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Report: Most Arabs below poverty line
Sharon Roffe-Ofir
Published: 16.02.08, 21:58
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1. Load of garbage
Israeli citizen ,   Israel   (02.16.08)
Income statistics are based on income reported to the tax authorities. It is a known fact that much income in the Arab sector is unreported (ie under the table). The numbers reported in this article are completely unreliable. I suggest that anyone interested take a ride through an arab village and notice the housing stock and late model cars.
2. What Israel waits to help its own kids?
ילד מתוק ,   הבלקן   (02.16.08)
3. Great! If they don't like it, they need to move.
Antonio ,   Haifa   (02.16.08)
This country owes them nothing. This is not an Arab state.
4. There are 22 Arab states where they can find luck and $$$$$
frank ,   usa   (02.16.08)
5. Where's all that oil money?
(02.16.08)
Buying caviar for the mullahs?
6. OIL MONEY IN THE POCKETS -ISLAMIC TERRORIST -WEAPONS
ben shlomo ,   singapore   (02.17.08)
But these mutton heads, prefer to join the terrorist because they think their poverty will be addressed by the Terrosist Govt. Infact the TERRORIST GOVT- HAMAS has been sqaundeling their money. They are making systematic social engineering creating poverty so that the poor will have no choice than to join the terrorist movements. They make use of children like these Arab children as reported . These childern have no life- very sad childhood and i need not say what they would grow up to be : ( Everytime we make tzedekah, the money is abused, The UN is also corrupted ,they have many programs but none is effecient and effective. I need noty tell about the CHILDREN IN ISRAEL- THIS IS VERY FRUSTRATING ! These children are into child labor, prostituition, and it is even very hard to adopt them.The whole govt machinary is FAILURE ! We all have a share in the sins committed againts these poor children ( both Arab and Israeli Childern ). There is a market even for the body parts of children.Even the medical profession assist these, of course politicians are aware of these but they have a stake in such business. So naturally you see mnay disabled children too on the streets. Of course , there are so called parent who dont work but sit on the butts all day long hoping that these poor children will bring some income through beggings form the streets. These childern are born to horrible parents.Very Painful and Frustrating. I say ! And you have Parents who want these children to be suicide bombs, and join terrorist. From their early age they are exposed to these kind of activities. Where do you think these GAY PEOPLE originate from? It is from these poor childern. Look Politicians need these problem to stay in thier jobs. It is all politics. Mossawa Advocacy Center for Arabs is a big liar, scumb bag and the fund go to fat pays of its staff. The Isareli Govt should take these children, I can adopt many, my resouces are limited, I urge we show love and compassion to these arab childern as well,take them home, childern of Yisrael.Feed them, sent them to school bring them up in their religion of birth no matter how distasteful it get. Livni, Condolesa Rice and Mrs Olmert do something for these children. ben singapore :- (
7. Thank you
KK ,   Cairo   (02.17.08)
Nice article, and thank you Israelis to contribute to that poverty day and night by your occupation and agression that has been practised by you since and even before 1948! It is nto your sole responsibility if our children are under poverty line cause it is first our responsibility but you have a great job maintained that poverty and keeping the Palestinian kids for example at their worse state of childhood if any!
8. simple math
Observer from afar   (02.17.08)
It's simple geometric math that any high birth-rate culture will, on average, have less and less wealth to pass on to succeeding generations. This unavoidable situation is apparent with both Israeli Arabs and ultra-ortho Jews, among other examples around the world: On average, after a few generations, the path is clear. And even a wealthy culture inevitably runs out of steam after a high-growth-rate generation or two. Conversely, low birth-rate countries have great wealth to pass on to their future generations. For example, the Japanese and (recently) the Chinese. The trick is to avoid too low a birth rate, worth watching in the case of Japan, and also in many traditional European cultures (the latter now being overwhelmed by their high-birth-rate guest interlopers.) Which brings us to the Ural Mountains: "the boundary between China and Eurabia."
9. Arab Poverty
Walt ,   U.S.A.   (02.17.08)
What part does polygamy, misogyny, and dependency play in this situation? This is a population that has become quite addicted to handouts, while excoriating the giver. If Israel were not around, what would these people do?
10. The reality of the 5th column
Reality Check ,   BaGolan   (02.17.08)
The Arabs of the 5th column riot and demonstrate and assist the pali terrorists against the Jewish State and then riot and demonstrate demanding that the Jews assist them. Bottom line: If we didn't have to spend so much on defenses against the islamofascists, the economy could be infused with trillions!
11. Arab Poverty
Lori ,   Seattle, WA   (02.17.08)
First, I am not Arabic but Jewish and have spent a great deal of time in Israel, including the West Bank. I am absolutely appalled at the ignorance and attitudes of some of the posters on this article. "If they don't like it, they need to move"? Many-if not most-of these Arab families have lived in Israel for generations- their descendants were here long before most of the Jewish citizens of the state of Israel! "There are 22 Arab states where they can find luck and $$$ ??" The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaze are treated as 'pawns' by the PLO , Hamas and Arab states-who refuse to help their own people. It is a tragedy that Israeli Arabs are perhaps the most marginalized citizens in the state of Israel. As the previous posts show, Israeli Arabs are rejected by Jewish Israelis who look down on them as "dirty", "Violent" and "ignorant" and treated as second-class citizens (if that). If this were not bad enough, Israeli Arabs are also not accepted by Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza who feel that the Israeli Arabs have "sold out" by remaining in Israel..they can't win! (there is a great deal of jealousy and envy towards Israeli Arabs by Palestinians in the occupied territories because they are allowed to travel freely, access Al-Aqsa and holy sites, have access to better jobs and living conditions, etc). So please try and have just a little bit of compassion and feeling. They are citizens of the state of Israel, just as you are, and the Palestinians in the occupied territories are suffering-htis is not supporting the violence of some factions, not at all. But nearly all are peace-loving and and have no desire for violence-they want to live in peace just as we do. Their children do not deserve to go hungry any more than yours do. If there is ever to be peace between our peoples, it must start SOMEwhere--why not with YOU?
12. How well would they do in Egypt and Jordan?
Barry   (02.17.08)
13. That's what donens of kids creates --poverty
AK   (02.17.08)
Cure = 1 wife and 2 or 3 kids per Arab.
14. problem is the on the table, it is under
Ilan ,   Ariel   (02.17.08)
It is known that two sectors, Hareidi and Arab have a large percentage of their income as unreported. Changing the tax laws to be less punitive towards wage earner on the lower end would perhaps encourage people to fully report their income and give make accurate poverty statistics possible.
15. Israel not good?
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (02.17.08)
Israel not good? So Move On!
16. Poverty is not nonsense it is disgusting
steve ,   london, england   (02.17.08)
The President of Egypt and the King of Jordan are being reported as having called upon the State of Israel to end the Gaza siege. Is that the best they can do for the arabs living in poverty? Isn't there a poverty of realistic pragmatism in Egypt and Jordan! Surely they should be calling upon Hamas to put an end to the Qassam rocket attacks! But are they making such calls? Nobody has reported as much. How loud does one have to shout to be heard? The President of Egypt and the King of Jordan can be heard without raising their voices to be heard. But they talk nonsense and they condemn arabs in Israel to suffer under Israel's stiffled economy and Palestinians in Gaza to suffer under Hamas tyranny. GOD hates poverty as much as war. And we are all creatures of the same GOD. It is reason and conscience that divides us. STEVE
17. #1 is %100 right
Freejay ,   Israel   (02.17.08)
Total bogus survey and YNet should be ashamed for printing such utter lies. I drive through Arab populated areas, like Tira, all the time, and it always amazes me how big and beautiful their homes are and how alot drive new cars....................but they also leave their streets in their towns dirty and littered, never landscape their properties....and never pay taxes, which means no one really knows what most of them earn. Also, don't forget that, in Israel, the Arabs have the highest standard of living compared to any other Arab country......but the survey doesn't bother to mention that.
18. "ARAB PLIGHT CAN BE REDUCED" !
RSEENER@GMAIL.COM ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (02.17.08)
ALTHOUGH WE ARE A SECULAR STATE,THERE IS A NATURAL DESIRE TO LOOK AFTER ONE'S OWN KIND FIRST.THERE IS A DEEP SUSPICION THAT THE ARAB POPULATION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOWNFALL OF THE STATE,,WHICH IS PREPONDANTLY JEWISH..WITH LACK OF SYMPATHY BEING SHOWN BY ARAB MEMBERS OF THE KNESSET TO THE TRAGEDIES EMMANATING FROM HAMAS AND HISBOLA TO FELLOW JEWISH CITIZENS,(WITH I SUSPECT A DEGREE OF GLEE,)IS IT ANY WONDER THAT MANY DO NOT WANT TO EMPLOY ARABS .IT IS A PITTY THAT THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB IS HELD BACK BY THE ETHNIC DIVIDING LINE,BUT THIE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER CAN BE OVERCOME IF THE OUTRAGES EXPRESSED BY THE JEWISH COMMUNITY,WERE EQUALLY EXPRESSED BY THE ARAB COMMUNITY....LET THIS HAPPEN,...AND THEN CHANGES FOR THE BETTER ARE MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR. I MAY BE WRONG BUT.WHY NOT GIVE IT A TRY?
19. Cut down on the babies
zach   (02.17.08)
20. This is not Denmark or the Netherlands!!!!
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (02.17.08)
"Behind these numbers are families, and children who are poor, hungry and looking to the government for solutions.”" This is not Scandanavaia where the Government has enough royalties to support the general population. These people need to develop a culture of community activism and philanthropy. When I say community activism I am not talking about the Black panthers kind. I am talking about apolitical grass roots social support organizations manned by volunteers and sponsored by privately by money raised locally and abroad.
21. #7
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (02.17.08)
We bought wealth to the palestinians living here. Before our fascist occupation of Arab lands, the locals lived in a progressive paradise where they owend no land. They payed much of there har5d earned money to super rich Arab land owners who lived abroad. Incidentally, our oppressed occupied Arabs are living far better than they are in Egypt Mr. Cairo.
22. To #8
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (02.17.08)
Your inclusion of Orthodox Jews in your example is only partially true. Please research the amount of community activism that exists in those communities and the amount of philanthropy donated by Orthodox Jews whether to combat poverty or with medical issues. You will find enormous amounts whether in human resources and in contributions invested from those communities in the form of self help.
23. define poverty
solemnman ,   nahariya   (02.17.08)
Is their poverty real or merely apparent.Do the parameters for determining poverty include activities and income from the black and criminal economy?.Does it include :unpaid arnona and other taxes,the theft of crops and farm equipment.,the sale of the wood from illegally destroyed trees (as was the case recently in Nahariya)?What are the parameters?How is poverty defined ?
24. poverty?
israeli ,   israel   (02.17.08)
Most Israeli Arabs would rather keep their wives at home, in order to cook, clean and look after the children. You can't expect to get rich on one salary alone.
25. AU CONTRAIRE
Samir ,   US   (02.17.08)
Israel is an arab state with so much of the population sharing such a strong arab heritage. The architectural, cultural and culinary heritage is overwhelmingly arab. Whether people like it or not these facts speak for themselves. One need only list to music, look at the cuisine to realize this fact.
26. Samir
israeli ,   israel   (02.17.08)
Nice try, but no, not quite Arab. Certainly Middle Eastern and Mediterranean. We also like Greek and Turkish food and music (not really Arab, are they?). And we never take our coffee with hell (cardamon), but prefer cappuchinos and espressos; we also like croissants for breakfast instead of pitta and olives.
27. sooner or later
antony ,   h   (02.17.08)
sooner or later israel willweaken, it will fall , christians passed through this experience, learn from them. by the way muslims will treat well as their religon tells them to do
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