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Jerusalem mother charged with child abuse
Aviram Zino
Published: 06.04.08, 19:30
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1. National Shame
Phillip ,   NYC USA   (04.06.08)
If this is true..... the rabbi needs to be put into prison as well as the mother. How can a mother listen to a rabbi who twlls her to harm her children? How can a rabbi tell a mother to burn her children? What is happening to the faith of our father?
2. Psychopath!
eddie ,   London UK   (04.06.08)
Who is the "rabbi"? another psychopath, or just a figment of her crazed imagination.
3. And why isn't the Rabbi...
Michael ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (04.06.08)
Being extradited for his part in this? I am sure Canada would be happy to give up this deadbeat.
4. How could so many in community
moriah ,   sacramento, USA   (04.06.08)
be involved with this horror? How could so many be so ignorant and willing to raise their hands against innocent children? How? I'm thoroughly and completely horrified that so MANY in the hareidi community acted with such utter stupidity and quiet conspiracy. What rabbi in his right mind would prescribe feeding children feces? This is a complete chillul Hashem! And I don't want to hear about YNET'S bias. There's no excuse -NONE, for what took place in that Jewish home...What a disgrace!
5. what?
fofo   (04.06.08)
god damn this rabbi he doesnt deserve to be a rabbi i think that most of the religious rabbis dont understand anything in religion
6. I do not see the dreaded "H" word
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (04.06.08)
The dreaded "H" word is not used in this article or in the article on Haaretz, who are well known to repeat "Haredi" every other word whenever an Orthodox Jew is accused of a crime. Where is the father in this whole big mess?
7. Disgusting article
Mahlon Drumgoole ,   Newark NJ   (04.06.08)
This article did not need to be printed by YNET because it did no good. The mother was obviously a seriously disturbed woman who consulted a sadistic and even more disturbed psychopathic and fanatic Rabbi. I would hope that the Rabbinical community and law enforcement officials did not know about this evil "Rabbi" and it wasn't a case of authorities acting like the church hierarchy failing to protect children from pedophiac priests. This has no bearing on Rabbis in general and only shows the need for the availability of more mental health resources and supervision of rogue clergymen.
8. These people are INSANE
Aviva ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (04.06.08)
For those who ask, "why didn't the Haredi community get involved" how many of you, if you had a PSYCHOTIC neighbor, would attempt to make friends with whackjobs like these? These people are shunned by the community and rightly so, and even where neighbors call police out of concern for the children, the abuse goes on and on because of the legal system bureaucracy.
9. shame on you, ynet
eliezer ,   jerusalem   (04.06.08)
come on now, why represent some lunatics as being representative of the religious community? this is typical ynet almost news reporting, but rather news selling.
10. It sounds to me like they are trying to plead insanity.
Israel   (04.06.08)
and get off easy, you can bet they are BSing any one who believes this cr@p...
11. It must be understood.
jewish mother ,   jerusalem   (04.06.08)
What must be understood in this case is that these people are an ultra-extreme fringe element that are far outside the scope of influence of even the most ultra othodox rabbis. They are not accepted by any community and exist as pariahs on the edge of society. I actually approached one of the women from this "cult" and it turned out she had converted to Judaism in Germany as penance for the Holocaust. Its a bit like calling polygamist Baptist cults in Texas Christians and expecting the Church to be responsible for their actions. See it for what it is, a disgusting horrific act at the hands of some serious sick and deluded people. Yes, they deserve the worst punishment, but don't make the religious world responsible for them. this would be collective punishment.
12. Public Enemy #1
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (04.06.08)
The news-reading public must be kept in a constant state of agitation and seething against those deemed "enemies of the state," in this case it is the entire religious population of Israel, which is demonized as child abusers, olive tree tramplers, and assassins (this about covers the entire gamut from "Haredi" to "settlers" to "National religious") News articles about Arabs who commit suicide bombings, mass murder, riots, shooting, stabbing, and honor killings, and who dance in the street celebrating these acts, should be toned down because blaming Muslims for that would be, like, racist.
13. # 7's nonsense
Dave ,   San Antonio, USA   (04.06.08)
Nice! If the article did "no good", YNET should not publish it, right?
14. what??
judith ,   tallahassee, usa   (04.06.08)
Are you kidding me? That woman deserves at least 30 years in prison... wth??? They have to find that rabbi and lock them up together.
15. Child abuse and collective punnishment...
Edithann ,   USA   (04.06.08)
#11..Quote:Yes, they deserve the worst punishment, but don't make the religious world responsible for them. this would be collective punishment. Oh, do you think collective punnishment is wrong? So how does Gaza and the Palestinian question grab you as pertains to that 'collective punnishment?
16. Rabbis and exorcism = abused children
Eli ,   Israel   (04.06.08)
This is exactly what one can expect from the lunatic fringe.
17. #7 & 9... What ridiculous talkbacks..
Spinner ,   World   (04.06.08)
You must work for the PR system in Israel. it's to bad that you could not stop this article. It shows a true light of what is going on in the religious jews family. (oh wait...maybe it SHOULD have stated the "H" word!!!) If you read the hebrew version of this article on YNET they actually show what the "mom", if you can call her that, used to beat her children. I would call her and others like her that follow their "religious adviser" like lemmings!! Blindly doing with no thought of their own!!! ALL religions have these people...it's just nice to see YNET state an unadulterated article!!
18. BS I dont beleive it
yoni ,   jerusalem   (04.06.08)
This story is totally fake. nobody would ever give int o such a ridiculous idea and practices that are totally against the torah in a very clear way. I know the family its totally bogus and must be made up in order to cover. How can we conclude evidence and fact based on rumors that the media reports??
19. Horrible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerusalem   (04.06.08)
I hope everyone involved is hunted down and prosecuted to the full extent of the law... it takes really horrible people to do this kind of thing. It's sad....
20. #18
CW   (04.06.08)
Sorry, but you are part of the problem.
21. #18: Except that the story is consistent with Haredi male MO
5th generation ,   Israel   (04.06.08)
to punish others for their own shortcomings. The most ubiquitous example is the exclusion, shaming, shrouding, and subjugation of women because men can't keep it in their pants.
22. #13 and #17: Dave and Spinner
Ignatious Mucklefutz ,   Fargo ND   (04.06.08)
Exactly what is the point of your incomprehensible comments? Do you think that the woman who committed this atrocity was not mentally ill? Do you think that the rabbi was normal and not a sadistic psycho and fanatic? Do you think that all Rabbis are as demented as the one who told the woman to torture her kid? Maybe the two of you need some men tal health help.
23. That is ISRAEL! Do not spoil the land get your red lines &go
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (04.06.08)
24. FIRST OF ALL, DOES ANYONE ................
ALEX COHEN   (04.07.08)
REGARD YNET WITH ANY CREDIBILITY; GIVEN THAT WHEN AN ORTHODOX REPROBATE IS DEEMED CULPABLE FOR TRANSGRESSION, IS THERE A NEWS SOURCE THAT WILL TRAMPLE THE COMPETITION TO GET THE SCOOP AND RUN WITH IT LIKE YNET ? No there's no doubt that "organized" religion STINKS but, can you find a more zealous defamer of the ortodox ? A news source more likely to defame without seeking "the other side" for comment ? A news source more "formula structured" that can always be relied upon to present their agenda with a consistant "balance" irrespective of merit ? YUP, YNET & CNN KINDRED IN AGENDA & DISPIRITING IN CORRUPT TACTICS!
25. #21 WHAT are you talking about?
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (04.06.08)
"exclusion, shaming, shrouding, and subjugation of women" Sounds like Moslems (who will never be condemned by YNet, because it's RACIST) to me, not like any Haredi that I know. BTW according to this article, and others, it's the WOMEN who are committing this abuse. The men are no where to be found. How does that fit in with your little theory?
26. What's happening to some jewish mothers?
(04.06.08)
Last week I read of a mother having relations with her son.
27. #18 Yoni
Fussion ,   Israel   (04.07.08)
If idiocy was a crime you would get a life sentence !
28. Aviva, TRAGICALLY incitefull...................
ANITA WOLF   (04.07.08)
does any one stop to think, what the ramifications are to the Jihadians noting this ?!!!! ARE WE OUR BROTHER'S KEEPER ?
29. OOPS........................................................
Henry Zelig   (04.07.08)
I GOOFED ! I just noticed, the weister did have a hand in this! No wonder ! Who needs the National Enquierer we have ynet !
30. Would ynet have published Alex's............
(04.07.08)
T.B. were it not to contain an apparent back handed sleight on orthodoxy ? It would seem a requirement ! Just as long as no mention is made of Weiss............................................... I KNOW, BECAUSE I AM ALEX ! Anything that undermines G-Dliness is grist for YNET's mill !
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