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Rabbinical court forces woman to divorce over medical condition
Yoram Yarkoni
Published: 17.04.08, 23:01
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31. Fools
Steve   (04.19.08)
I cannot tolerate ignorance foisted upon others by self proclaimed holy men. The greatest impairment I read about in this article is the intelligence and judgment of the Rabbinical Court. I will never confuse God for the ramblings of a few misguided old men.
32. NOT cold-hearted, meds aren't cure all, listen...
Been There ,   USA   (04.18.08)
I know a couple where the wife has Complex-partial epilepsy. On meds since age 3, she even had a baby. Yes, she works, can't drive, their sex life is almost zero, she has a good heart and a pure soul, he loves her, but he's not happy. She can't find words, nor process a conversation without a 3 second lag. Awkward socially, but sweet as can be. Her memory is not good.Symptoms were masked and compensated for during their courtship. Don't judge the husband too much, it's not just 'take a pill and all is ok'. It's not.
33. I wonder what she thinks about the jewish religion now
bershad   (04.19.08)
34. Marriage Vows
Doris Torres ,   NYC USA   (04.19.08)
What happened to in sickness and in health to death do us part?
35. Do they Divorce if Man IS EPILEPSY?
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (04.19.08)
On Good days and on Bad days ... but only of Man's good and bad days not woman's.. So why do not your Rabbis get Woman divorce over 45 years of age, they enter mostly menapouse and cannot give birth to babies they must accept this situation as complete DEFORMITIY as well. By the way in Islam there is no such annoyance, Convert to Muslim and get once your freedom from Rabbies!!
36. #32
Marilyn ,   USA   (04.19.08)
Interesting talkback. You say that the woman has good heart and pure soul. There's something to be said about this. Usually in a great weakness there is also great strength and vice versa in great strengths also great weaknesses. During this time I also think of Moses, who probably had a speech impediment. His first response was send someone else, but G-d provides him someone to help and uses him (and Aaaron) to change the world.
37. 32 Been There: God's people are not called to be happy. They
Rivkah   (04.20.08)
are called to be FAITHFUL. They are called to be faithful to a VOW TO GOD when they married. The Rabbis allowed the man to break the Commandment not to take the Lord's name in vain. That means if you make a VOW (which he did) in God's name, you should keep it or you have taken the Lord's name in vain, a sin. Yeshua allowed divorce for desertion and fornication, but this woman did neither. What her husband needs is another woman like his mother to be near by. When my niece Eugenia's husband Benito wanted to leave the marriage, she saw the need for another woman who could feed his ego in a way she could not: his mother. So they moved back to Texas where his mother lives and the mother butters him up like he is Mr. Wonderful, just to have him around. That kept him in the marriage. Eugenia would be pretty if she lost a ton or two of weight, so Benito needs his skinny mother to give him greater value.
38. Gone back to the Middle Ages?
John ,   Jerusalem   (04.20.08)
It seems that the ultra religious have never left there! Sickening what this man did to the mother of his children. Is this what Judaism really is? Nice call Rabbis. Go join the Taliban!
39. Dayan with Alzhiemer's rule's that epilectics are mutants.
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (04.20.08)
40. Re; #32, Been There - Read the article properly.
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (04.20.08)
He knew about her condition before. The diagnosis itself was questionable. He witnesses one seizure which could have been from anything. Moreover he had been priorly looking for an excuse to divorce the woman. This was just a second attempt using her condition as an axe to grind. Also what is this about no alimony? She gave him two children.
41. RE;#34 - About narriage vows.
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (04.21.08)
Jews do not take on marriage vows. There is a marriage contract.
42. court's ruling is criminal - nothing less
gabriela ben ari ,   jerusalem   (04.21.08)
43. To #33
Mike ,   USA   (04.22.08)
Feelings now about Judaism? Many years ago I suffered from severe depression. I went with my wife to counseling with our Rabbi. He told us taking someone "in sickness and ""health" was not a Jewish concept. We divorced. The Rabbi began dating her and married her. I and my children were very traumatized. I eventually remarried a kind non-religious gentile woman who took me "in sickness and in health" . My children, who are adults now, and I avoid religion and sanctimonious clergy at all costs. I learned a bitter lesson. Never voluntarily give away your power to anyone or anything but especially to so-called "religious authorities". Discarding religion has been a very liberating experience. My ex-wife's punishment is having to live with this cruel selfish rabbi and and all of his obsessive religious rules which take all the joy out of life.Couldn't happen to "nicer" people!
44. Judge not lest ye be judged!
Connie Belrose ,   Hamilton, Canada   (04.24.08)
When the Messiah returns for His bride, should He subject such lawmakers to the fate of their own judgments? When He returns they'd better hope that they are not "shaking" in their boots over their Pharisitical laws lest they themselves be judged to have epilepsy and be cast away from Him.
45. Epilepsy
mark ,   canada   (05.02.08)
And now this. These old crocks live in the outdated middle ages. They are obviously dinos who should have croaked when the rest of them did. Are they Gods representatives on earth, or do they think they are? God himeself would never have done such a thing to another human being. Show me where God gave these loafers the power to do what they do. Then, I won't even comment on the clever people who sit in court judgements. Stupid people who allow such stupid things to go on in their country. BAH-Humbug!
46. My son has epilepsy
Anthony Joseph Ragg ,   New Zealand   (06.26.08)
I find this bizarre ruling inhuman and atrocious. My son has epilepsy, well treated and non-life threatening. He leads a normal life. My heart goes out to this poor woman, but I tell her..she is better off without that schmuck of an ex-husband. As for those 'judges', I say..'what goes around comes around'.
47. Epilepsy & Divorce
Rabbi Arie Chark ,   Ottawa, Canada   (08.13.08)
I am an epileptic. B"H, it's not an acute medical condition for me -- frankly, I've had to overcome so many others issues, the epilepsy took a back seat -- though I do have what we called "spells" when I was a kid. With respect to this divorce, it seems obvious to me that the husband has being seeking grounds for some time and finally chanced upon his wife's epilepsy as a way to get gerushin (divorce). I'd need more information for a psaq din (informed Rabbinic decision) but on the basis of media reports it seems to me that the Rabbinical Court's decision is simply misinformed, wrong, and calculated to drive a further wedge between datim (the observant) and lo datim (the not observant). I would go so far as to suggest that the Rabanut should be dismantled. Israel has surely gone past the point in history where a state-sponsored religious system is useful.
48. IT'S A YNET ARTICLE STUPID !
(10.28.08)
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