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IDF says did not hit Beit Hanoun house
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 02.05.08, 15:57
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31. #28 observer
meg ,   Israel   (05.02.08)
Do you mean that at last Israel has learnt how to put over propaganda from the Palies!!!
32. #26, #28 & #29 - YOU'RE DISMISSED
GZLives   (05.02.08)
Foreign Country? You mean foreign country firing rockets everyday into Israeli cities don't you? And do you know what any other country in the world would do given the same circumstances Jim from Buffalo? You're dismissed ... next up is "Observer" with his personal spin completely ignoring the Paliwood reputation for creating reality - like fuel shortages and blackouts and walking corpses, and fake shootings. We're on you and your ilk "Oberver" - Go back to Londonistan where we know you're from ... YOU'RE DISMISSED ... Next up Salah with the same old line "Its the Occupation Army" of course. Hmmmm but wasn't the Egyptian Army occupying Gaza for almost 20 years Salah? Did you ever care? Did you ever fire rockets into Egypt? And needless to say THERE IS NO OCCUPATION OF GAZA ... so Salah ... YOU'RE DISMISSED. We're on to all of you bashers. WE laugh at your BS. Your attempt to defend this crap. Its only a matter of time before the IDF makes sure the rockets stop for good and you have nothing more to defend and no more to lie about. Our only crimes are allowing this to fester this long and not dealing with it like every other country in the world would deal with it. But thankfully, in recent years as you can see from these talkbacks, most of us now understand what needs to be done. However having said that, I'm sure the IAF will still drop leaflets before the swamp is drained ...
33. #31 No, Israel has been very honest
observer   (05.02.08)
in admitting using shells in civilian areas. Israel has gone a further step in admitting targeting confirmed explosives in populated area, as well.
34. IDF and Gaza family
alan ,   Texas   (05.02.08)
IDF and Israel MUST stop apologizing. That's what gets into the media. Blame the arabs from the outset and they will be correct 99.9% of the time. If the arabs stopped fighting from civilian areas, no civilians would be killed, but that wouldn't help their victimology PR. Arabs like it wen their civilians are killed. They cry to the world, but dance when Israelis are murdered.
35. #32 very nice
Tamir ,   Los Angeles   (05.02.08)
Extremely well said. There are the same talking heads on this site which will continue to use backwards logic and half-truths to conjur up sympathy for a cause which by now is growing more and more ridiculous. Personally I just continue to read these and shake my head in disbelief but we all know by now to what measures these people will go to in order to continue their path of destruction and terror. My last thought is this: may peace come one day to Israel and the jewish people. This will never happen if we lay down and surrender but only with strength of conviction and faith in one another. God bless Israel and the jewish people!
36. observer if you are such smart ass to cliam about this video
(05.02.08)
you said they circulated it. Can you give link to the old use. If you can not then it mean that you are liar.
37. To # 29 Jim in Buffalo
Marty ,   Toronto Canada   (05.02.08)
Firing missiles into a civilian neighbourhood in a foreign country. That sounds vaguely familiar - as in terrorists in Hammastan firing missiles at S'derot and Ashkelon. It's war. If the Gazan terrorists would stop firing rockets and engaging in terrorist acts against Israel and directed their efforts into more productive activities like repairing the infrastructure in Gaza or growing vegetables to feed their fellow citizens of Gaza instead of engaging in terrorist activities, no doubt the IDF would leave them alone.
38. #15 - Right! The same thing happened.....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (05.02.08)
your people lied about it and blamed the IDF! The leaders you choose are the "killers." They kill your own, they kill us and they hide in civilian popualtions like roaches.
39. Cause and Effect
Jerrold Cohen ,   Seal Beach, USA   (05.02.08)
So the IAF admits firing a missile at a resistance fighter, and the ammo carried by the resistance fighter blows up and kills four kids. IF THE IAF AIRPLANE HAD NOT FIRED ITS MISSILE, THOSE CHILDREN WOULD BE ALIVE. Conclusion: the IAF caused and is responsible for the deaths of four Palestinian children.
40. EvenKamal{Gaza resident)agrees they fight from civilian area
Alan ,   SA   (05.02.08)
41. the real video
(05.02.08)
that has been going on and on and on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=user
42. Firing missiles
Jim ,   Buffalo, NY   (05.02.08)
But Marty, as you probably know, Hamas tried just this, from early 2005 until June 2006, during its hudna. How did Israel respond? By continuing to assassinate its leaders and, in June 2006, by shelling the Ghaliya family, who were engaged in a terrorist picnic on the terrorist beach. Seven died. Oh, I know: it was the explosion of a buried Palestinian bomb--no doubt brought in the night before, in a backpack. And incidentally, it is not war: it is occupation and war crimes by the occupying power. War requires two nations, and a Palestinian nation requires Israel's complete exist from Palestine.
43. The New fortification
Psalms 83 ,   Selah   (05.02.08)
A terrorist that is willing walk around with an explosive belt straped to him so that if he is struck by israeli munitions and if he is near civilians in his nieghborhood there will be muliple casualties . Guarenteed Blackeye for the israelis in the international press. the international press will never cite that it is a war crime to intentionaly put civilans at risk for the protection of the combatant..... the israeli military does its best to minimize the colateral damage but it can not be held responsible for a situation that is intentionaly set up to maximize the death and injury to civilians .
44. to 33
tFighterPilot   (05.02.08)
So, what do you expect the IDF to do? Kindly ask the terrorist to move to open ground so they can be killed? Please, return to lalaland and leave us alone.
45. 4 years ago today
Leah   (05.02.08)
A young Jewish mother in her eighth month of pregnancy and her 4 young daughters were driving in the family car along a road inside the Gaza Strip. When suddenly out of nowhere, gunshots rang out disabling the vehicle and causing it to swerve off the road. Seconds later, two heavily armed men ran up to the car, shot the heavily pregnant mother first in the head then pointed the gun at her stomach and shot the unborn baby to ensure it did not survive. They then turned their guns on the 4 traumitized little children, who had just witnessed the brutal murder of their beloved mother, shooting them each in the head several times at point blank range. They continued shooting even after the mother and her children were long dead emptying the clips into their lifeless bodies, it took the Zaka workers several hours to complete the grim task of scraping up the blood and body parts of the deceased victims. Not long after these beastly murders occurred, several terror gangs including Hamas democratically elected by the Palestinian people 2 years later, called several press agencies boasting of responsibilty for the massacre of this beautiful family. Most of the Palestinian media praised the killings as "heroic". The official Palestinian Authority radio station " Voice of Palestine" referred to the murders as an act of "heroic martyrdom" and called the victims a pregnant woman and her 4 young daughters one of whom was an infant in a babyseat "settler terrorists".
46. Re:45. 4 years ago today
Psalms 83 ,   Selah   (05.02.08)
Thank you for sharing it ...hopfuly it will remind those are from the international press to keep thier reporting fair and unbiased....
47. Marty, #42, in Buffalo, way wrong
Dennis ,   NYC, USA   (05.03.08)
Marty, #42, your jaundice is showing. Hamas, a terrorist org., openly admits its hundas are strategic lulls. Targeting Hamas's leaders has by any reasonable measure paid off, on several different levels, in reducing its terrorism. "It's not war"? "It's occupation"? Bulls--t. Israel pulled out of Gaza and thousands of rockets/mortars have rained on Israel since. (And before '67, i.e., pre-"occupation," Palis and fellow Arabs infiltrated into Israel "proper" and murdered by knife and bomb some 500 Israelis over a decade. Why, then, the terror? Or are Israelis, especially Israeli civilans, on whom Hamas's rockets rain, by definition born "Occupiers" in your distorted anti-Jewish -- yes, anti-Jewish -- world view? War crimes? Again, bull. Read the rules and conventions of war; you obviously don't know them. "War requires two nations"? Traipse down here, to the NYC WTC site, from your Buffalo citadel and tell my dead friends' and co-workers' loved ones that it wasn't war, but rather some sort of unique urban incident, that engulfed us by the thousands in carnage. Play those sorts of word games here, and you'll get shredded like a head of lettuce.
48. and now we will see why it is a waste of time
Danny   (05.03.08)
because everyone who rushed to blame Israel, will carry on.
49. #41 and that is relevent how?
Danny   (05.03.08)
Wierd that the 4 foreigners killed by Israelis gets coverage but the 35 foreigners killed by Palestinians - all civilians MILES from any combat zone, unlike the three examples given here - don't merit any coverage....
50. Feed each other BS
Jared ,   Stillwater   (05.03.08)
Keep fooling yourselves. Few months from now the IDF will say, upon further investigation, it was our unexploded shell that blow up seven min later. I just love the "3 meters about 9.8 feet" evidance is trageting US citizens.
51. To #42 Jim in Buffalo
Marty ,   Toronto Canada   (05.03.08)
There is no occupation. Israel fully withdrew from Gaza. There must be something in that Lake Erie water that comes out of the tap in Buffalo that causes halucinations. As far as a Hudna. We all know that Islam defines "Hudna" as a temporary truce to allow "true believers of the religion of peace" to build up their strength until they are able to defeat the enemy and then the "Hudna" is over. Like the truce between Hitler and Stalin that ended with Operation Barbarosa when Hitler declared the end of his "Hudna". Jim how would you like it if people in Ft Erie Ontario were lobbing rockets on a daily basis into Downtown Buffalo NY? A few years ago I might have said it would be an improvement but now that all of that urban renewal has taken place...
52. Well duh!!!
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (05.03.08)
Everyone knows missiles don't kill bystanders!
53. is Israel justifying terrorists' suicidal bombing?
observer   (05.03.08)
They aimed at military, but had a bykill bonus of civilians. At least they are now dead and couldn't defend their inaccurate acts.
54. It seems like INTERNATIONAL PRESS either condons the use...
Psalms 83 ,   Selah   (05.03.08)
...of human sheilds or they are turning a blind eye to it ... to embrace thier own politcal bias. in any case they are equily guilty of the inocent victims deaths.
55. IDF = Neutral !!!
Ali ,   Gaza   (05.03.08)
56. #51; Occupation
Jared ,   Stillwater   (05.03.08)
No occupation of Gaza = BLOCKADE. What about the West Bank?
57. #49, Danny, slight difference
GUH   (05.03.08)
These four foreigners (and others) are among Israel's closest allies, the United States and Britain; I don't think the foreigners you speak of are that friendly to Palestinians. Anyway, this "investigation" was just as I predicted it to be: another farce. The video does not really prove anything at all in fact.
58. lookit! people fighting on the internet!
(05.04.08)
lookit! people fighting on the internet!
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