"It is doubtlessly a disease, seeing as anything in nature that deviates from the norm is a disease," By this definition Mozart and Einstein were diseased because they deviated from the norm. If the rabbi had studied anything but religion, he would know that homosexuality occurs throughout the animal world. Rabbis have become more than an embarrassment to the Jewish people, they are hindrances to survival. Modern Jews will not return to the culture of the ghetto. The two centuries in Eastern Europe before the Enlightenment were probably the worst in the history of the Jewish people.

the audio of a talk by Ryan Sorba at Framingham State College on his upcoming book, "The Born Gay Hoax" here. http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/

I particularly like how Arussi says some religious respond with violence because they are "shocked, hurt, and offended”. Being called diseased is shocking, hurtful and offensive.

"It is doubtlessly a disease, seeing as anything in nature that deviates from the norm is a disease," wrote Rabbi Ratzon Arussi, referring to homosexual tendencies. I don't even know where to start in rebutting such an asinine statement. The fuzzy language? The fuzzy logic? The crazy implications of such a loopy argument, which would allow us to claim that anyone who is different (including any Jew) is diseased? Rabbi Arussi, with all due respect, I suggest that you save yourself the embarrassment and try not to open your matzah-hole again until you've taken 3rd grade biology, 4th grade history and 5th grade Jewish ethics classes all over again.

I'm so happy that God made me gay. It's a great life and I love it. Toda Hashem.

Orwell was right. The persecuted will become the persecutor.

First They Came for the Gays First they came for the Gays and I did not speak out because I was not Gay. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Originally by Pastor Martin Niemöller revised by ME

because a whole lot of the Hasidim are that's for sure. Which of course brings up the subject of hypocrisy which so many of these rabbis are guilty of. I have a suggestion for the rabbi ... MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS because you haven't a clue what you're talking about and all that will happen is people will see how terribly ignorant you are.

When the sex chrosome has a specific gene, a portion of the hypothalamus is slightly larger and the male has preference for males, not females. This occurs in about one male in ten. When an orthodox Jew does not accept this scientific fact, he is not in contact with reality, and is himself the victim of a mental disorder.

are you attracted to men? no problem, israel can help you fight the disease! seek a specialist and get a cure, if it doesn't help, please shoot yourself before infecting others. thank you

not only do gay people pay more of their salaries than their own ultra-Orthodox comrades, but if not for this contribution, Rabbis wouldn't have a pot to piss in. If they don't like it, they need to leave public office.

and a sucker's sucker.

darkness. and he is working for the governmenr. its a shame 4 our country

In fact, given the way he framed his argument, he couldn't possibly be right, even if he came to the correct conclusion that homosexuality is not a disease. Furthermore, I stupidly wasted 10 mins of my life checking out your link, which led me to a horribly biased "don't-think-tank" dedicated to the noble exercises of gay-baiting and selling copies of Mr. Sorba's book. Small wonder the guy is "packing" auditoriums (of 40 students) at Framingham State College - he can't even get students at a real university riled up enough to take his bait, and, from the audio, it seems like his speech silenced the small room in Framingham through sheer stupidity and ignorance.

And just how successful is the good Rabbi's "therapy" 100%? 50%? 1%? Any deleterious side effects to the therapy (like suicides, severe depression, migraine headaches)? How many has the good Rabbi treated? 100? 10? 1? Where did he get his credentials to treat? Self proclaimed, or is he peer reviewed for this therapy of his? Just asking, since these are questions I would ask as a real physician, who treats real diseases. Guys, watch out, this guy is BAD news!

Listening to the first 10 minutes is listening to the least important part of the talk. If you weren't so biased in favor of homosexuality, you would have had the patience to listen to what he says for the whole talk. But, like all GLBT wierdos, you really can't tolerate a presentation that says anything other than the crap you want to make everyone believe.

He tells us to listen to Ryan Sorba. Who is Ryan Sorba? Ryan Sorba, an ISI Campus Representative at Cal State-San Bernardino. What is ISI? A right-wing cuckoo bird organization. Among the directors are a couple of Regnerys of the right-wing Regenery Press and M. Stanton Evans, a well known right-wing commentator. An honorary trustee is one of the Coors family, financers of the right-wing in this country for decades.

Finally someone smart has spoken! Homosexuality is a disease and failure of nature. It is the same as any other diseases a person might be born with, such as the down syndrom. I don't know whether there is any way to treat it, but sooner or later it will be developed, and I hope it will be soon and those poor people will finally be cured!

he is far from ignorant. However YNet and other secular media are unable , unwilling and deliberately so to translate his meaning into everyday speach. This is sadly the common tactic of the secular media in respect of anything said by Rabbis. Those raging against him should pause and understand his intent.

Baruch Hashem that He has protected us (the Gay community) from you right wing crazies. Please take some Anthropology courses, some Linguistic Courses and some Biology courses you fucking idiots...being Gay is not a choice, it is not a disease, and it is nothing to be ashamed about...we died with you and next to you at the camps, visit Yad Vashem while you're at it and then, after your done, clean out your own houses.

live here because they are Jews and by being a Jew it is IMPLICIT hossexuality is an ABOMINATION. It is clearly stated in the Torah that a man can not lie with another man as if he was a woman. Again,we MUST BE COHERENT,and not only pick up what is convinient. The author is right:gays must be treated and or HIDE their perverssion. They can also live in a country where this is valorizated.They can live in Brasil,for example,BUT NOT IN ISRAEL! Sooner or later must come a govt. that is not going to permit such things being elevated to the category of nornal because THEY ARE NOT!

1." bastards born as a result of illicit relations, who could never marry according to halacha." in my years of living on this earth, I have never seen G-d and Salvation at sleep. The Lrd G-d of Yisrael is the the Lrd of Salvation, and Gays, memsers are not a subject of discrimination in the Lrd sight,they are also a subject of liberation. Rabbis please dont go on a witch -hunt spree, Homosexual Jew are still very much a jew.Bisexual Jews are very much a jew.Lesbians Jews are very much a jew.Today in Israel and around the world there are many kind of jews... assimilated Jews, ALL KIND OF Jews name it .....! I have been thinking about thIS homosexual issue, I have come to a conclusion, this judgement should be left between the homosexuals and G-d. What have the rabbis of halakah have to say to B Sanh 99a..." the day of vengenance is in my heart, and the year of my Redemption is come" ( Isa 63:4). What is meant by the day of vengeance is in my heart "? What what is the meaning , according to Rabbi Yohannan ..." I HAve revealed it to my heart but not to my limbs. And according to R ,Simeon ben Lakish, G-d said, i revealed it to My heart, but not to the ministering angels.????. Do you Rabbis want to beat the Homosexuals and the memsers too ? THINK ! There is no Law on this earth that compels one to seek treatment if he /she dosent WANT TO BE TREATED. And if they do, please ensure that you Rabbis have the experts in such field.I know of cases these poor children been droven into clinical depression and their state became worst IN ISREAL.IT IS A SUBJECT OF ABUSE BY RABBIS WHO CLAIM TO HAVE EXPERTISE TO TREAT HOMOSEXUALS. PLEASE THINK ! KOBI NASHSHONI - MAYBE YOU SHOULD WRITE ON THE ABUSE OF HOMOSEXUAL AND MEMSERS TOO- THAT IS IF YOU ARE A TRUE JEW !!! EXPOSE THIS WITCH- HUNTING ACTS.

The Rabbi should be treated for arragant intolerance. He is the sick one.

they live around the corner from Adam and Eve, you freak.

hag sameach to all my flurries out there

Anything that deviates from the norm in nature is a disease? You mean like that diseased genius Einstein. His intelligence was a disease because it was not the norm? Someone should put him in a corner with a dunce cap to teach him a lesson. Or Michael Jordan. His diseased beyond the norm skills needed rehabilitation and therapy? Someone call him to make him give those championships back. Or as simple as blue eyes or left-handedness. Neither in the norm in nature. Should we poke out some eyes and chop off some hands? I'm 6 feet tall, but the "norm" size for women is 5'6" Which doctor should I see to cure me? This idea is so unintelligent, it's really remarkable. Anyone supporting it should really be embarassed. Really.

I am gay and belong to a gay Synagogue in chicago. There are many such congregations and organizations all over the world. We are proud Jews who want to carry on the Jewish traditions.

His intentions may be good and pure. However, the problem is that even good and pure intentions have (as history shows) to eugenics, for example. The rabbi suggests "cure". What cure? electro shock therapy? suicide? what is his "cure"? So far, there is NOT ONE CREDIBLE peer-reviewed study showing that homosexuality is treatable, although psychiatrists and medical doctors had tried curing it for many years. Where is this rabbi pulling out his therapy and what does it consist of?