beilin is so confused, so lost. in beilin's view, if the Jews stopped defending themselves the "palestinians" would like them or at least they wouldn't hate the Jews. the problem is that all the empircal evidence leads to the conclusion that the Jews would have made themselves vulnerable without having gained a thing: THERE IS NOTHING THE JEWS CAN DO TO CHANGE A GENERATION RAISED ON VICIOUS HATE BY THEIR OWN "LEADERS." one cannot deal with people who believe that terrorism aimed at civilians is legitimate but restrained defence against that terrorism is not.

Imagine the temerity of this guy. After Oslo he should have the never to say a word...

In one point Beilin is right, we have to take care not to end up in even more violence than we are already. But I don't know if an cease fire ageement with Hamas is so right at this point. I think, it's not.

He should listen to this guy .. http://europeanpc.notlong.com/

You don't support it, you don't get it.

Israel should renounce the use of force under any circumstances. The best thing Israel could do now is to totally end the IDF. Publicly announce in the name of peace Israel is shutting down its military machine and would only have unarmed police.

NO EXCUSE CAN BE FOUND FOR THIS TRGEDY.JEWS WATCH THEIR YOUNG FOLK CLOSELY,AND DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO TAKE TO THE STREETS,AND INCULT THEM WITH A VIOLENT HATRED AGAINST ANY OTHER RELIGION.AS THEY GROW UP,THEY ARE ENCOURAGED TO STUDY.WE HAVE NOT BEEN ENCOURAGED TO THROW STONES,AND FIRE OFF "KALACHNIKOFFS" AND.SUICIDE IS ALIEN TO OUR WAYS....NOT SO WITH THE ARABS....IT IS FOR THEIR COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY IN THE UP-BRINGING OF THEIR YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THEY SHOULD BE REWARDED WITH COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT.THEIR SWEET DISTRIBUTION AFTER ONE OF THEIR KIN HAS BECOME A SHAHID IS ALSO ALIEN TO OUR WAY OF LIFE.. .MR .BEILIN HAS A POLITICAL AGENDA..BUT.,I HAVE A SOCIAL AGENDA,THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED FIRST.FOR US TO START SITTING AROUND TABLES.UNLESS THIS IS SEEN AS OF PRIMARY IMPORTANCE IN GAZA,EAST JERUSAALEM,AND THE WEST BANK THERE CAN NOT BE PEACE

Well said. Too many excuses, too many abdications of any kind of responsibility for their disgusting actions that the world seems to try and find ways of pegging on Israel. Its nothing to do with Israel! Its THEM!

Beilin actually manages to dismiss the massacre in a single sentence. The speed with which the left is able to gloss over the destruction of lives and entire families and various "korbanot hashalom" is astounding. "Oh yes. A bunch of Yeshiva students are dead - very sad. Now instead of talking about them, lets all listen to my stupid crap one more time." For once, Mr Beilin, please just shut up.

ignoring the morons like beilin who got us into this mess - gaza must be militarily reoccuppied, divided into 4 sections without travel between the 4, including the philadelphia route secured, and this will prevent rocket smuggling to areas close to sderot and ashkelon.

mr beilin , kindly wake up . the palestinians will never accept israel . no matter how hard you try to appease them . please don't be a neville chamberlain

Please make sure you don't repeat yours!!!

"The faster we reach a detailed peace agreement...." Israel may indeed have a piece of paper with all the details spelled out. The paper could even be signed by ALL the Palestinian leaders, agreeing to peace. In the end, it will mean nothing. It won't bring the peace that Israel wants. Look at all the past treaties. What have they brought? Peace?! No .. more terror. It's very unfortunate. I wish it were possible to reach such an agreement and bring peace to Israel. However, after decades of watching the 'peace process', I conclude that Israeli leaders, world-wide leftists, and others should take the Palis. at their word. The Palis. leaders have stated again & again that what they want is for Israel to BE GONE. Please stop treating them as children & believe them. Take them at their word and act accordingly. They DO NOT want peace as long as Israel survives as a nation. They have stated this innumerable times!

hatred.

Beilin knows we made a big mistake in 2000. He just doesn't know what the mistake was. Acccording to this discredited official, the mistake was in reacting too harshly to Arafat's doublecross and terrorist war. If he has a memory at all, he should remember that Barak responded very cautiously at first. He bombed empty buildings and did his best to avoid Palestinian casualties---even though Israelis were being slaughtered. The mistake of 2000 (and the entire Oslo process) was in relying on hope rather than acknowledging the facts on the ground. Arafat con- tinued to break agreements and indoctrinate his followers with hatred. Israeli intelligence was blinded to the horror of what this incitement was doing to the Palestinian population. American Jewish organizations, with the exception of the ZOA, were like sheep and blindly supported a peace process that offered no peace. Beilin and his ilk share the blame for what really happened in 2000.

Beinlin is the reason there was so much Israeli blood in 2000. His warped leftist mind will never concede that all he has preached from Oslo on has led to more death and destruction. Isreali society should have spit him out by now.

as all the lefts in israil specialy the leaders but sure they are not honest they want the same thing as the right but they are not honest with their seleves so how to be honest with their people /the same is about abou mazen and his group he is not honest at all to himselfe or his people or to israil

What happened in 2000 is the direct result of Leftist weaknesses. The more Israel is weak the more Arabs will become violent. Beilin is just an irresponsible coward trying to evade the realities.

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Beilin has to justify his fundings by European corrupted money.. So, he talks and writes !!

There is little doubt that Yossi Beilin thinks that the Muslim conquest of Persia, Anatolia, Sindh, India, North Africa, Andalusia and the Balkans are the result IDF response in the year 2000!

are you jocking if not iam sorry to say you are confused about religion state race and right of people // the first thing to make mistakes is the confusion /as right decision needs clear vision and honesty but honesty with confusion is nothing and power with confusion is nothing

I am somewhat confused as to what you are trying to say. If you think that the Muslim conquests of Persia, Anatolia, Sindh, India, North Africa, Andalusia and the Balkans are not relevant , perhaps the 10699 Islamic terror attacks since 9/11 all listed on this site are: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ Date Country City Killed Injured Description 3/10/2008 Afghanistan Badghis 1 0 Religious extremists ambush and kill a local policeman. 3/9/2008 Chechnya Troitskaya 1 0 An Islamic sniper fires on a convoy, killing a Russian soldier. 3/9/2008 Somalia Hiiraan 10 8 A woman is among ten people shot to death by Islamic militants. 3/8/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 3 1 Two children and an old man are blown to bits by a Taliban bomb. 3/8/2008 Iraq Wajihiya 3 2 Jihadis kill three family members with a roadside bomb. 3/7/2008 Iraq Mosul 4 19 A suicide bomber takes out four Iraqis at a police station. 3/7/2008 Thailand Yala 2 0 A 55-year-old man and his wife are murdered by Muslim gunmen inside their home. 3/6/2008 Israel Garara 2 2 Two Israeli soldiers are killed in a bombing attack by Islamic Jihad.