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Ben-Eliezer: Israel must release Barghouti
Roni Sofer
Published: 23.02.08, 19:17
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1. idiots
mike ,   usa   (02.23.08)
your goverment is a bunch of idiots who respect nothing other then themselves and the terrorist who kill jews. release the mastermind murdered of jews. why not. jewish blood is cheap. if jews can be trusted to stand by jews when arabs never will, Israel you are doomed. Did I hear let Pollard out by the US admin. NO, but let a jew kller out, by the request of an aging old man, that is jewish it is ok. WHEN ISRAEL IS A MUSLIN NATION, YOU HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME
2. Walid Shoebat tells us…
Jean Van Daem ,   Metula   (02.23.08)
Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against: “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?” “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”. When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”. This declaration by a true “Palestinian” should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day “Palestinians” are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history as explained in details at : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2007/12/myths-hypotheses-and-facts-concerning_3280.html
3. Eliezer and reality
geroge   (02.23.08)
Eliezer has some good points, but he admitted he was wrong about gaza. Look at sderotis! Now you want missiles in jerusalme and in the gallille? Eliezer, there is no peace, only a status quo. Why would bargouti want peace? None of the arabs want peace. Who are you kidding. All the arabs on the west bank can be confederated with jordan and have an economic relation with israel. Eliezer, a lot of israelis died because your tactics were weak and late under barak.I doubt that the IDF would fight for barak who was surprisingly gutless in his response to 2 soldiers being lycnched in ramallah. I'll never forget it. Ramallah should have been levelled. Barak is no good in land battles as his flight from lebanon was very weak.
4. Curtin going up. Lights. Overture.
Gideon Reader ,   USA   (02.23.08)
Ben Elizer NEEDS to call Bibi, and seriously discuss the formation of a new government of Israel with Bibi as PM, and Ben Elizer as DM with Zalman Shoval as FM, to save the country from the predations visited on it by the incompetent and corrupt Olmert the Failed government. Immeadiate needs are the annexation of Judea/Samaria & Golan, and the statement to the so called Palentinians that their best days are behind them. Total D&D(death & destruction) for the Hamastoonians and righting the wrongs of the Gush Katif fiasco.
5. FAOUD !!!!!
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (02.23.08)
What is happening to you? In honesty you were a pretty good defense minister and with your background had a pretty good understanding of our friendly neighbours. Now you start the same dellusional blabbering as the other airheads who are daily featured on Ynet's soap opera. Come on man keep it together do not start quoting senseless rubbish. Do not let us look upon you as most of these fools who making a laughing stock out of us.
6. Talks more sense than most ministers
Chanalau, Tova ,   London, UK   (02.23.08)
It was de Gaulle who spoke for France, not Petain; similarly Marwan Barghouti represents far more Palestinians than the vichyist Abbas. But as Israel doesn't want peace, only land and water, the whole discussion is beside the point; there will only be peace when Israel gets shot of its imperialist delusions and that only happen when there is a decent president in the US (don't hold your breath).
7. Neither
Ypip ,   Canada   (02.23.08)
is the direction
8. DOES ANYBODY AT THE TOP READ Y-MAIL
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (02.23.08)
HOW MANY PEOPLE DID BARGHOUTI KILL? HOW MANY DID YIGAEL AMIR KILL? THE EQUATION IS NOT EQUAL FOR PEOPLE WITH BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS...DOES THEIR RELEASE DEPEND ON ...THE MORE BLOOD,THE BETTER..IT MAKES ONE WONDER!
9. another egomaniac
eddie ,   London UK   (02.24.08)
Ben Eli is a greedy man, and not just for food. For his ego. He is just dreaming up a new political gambit as his attempt to grab labour leadership from Barak. His ideas are useless, as are Barak's. but anything new, so long as it affords him the chance to vie for the #1 position.
10. ?????
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (02.24.08)
If a "minister of infrastructure" is the guy in charge of bridges, highways, etc. why is he allowed to publicly spout about foreign affairs? Can't somebody put a muzzle on some of these people?
11. The Old Has Been
Yisraeli   (02.24.08)
Like an alte shmatte he hangs around. All his past policies have been proven false and idiotic. Yet he is still there. He is so past his use by date yet he clings on to his false dellusions. Instead of looking for a Jewish Messiah he looks for a murderous arab to be his messiah. This is the bankruptcy of the Left. Left with no ideology, no Zionism, no Judaism this is where they look for salvation to the likes of Bargoutti. And yet the same fools vote them in time after time. They get between 18-30 seats, a party that stands for nothing is nothing and run by nothings. For whats coming to Israel one can truly say this is what you have consistently asked for. How can any Jew in the diaspora take Israel seriously anymore.
12. WRONG AGAIN for 2 reasons: terrorist does NOT want peace...
dante ,   uk   (02.24.08)
first, the terrorist-murderer is NOT interested in peace. THAT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO ANYONE WITH AN I.Q. ABOVE ROOM TEMPERATURE. that seems not to include Ben-Eliezer. second, even if the terrorist murderer were interested in peace, there is a little problem: a large percentage of his people, including the islamists, do not.
13. Here's a thought
Reality Ceck ,   BaGolan   (02.24.08)
Swap Barghouti with the Olmert "leadership". We'd all be better off
14. Barghouti is Israel's 'best' chance for SUICIDE.
David ,   Hartford USA   (02.24.08)
I'm just amazed that Israel's brightest thinkers can continually come up with such stupid ideas. Maybe we should see if Idi Amin is available? What does elevating a murderer to PM of the PA do? It institutionalizes MURDER and TERRORISM. Any MK who even considers such a foolhardy thought should be kicked out of the gov.
15. Barghouti for Shalit, and Pollard!
David Turner ,   Richmond, US   (02.24.08)
Assuming the Palestinians really want Barghouti back, a stretch in that Abbas would be out in the street, and Hamas would find itself confronting an ably-led Fateh political and military adversary; but just assuming. If Hamas wants him released then they should be willing to include Shalit in the deal. As for Bush willingness to surrender Pollard: the rank incompetence of his diplomacy which, at minimum, created a power vacuum in the Middle East (a generous “minimum!”) might, if he even appreciates the full measure of his failures, encourage him to seek at least the appearance of one Middle East success, Annapolis. Not that there is even a remote possibility of success in this area either. But then we are only talking about “appearance” here. Neither could Olmert just up and release convicted terrorist Barghouti without some political cover. Pollard would provide the fig leaf to justify the release of Barghouti to go forward. Of course this presupposes that Bush even recognize his failures. But then there is also the problem that Pollard himself declined the possibility of being part of a trade involving a terrorist, an action which should, at the very least challenge the enmity of so many American talkbackers who routinely attack him as traitor and mercenary. Might Pollard’s obvious Zionist idealism suggest that some reconsideration of their enmity might be in order, that perhaps a more real cause of their energetic attack on Pollard might rather be insecurity in the eyes of their neighbors? But despite Pollard preferring prison over freeing Barghouti, if Israel is seriously considering the release they also have an obligation towards Pollard and Shalit. Barghouti should only be freed only on condition that these two captured Israeli soldiers are also released.
16. What type of Sickness is This?
Dovid Ben Leizer ,   Novi Mich USA   (02.24.08)
This has to be some sort of sick joke. This fool thinks that dealing with abbas the terrorist is not enough, he wants to let the other Jew killer out of Jail so he can deal with a bigger terrorist. What insanity is this? Dealing with the killers of Jewish men, women, and children. What happen to the great american proverb, "we will never deal with terrorists". The olmert government follows every other stupid US mistake like a dog on a leash. If thats not enough, eliezer wants to deal away the rest of the Jewish Homeland. This guy is nothing more than an olmert clone. Am Yisrael Chi With Love of Zion Dovid Ben Leizer Hakohain Lt.Col.Ret. Novi Michigan USA OMNI-BERATUS
17. Another appeasing politician
Freejay ,   Israel   (02.24.08)
Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer is following the same foolish paths as our other ignorant selfish MKs. Appeasement and gifts to the bogus Palastinians, even though they only want us destroyed......that makes real sense! Do you really think Marwan Barghouti will change the Palastinian Charter? Its also funny how Fatah dont want him released, but Hamass are pushing for it as hard as they can. Do you propose to weaken the so called moderates Mr Binyamin Ben-Eliezer? We need a government that will rebuke the claim that there is a Palastine....enough of the BS already!
18. Chanalau, Tova , London, UK
Yerach ,   Jerusalem,Israel   (02.24.08)
I have an idea,being that you British created the problem how about taking in the "Palestinians" in London being that you love them so much? Relocating them to London will save us here in Israel much heartache.
19. Small time dealmakers not leaders
Ilan ,   Ariel   (02.24.08)
Ben Eliezer thinks that you can make peace the same way you can broker a corrupt labor primary. But of course if not for the vote buying and selling that advanced him he wouldn't be in national politics at all.
20. Do the Israeli leaders understand the gravity of the Islamic
Jean Van Daem ,   Metula   (02.24.08)
As a result of the second Libanon war, extraordinarily grave damage was done. The enemies of Israel, comprising all of the Arab countries in the Middle East (including Egypt and Jordan) as well as the rest of the Islamic world, are now convinced that Israel is a temporary entity that can be defeated and destroyed, and that its Jewish population can be exterminated. This notion has already infiltrated the minds and convictions of many in the West, particularly those who belong to the Left, who believe that the establishment of the State of Israel was a mistake, both moral and political, and one way or another must be eliminated. The Western world, in particular the United States and Israel, have not yet come to grips with the gravity of the global conflict, which is developing rapidly on a daily basis. This is a war that fanatic Islam, which now engulfs the whole Islamic world, has declared on the West as explained at : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/01/stop-them-with-clear-cut-victory-part-i.html
21. The Bloodier their Hands the More the Leftists Worship Them
Dr. Dave ,   NYC   (02.24.08)
Ben Eliezer misses Arafat so much he can't wait to replace him with someone as disgusting. With leaders like these, Israel is totally screwed. Ben Gurion & Begin are both spinning in their graves.
22. Ben-Eliezer apparently has no idea what the majority thinks
redmiike ,   TA - LA - London   (02.24.08)
"The minister added that "it is true that the people of Israel are now very ready to accelerate peace negotiations, the majority are ready to go for any agreement as long as the peace will be peace". Every poll that I have read shows that the vast majority of Israels not only don't believe that 'peace' talks are taking place (they think it's a ruse to stay in power) but they don't think that peace will 'ever' be reached with the PA or Hamas. The vast majority are firmly against giving away any more land and view it as simply strengthening an enemy. So many politicians seem to be totally out of touch with the public and appear t o be of living in ivory towers. Mike
23. Murderers can't deliver
Mike ,   Raanana   (02.24.08)
Barghouti is a murderer of Jews. He can't deliver anything other than uniting Palistineans to commit more murder of Israelis. The only thing that can deliver security and peace is a strong Israeli leader who has the balls and the brains to know how to draw a line both geographically and when it comes to terrorism. Our current leaders have none of these traits and should be locked up together with Barghouti.
24. Pollard & Shalit
Simcha ,   Jerusalem   (02.24.08)
Forget releasing Barghouti and just give us the two you are holding: 1. It's the right thing to do. 2. We've already traded for them both without receiving. 3. No more one-sided swaps. The people on the street are fed up!!
25. FOOL: meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Z Lando ,   Tekoa, Israel   (02.24.08)
how does it feel to make the same mistake time after time?
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