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Man shoots sister then congratulated by family
Sharon Roffe-Ofir
Published: 11.03.08, 14:22
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61. To#12. You are not who you claim is, And what Honor are you
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls Church, VA USA   (03.11.08)
Talking about by one kill his sister for whatever reason is. you are suggesting or the evil wrong thinking about this society and you are for some reason mixing up thing. the Society zeal of killing exist in all society with different form. Yes the Honor Killing is a wrong tradition it root comes from Ignorance and misunderstanding of the religion itself. I hope that that girl will make it and get back well soon and for her brother needs to be hanged, and the rest of the happy Family to be put in a Phsycatric facility. Thank you
62. I am a moslem and a proud one....
Khamzir Saleh ,   um el fahm   (03.11.08)
Why everybody hates me so much?I only stated the truth about my religion and our true intentions. Has everyone become so numb to the truth as we see it? After all the Koran is clear and specific about how to treat infidels and dhimmi's. Just because I speak the real voice about Islam I get attacked?! Can you not see from the bombs on occupied sderot, the hizballah rockets, the sucide bombs, the shooting at Mercaz ha rabbi center, do you not get the message?! We hate you! you do not belong here in palestine, as the shahid arafat said (allah bless him) we will iberate our land "FROM THE SEA TO THE RIVER" are you zionists so oblivious to the truth?! we have stated our cause many many times in many different ways, we tell the western media what they want to hear but tell our arab brothers the truth in our heart. Why do you persist in deluding yourselves that we want peace? did we ever say we wanted peace? did we ever show any willingness to peace? did we ever stop killing your people?, the answer is no, never! did you ever hear of palestinian peace now? did you ever hear of moderate palestinian "left wing" groups, NO! not one not even one! so why do you delude yourselves so? we stated our intentions clearly, it is you zionists who dilly daly and pusssy foot around the issue not us! Finally I am an arab moslem from Um al fahm, educated in new york returning home soon, hopefully to my palestine without any occupiers
63. no normal muslim would honor kill
sue ,   brooklyn, ny   (03.11.08)
you can not blame all muslims or Islam for the aberrant behavior of a few. No normal person could kill his female family members unless he is a psycopath.
64. #12 does not sound like a muslim
sue ,   brooklyn, ny   (03.11.08)
try to do something productive with your time, don't waste ours
65. #62 Khamzir-I WILL BE WATCHING YOU
Mossad   (03.11.08)
66. Amen
Moshe ,   Atlanta   (03.11.08)
67. We'll have a welcome committee ready and waiting for you at
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the airport. If you make it that far. Welcome to Israel!!! Any time!
68. 63# You just cracked their cult religion in a nut shell!
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.11.08)
It is full of physchopaths and teachings from prehistoric physchopaths. Why do you think they keep committing such abominable acts? Their little criminal manual tells them it is A-Okay by Muhammed. Case dismissed. Every serial killer wishes he could have crafted a book to allow him to commit his crimes with absolute freedom. It's kind of like abortion. Only women get to do it. Men don't get to drag the woman to the abortion clinic to avoid child support. It's about the muslims religion....that's why it is allowed. It's about the womans body....that's why it is allowed. But if it's about a child support payment.....well.....the guy can just go get stuffed. It's only for the convenience of the woman. It's only for the convenience of the Muslim Religion. Whether it is right or not.....only your daughters lives.....and babies lives have a say in the process. Does anyone evr ask any of these victims if they really want to die. I mean really....we are living in an age of human rights. Right? Smile!! Wink..Wink?????
69. honor shooting???
khalil hindi ,   san diego   (03.11.08)
# 10 show me where islam advocate honor killing?????
70. Archbishop of Canterbury wants more of this in Britain
Jake   (03.11.08)
as he said, "aspects of Sharia Law should be incorporated into the British legal system"... to which the Islamic Sheikh of northern Nigeria replied, "I felt very good. "The people of northern Nigeria are very happy. It shows the recent upward rating of the British and the way they see Islam...That call from the Archbishop of Canterbury caused a serious round of celebrations because people feel, 'These people are now listening to us. Let us look at them and talk to them properly.'" ....Nigeria is a substantial supplier of high quality oil to Britain. Religious harmony and political stability in that country are seen by businesspeople as essential for the maintenance of the well-being of the British economy. http://www.ecusa.anglican.org/81808_95562_ENG_HTM.htm
71. Here the proff that it has no thing to do with Islam
Simon Mohammed ,   Falls Church, VA USA   (03.11.08)
If any one care and rational in his her judgement to go and check the following. 14 centuries ago and before that, the Arab tribe and this before the birth of Islam used to be Ashamed of having a new born as girl, they buried them a live. After the birth of Islam that was forbiden and educated the Arab People. Saying that we can talk about this issue that personally beleive is totaly wrong and it is some thing developed socialy like when some one in the west shot for free a guy or a girl. The point we agree it is wrong need to be addressed, but Islam has no thing to do with it and never promote it. One more thing it will be helpeful if want to talk about thing and accuse the whole religion state who we are and what we beleive in. Like X say I am a Jew, or Christian, or Muslim or what ever he/she is and speak free. he must be avaliable to get an answer back equal to the respect he/she show is the talk. again with total respect and best regard. Peace
72. Rabbi Yeshua said a man's enemies are the men of his own
Rivkah   (03.11.08)
house. It appears a woman's enemies are the men of her own house, too. I grew up in a Christian home and my brothers raped me and my parents did not call the police. When my mother died, my brothers robbed me of my inheritance. The good news is that my brothers are going to hell when they die. Many people who think they are Christians or Moslems or Jews and are going to heaven will be told when they die by God that He never knew them. Lucky is the child who is an only child or who does not have brothers.
73. Dishonor Killing
ERS ,   Paris, France   (03.11.08)
Unfortunately, neither dishonor killing nor celebration of them is unusual. Ellen R. Sheeley, Author "Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"
74. #71 - I care Simon
Robby ,   San Jose, USA   (03.11.08)
Thanks for the explanation.
75. 13 that's right 4 u it's about honor...not right and wrong
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not truth and lies but some sick concept of honor...
76. 46 Pluralistic does not translate to accomplice
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what you wrote is sick!
77. 63 you are a fool or a liar-either way you are wrong
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78. 71 you seem like a nice man, but misguided
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you may not want to believe that is what Islam is, but in practice my friend, that is exactly what Islam is. Communism was supposed to be kind and sharing but in practice it is cruel and corrupt.
79. to 77 I am not a fool or a liar
sue ,   brooklyn, ny   (03.12.08)
It appears to me that a Moslem who is educated and comes from a good, decent family would not go and kill his sister for honor of the family. This sort of behavior is likely to be found in a community where people are less educated, less cultured and more primitive.
80. The abuse of sisters by brothers of all faiths and no faith
Rivkah   (03.12.08)
is so profound and pervasive that in the State of Maryland there is a law that requires families to have separate bedrooms for sons and daughters. Families that do not follow that law and are reported lose their children to foster care. I suspect the girl who was beaten up and shot by her Moslem brother was at first propositioned by him or refused his sexual advances. In the Bible King David's son Amnon raped his half sister Tamar. Rape is almost as bad as murder and Tamar remained desolate in her brother Absalom's house until he killed Amnon which comforted David. Females need to be sneaky to protect themselves from errant brothers. Pick some mushrooms on hot rainy days and save them for the culprits. It will take days for the poison to take effect and by then it cannot be traced back to a particular meal. Brother needs a liver transplant. Oh, my. Good.
81. 63 Sue: Moderate Moslems kill, too. Just like
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moderate Masons and moderate Mormons and moderate Roman Catholic priests. And a lot of other moderates who belong to religions and/or cults that have a penalty of death for certain acts. Read the book "The Great Controversy" and look at the illustrations. One is an agreement that must be signed by Jesuit Priests to become priests: it is an agreement to kill whoever the church deems an enemy and tells the priest to kill. The killing can be by poisoning or strangulation or any of a number of techniques listed on the document that is held over the priest as a form of blackmail. As for Moslems killing for honor, it happens often even in America. A conversion to another religion is justification for an honor killing, too. At Exeter High School in Exeter, California, a Moslem high school girl was grabbed and kidnapped and raped by three Mexicans as she walked home from school. When she went back to school, her BROTHER walked into the school cafeteria and shot her dead in the head and escaped to a Moslem country. California passed a law after that to protect at risk students in high schools. They can choose to be in an at home school program and go to the school only for tests and assignments OR the at risk students can go to school for three hours a day in ONE classroom with teachers moving from class to class instead of the students. The at risk students do not walk in the hallways, go to the cafeteria, or sports fields or auditorium. The go to one classroom for three hours and then back to the parking lot to go home. Moderate Moslems do kill for honor, but so do a lot of other religions and cults.
82. KHAMZIR SALEH YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM
Dana Wanderer ,   Middle East/ Canada   (03.12.08)
Nowhere in the Quran, NOWHERE does it condone killing one's sister for 'family honour'. This is a bedouin/ tribal tradition that afflicts parts of the Middle East, notably in Jordanian and Palestinian communities. It is also common in Afghanistan and Pakistan, especially in the areas that are under tribal rule. Who are you to speak for 1 billion Muslims about the "true intentions' of our religion? For everything you claim your brand of Islam condones in your attitude towards "infidels and dhimmi's" there are a hundred ayas that speak of tolerance, respect, love and humanity. It is a challenge to read and understand the Quran, it cannot be reduced violent ignorant drivel. Speak for yourself and leave the rest of us out of it.
83. Honor?
Tom ,   Reno   (03.13.08)
Funny what passes for "honor" in some cultures. Some cultures honor protecting your sister, while some honor murdering her.
84. #1
Brad ,   Phoenix, AZ USA   (03.13.08)
Yes, there is an "excuse" for this. It's called the Koran. Look at the hadiths. Mohammed had an unfaithful woman killed (though he was nice enough to allow her to finish weaning her baby). There's precidence for this in Islam. Why do you think so many women in Islam are murdered for honor, yet no other religion kiolls their sisters and daughters? Muslim men have permission from Allah to do it.
85. 84 Brod read 81. Rivkah
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86. Are They Human?
Philip Saenz ,   Houston, Texas USA   (03.14.08)
Why do you insist calling honor murderers human? For sometime I've referred to Muslim honor murderers as "Children of Satan." They are truly satanic creatures without feelings. Hell awaits these creatures of Satan.
87. 63 Sue, Where Is Your Proof?
Philip Saenz ,   Houston, Texas USA   (03.14.08)
63 Sue, you are as sick as the Muslim creatures who murder their daughters or sisters. Where is your proof to what you said? It surprises me that your letter made it to this blog. You are sick, sick, sick.
88. Rivac and Sue
Brad ,   Phoenix, AZ USA   (03.14.08)
When I was younger I'd worked in Kuwait, Egypt and Pakistan - along with several Buddhist and Christian populated countries as an International teacher in private schools. By the time I was offered a position in Saudi Arabia for more money than I'd ever made, I decided I couldn't fathom another Islamic country - one I couldn't even bring my Bible in, and one where a Canadian teacher had just been arrested for walking across a mosque parking lot - the infidel thing on mosque property, you know. The abuses and oppression of women (and any nonMuslim) is so prevalent in Islamic countries that comparing them to other religions or even other countries is absolutely rediculous. I don't know what you're feeling guilty about or sorry for, or if you're simply young and ignorant, but trying to equate other religions to Islam is simply disingenuous and, honestly, untruthful.
89. for all of you who are mixing this terreble crime with all
jim ,   hunting beach   (03.14.08)
Yes, jewish men shoot their sisters all of the time and get congratulated by their other family members,, Right
90. Hey number 12 you are RIGHT!
jim ,   hb calif   (03.14.08)
You are one of the few here that understand the TRUE ISLAM! You obviously have a much better understanding of the Surah,s Hadith,s and Koran verses. These people dont know that Mohammad is the true example for Islam, just as Jesus is the Example for Christians. I am quite sure that Mohamad would approve very much of someone murdering their sister for insubordination just as he murdered and violated the Quresh Tribes of the 7th century, No Problem!!
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