish vote. And then there is the proverbial contempt for African-Americans on the part of many US Jews. Nonetheless, I believe that, should Obama win the Democratic nomination, he will receive the majority of the Jewish vote. After all, he has -- no less than Clinton -- sworn allegiance to AIPAC!
43. For some strange reason, Jewish Dems love the Clintons
David ,   Raleigh, USA   (02.03.08)
Bill Clinton forced Israel into a deal of national suicide in order to win a Nobel Peace Prize. The Nobel Prize would overshadow the Lewinsky scandal and the countless other incidents of corruption that occured during his administration. Ironiically, Arafat ruined the deal by refusing to compromise.
44. If the Democratic party had their way..
Johnson ,   USA   (02.03.08)
They would lynch the blacks, crucify the conservatives, and throw the Jews into ovens. For Gods sake vote republican. Asked yourself... Who would your enemy vote for?
45. Candidates
Marilyn ,   USA   (02.03.08)
If Hillary went against McCain, McCain would win hands down. Obama's more of a wild card, he might have more of a chance against McCain.
46. Oh please, #41
Cameron ,   USA   (02.03.08)
Even if Hillary or Obama were to swing the election( God forbid ), the resulting Liberal apathy & indolence in facing the challenges of an always cold world ensures viability of the Right/neocons stepping forward to take the helm. Types like you had better start taking a blunt, realistic assessment of the world and offering credible alternatives beyond wounded Progressive sensibilities & fantasy yearnings for a hip, Utopian world where everyone is "digging" on eachother. Reality 101 for starting your first year at the University of Life.
47. #22 BUSH HOLDS HANDS WITH THE SAUDI QUEEN & YOU DON'T CARE?
Petra ,   usa   (02.03.08)
WAKE UP CHARLIE WE'VE BEEN HAD BY THE WORST VILLAGE IDIOT STILL WALKING, G.W.BUSH.
48. # 38 george m. nashville are you retarded?
Petra ,   usa   (02.03.08)
everyone but you knows G.W. Bush wanted this illegal war in Iraq. HE IS SOLELY responsible for our troops dying and our economy being bankrupted. On the news last night it was reported that another 27 repubs are leaving both the senate and congress. A total failure on the repubs who voted for every wish this village idiot had or was fed by his cronies that has harmed America more than we yet know. Don't you guys have news in nashville?
49. # 41 Neo cons last stand BINGO RedStar Yeast
Petra ,   usa   (02.03.08)
G.W. Bush and his last heir of the dynasty of the damned is finished. he should be thrilled that Nancy Pelosi didn't recommend impeachment( which he so richly deserves) Bush is Americas worst nightmare.
50. No`Bama
Itzik ,   USA   (02.03.08)
No`Bama, novelty candidate, no US political party would have put a man with suck a lack of experience up there, he's there because of his race. No Hill-Dog, a career BS artist whose views change as the winds blow. I recall a big smooch she gave Suha Arafat. Saudis have contributed the most to her than any other. US Republican party is the only one who will stand by Israel.
51. Its better than on her dress
Bill   (02.03.08)
52. Re: post #37
David M. ,   Toronto, Canada   (02.03.08)
First read my post #31 then please exactly reference your source(s) for that money! United States gives Israel in total per year the equivalent of what the U.S spends in just 2 to 3 weeks in Iraq! First, Egypt and Israel still get equal payments from the U.S. for that useless land for peace deal Carter made; Israel gave back the Sinai Desert for nothing! Second, the U.S. sells it's weapon systems to Israel and its enemies but only the Israelis make modifications based on experience and give feedback to the Americans! Unlike say the Saudis who keep accumulating weapons, never use them and in a really war nobody (the majority of non Saudi tribe Arabs that make up the country) would defend the royal family in a war!
53. The Democratic Party is a sinking ship.
RCA ,   USA   (02.03.08)
How could smart jews be so dumb, not to notice. The DP is not at all what it once was. It has been this way for a long time now. Staffed with hacks, opportunists, incompetents, usefull idiots, blinded ideologues, nay-sayers alongside the hopefull and hopeless true believers, the DP, these days , is not even a shadow of it's former self. It has systematically eliminated it's people of greatest talent and intellect and replaced them with self-serving demagogues that deplete the nations strength, wealth, and pervert the common sense of the body politic. Not that the Republicans are anywhere near perfect. They are not. But more of the old democratic spirit seems to be alive within the Republican Party these days. Just look at McCain. Look who Sen. Joe Lieberman supports (McCain). If Clinton were to be elected it would be like the US, having Olmert and his group in the US Presidency. They would be very good with all the ceremonials, but, little good with everything else.
54. HILLARY IS A HITCHHIKER.
RCA ,   USA   (02.03.08)
A real piker. She has no real experience in running any business, enterprise, company. Everything she has was given to her through political deals and for just being in the right place at the right time thanks to Bill. How else could she have been given the Senatorship of NY. If it werent for the endorsment of NY Sen. Patrick Moynihan and the "favor bank". Hillary would be gone from the national scene iff it hadn't been for skullduggery. That action alone was worthy of investigation. The only experience Hillary has had with world leaders in the past has been involving sipping tea and White House parties. This woman is no leader. I would happily welcome a woman as President of the US, but she have to be alot like Maggie Thatcher. There is no such comparison with Hillary.
55. Very good analysis, #53
Cameron ,   USA   (02.04.08)
Would not differ with a word of it. The Democratic Party reminds me more & more of a car racing down the highway with it's ideological brakes completely gone.
56. Fooled by Bush
Yossi ,   NY   (02.04.08)
Bush has said publicly that everything to the 1949 Armistice lines is up for negotiation. He forced Israel to allow Hamas in elections, to leave Gaza, to run from Lebanon. He has been in your country DEMANDING withdrawal and "compensation" to Palestinians. How far do you think he is from pushing for Pali right of return?? He's demanding more concessions then Clinton EVER did. And you still think that he and his party are Israel's allies? The man is in the pocket of the Saudis. Wake up!
57. His middle name's Hussein So what?
Ypip ,   Canada   (02.04.08)
Reading into it... The speculation that Malley (New York Times deciever) is somehow Middle Eastern advisor to Obama? That's a mistake. Malley is anti-Israel. Obama's Middle East adviser is Dan Shapiro. Malley worked for Bill Clinton. He was overly involved in the diplomatic disaster of 2000 while Clinton was toting an absurd map of Jerusalem around. And Yossi makes some good points concerning Bush btw.
58. Re: David, post #52
Zeal ,   Zionist America   (02.04.08)
I've read post #31; how did I get the amount? Well, the amount of money spent from 1949 to 1997 is $134,791,507,200, added with ten years at a rate of three billion dollars gives us that amount in #37. Egypt gets a little less than Egypt, but note that Israel's aid, with exception to Bush Senior, is unconditional (Bush senior froze payment to Israel for settlements, which cost him his reelection). Israel gave back the Sinai for nothing? Well what the hell was Egypt supposed to give you? You stole Sinai and now Egypt is your partner in crime. It cost Sadat his life! Regarding the Saudis, the money and weapons given to them is only to agitate them against Iran, which, like the aid to Israel (considering the devastation caused by it) is a big mistake. Feel free to comment.
59. #24 Give me a break!
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (02.04.08)
Which of your US Brothers gave you Olmert? You and all Israel had better get your head out of your rearend and do something about your own incompetient government before condemning your US Brothers!
60. Brother?
Ypip ,   Canada   (02.05.08)
The United States is NOT Israel's brother. Nor is Israel the United States brother. That's why they fight alot.
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