If you call the march of the living "march of the hate" because of some deranged , may i call Poles antisemites because of radio maryia ? . Poles saved Jews from extinction ? [your 19 / 5 ] I did'nt know that the West European country where i lived was Poland ,and the Braves who helped me were Poles . They did'nt speak polish at all , as i don't do .

This is not ME who calls those marches that way - the Poles do. How, really, how do you know that Radio Maryja is an antisemitic radio? Your daddy told you so? Just kidding - you NEVER posted such a retarded argument. But seriously: as far as I know, they pray and give news all day, day by day. Every time I am in Poland and visit my grandma - I can hear that: prayers and christian songs, and news. Someone called them 'antisemitic' and now whole world is slandering them, 99% of them don't have slightest clue WHAT Radio Maryja airs. But they follow 'trendy' world. Extinction: figuratively speaking. When Jews were expelled from every country, the only country they COULD live, was Poland. I wonder if there is any research of 'what could have happened had Poland closed her doors, too'? Cheers, Greg

Another scholar from Brasil... Yaaaawn...

No, Poland didn't start the war, but it was cheering when the Czechs got their arms twisted in Munich. Hitler got the Czech industry and defense lines and Poland got Zaolzie. The Czechs were disarmed and finished and Poland came next.

How many jews survived the war in Poland?

The Jews of Poland were made refugees and no UNWRA-like UN organization was created to take care of them. I don't hear anything about reparation for the Jews, just about fear that Germans might reclaim their property.

Let me answer your question with a question: 'who did kill Jews in Poland?'

good one, Sol

There’s no smoke without fire. It’s possible that 95% of their content is strictly religious and/or harmless and I don’t believe every listener of Radio Maryja is anti-Semitic but I’m pretty sure they attract those types. They do have a history of various incidents and every time there is a controversy in Polish-Jewish relations, they adopt the most radical and often indefensible position. Part of the problem of course is that they react with hostility and extreme defensiveness to all sorts of people, not only Jews. I read Nasz Dziennik for a while some time ago and I found things there that really turned me off. As for the Marches of the Living, it depends. It may be that many Poles are somewhat wary of them but I would not generalize. Sure, I did read accounts of participants that sounded very hostile. It was clear that they came to Poland with a firm conviction to hate everything. They complained about the way people “stared” at them, about the food (?), about the weather (coming from Canada!), etc. as if there was a clear relationship between bad weather in March in a northern European country and the fact that concentration camps were located there…But I also read accounts of participants in groups which met with Polish youth and those were much more positive and constructive.

Read my homework: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#During_the_Holocaust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

Have'nt you anything to say ? or is it too difficult for you to concede that those links are right ?

which are not worth answering, your TBs have very little -if any- substance. I do not know if you are jewish or not, but you all certainly seem to have no direct relationships whatsoever with Polish jews and their descendants, dozens and dozens of which a happened to meet in person here, in Brazil, and also in Israel. All of them, without exception, would certainly give you reliable testimonies about the hardships of being a jew in Poland. There is no scholarly (revisionist?) article capable of convincing any conscious jew otherwise, is it simply too well known to us. Oh, by the way: I have no Polish ancestry, but this does not prevent me from being aware of so obvious and widely known truth. And if you want references about it, try Raoul Hilberg, Howard Sachar, Salo Baron; even Art Spiegelman and Leon Uris works will give you a glimpse of what I am talking about. It is not a matter of hate, but of simple recognition of plain historical facts, deeply ingrained into the collective memory of modern jew..

remember the Kielce pogroms in 1946 and other similar attacks against jewish survivors...against facts there are no possible arguments!

This is quite a story and should be better known than it is! An excellent book about this recent episode of Polish-Jewish history is "Forced Out: The Fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland" by Arthur J. Wolak.

Really sorry for such a long post: Researcher: I am glad you took an effort to investigate the hitory. re 1st link: Paragraph mostly mentions German and Russian pogroms (that's! where the sources are) and speaks briefly on Jedwabne. Jedwabne, though, is still questionable: certainly, there WERE the Poles involved. But apart to that knowledge, there were bullets (over a hundred) found in the vicinity. This suggests that Germans were present there as well, so the Poles (apart from about 20, who DEFINITELY took part in it because they wanted to) weren't so eager to kill people there as happy antiPolish propaganda suggests. re 2nd link and TB # 44: Kielce (and other cities as well, like Krakow, at the very same time). There are historians who proved that this was a Soviet provocation - why, I can elaborate if you're willing to read it. There are still lots of Q, but hopefully we'll know the full story when the vaults of Moscow, Berlin and London are opened. I'd still suggest that you, Researcher, turn into published historians' work to read more on the subject, rahter than rely on wiki. Flavio: I can find dozens and dozens of people who happened to suffer because of then Jews - then I'll write a book slandering whole population of Jews. How many Poles or Europeans were you talking to about the subject? "so obvious and widely known truth" Wrong. This 'widely' and 'known' truth is bunch of BS being told over and over again. See, the point is that the Poles' mouths were shut for 40+ years and whoever wanted to say sh%$ about Poland and the Poles - he could. This is being changed, as more and more documents are available for historians in Eastern and Western Europe (e & w e documents, not historians, for they are international). As for personal offences... I did not really offend you. I did not say you were stupid, for I don't know wheter you are or not (apparently not). I called you a 'moron' for only a moron takes stories told by one side as an ulitmate truth without bothering to find out the other side's stories. The names you gave me: I will check (whatever I can find on the net) what did they write about, but this only illustrates my previous point: they are all Jews, hence this is one-sided story, no matter how true or how much made up. Again, I am very sorry for such a long post.

I have noticed that you posted in between Researcher and Flavio. Smart-ass we became, didn't we?

When you can't say anything serious , you'll better shut up ! I asked you your reaction to # 41 . To fall as low as you : now you will be between flavio and me , hope only faraway from me .

?????? I fell so low b/c of what?! What did I say that was so low? Are you ok, Charles?