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Neo-Nazis for Israel
Eldad Beck
Published: 04.06.08, 12:35
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1. With "friends" like this...
Michael ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (06.04.08)
Who needs enemies? I think we can do very well without "friends" or supporters of this ilk, thank you very much.
2. Hitler is spinning in his grave...
John ,   Europe   (06.04.08)
3. Is'nt it
bar ,   Israel   (06.04.08)
that they hate muslims more than Jews ? That's what i always say . Look at the "sympathic" views towards Israe and the Jews expressed by filip de Winter , Flemish extreme right party leader .
4. OR they want to encourage emigration from their own country
Global Citizen ,   Israel & USA   (06.04.08)
5. There are to kinds of neo-nazis
Suzanne   (06.04.08)
The ones who take nationalism very seriously and believe every nation should have their own nation and that those nations should be 'pure'. And the ones who are hard-core nazis of the current era who despise everyone else but themselves as they believe they belong to a superior race. These neo-nazis are clearly belonging to the first group.
6. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Stewart ,   USA   (06.04.08)
7. HaHaHa - Happy Birthday Guys
Chocko ,   NY, USA   (06.04.08)
8. GOOD GRIEF!!!!
Talula ,   Israel   (06.04.08)
9. Hate is the name of the game
Enzo ,   london,uk   (06.04.08)
They still hate Jews. But today they hate Muslims more...! Stay away from these people!!!
10. WOW! If neo-Nazis can become pro-Israel,
Daniel Pinner ,   Kfar Tapuach, Israel   (06.04.08)
maybe the next stage will be that Ahmadinejad will start supporting us - and after that the PLO and the Hamas will become pro-Israel. And then even Peace Now and Women in Black might start supporting Israel...no no no, that's too absurd!
11. #6 the enemy of my enemy...
M. ,   Israel   (06.04.08)
I think you nailed it with this expression. Some neo Nazis have been known to look up to Israel yet down at Jews in Europe. Now they hate the Moslames more than the Jews and Arab nations do not represent power and strength as Israel does to these people....it is actually not suprising that they hail to Israel - Israel reprsents streangth (even if I would disagree with them on that in regards to our current government). No one said they were that well infomred after all...
12. Of course they're left-wing provocateurs
Millie ,   Israel   (06.04.08)
Nazi stands for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). Scum is scum.
13. ACTUALLY - LISTEN TO THEM CAREFULLY
Andrew ,   Miami,FL   (06.04.08)
EUROPE IS GOING TO EXPLODE SOON - AND A NEW HOLOCAUST WILL HAPPEN TO THE MOSLEMS AND AFRICANS... START WATCHIG FOR THE RHETORIC THAT WILL BE THE PRECURSER... "THE JEWS DIDNT DESERVE IT...THAT WAS THE GREAT TRAGEDY...THESE MOSELMS AND BLACKS WHO RAPE OUR WOMEN (WITH LOTS OF CRIME STATS TO PROVE IT - SADLY) DESERVE IT...SO IT WILL BE OK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THEY ARE JUST FINE WITH THE JEWS OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY AND BACK WHERE THEY SHOULD BE - ISRAEL
14. nothing new here
Charles   (06.04.08)
just look at the Vlaams Belang or the Italian right NOT anti semitic and definitely pro Israel
15. Are you all stupid?
Gary   (06.04.08)
Of course it is leftwing provocateurs thrying to associate Zionism with Nazism as these legty bastards always do. The lefties have tried these tricks before, including a fake website purporting to be by "National Zionists" and juxtaposing the swatka with the magen david. If you cannot identify who these people are, you know it is leftist propagandists trying tro demonize Israel and Zionist Jews again. The anti-Israel Left and the Moslems are the Nazis of today.
16. #1
mark ,   ca   (06.04.08)
" enemy of my enemy is my friend":-)
17. Anti-Moslem not pro Israel. Enemy of my enemy is my friend
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (06.04.08)
18. Is this a stunt that Chanalau pulled?
Jake   (06.04.08)
19. It is not the far right that aims to complete Hitler's work
Gary   (06.04.08)
today by eradicating Israel and it's five million Jews. It's the Moislems and their filthty leftwing scumbag cheeerleaders
20. Nothing to do with muslims
Jens ,   Germany   (06.04.08)
This is just a trick to get rid of the holocaust: The Nazis tried it with denying, but that didn't work and so they are taking the bull by the horns. Nobody will vote them as long as they are connected to the holocaust, so they want to tell us that they are no anti-semites anymore and support Israel. I have never heard such a mad nonsense in my life! This is all about the dangerous equation, that Hitler without the holocaust is not such a bad idea after all. Nothing to do with muslims.
21. No nation can be defined by racial purity
Jake   (06.04.08)
And this is the fundamental evil associated specifically with German Nazism from Day 1: An attempt to define Germany and Germanism by virtue of fuzzy biology and racial purity mythology. All nations were formed by the virtue of a union of various tribes, followed by the absorption and co-opting of other disparate peoples in the area. Britain was formed by the melting together of Anglosaxons, Celts, Normans, Vikings, and more recently the peoples from British colonies. Russia was formed by a combination of Slavs, Vikings, Finns, a long list of Turkic peoples, Mongols, and Siberian natives. During the golden age of the Roman Empire, there were several emperors of foreign extraction, including Arabs, Moors, Syrians, and others from the provinces. Titus' second in command, the Praetorian Prefect (Chief of Staff of the Roman military), was an Egyptian Jew. This is the reality of nation building and the destiny of all nations, large and small.
22. Radical Islam and Liberals
K ,   United States   (06.04.08)
Radical Islam an Islamic form of Nazism... however, the REAL neo-nazis are not these "German Nationalists or Skinheads" - but rather - the New Age Liberals in Western Society --- lead by the UNITED NATIONS -- whose ultimate goal is to create a one world religion that fuses Paganism, Christianity, Islam, Eastern Religions -- in other words --- kind of what Hitler wanted but without an accent on blond hair and blue eyes --- of course - Judaism and Zionism would have to be wiped out first in order to achieve these goals
23. Nazis are natural allies with Palestine
Joe ,   Tel Aviv   (06.04.08)
After all, the Arabs in Palestine sided with the Nazis in WWII. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the leader of the Muslim SS. There are historical ties between the two. There are (or were) even former Nazis who were members of the PLO.
24. It's all a trick
Betzalel ,   Balto   (06.04.08)
They are using this as a way of proving that "Zionism=Nazism".
25. Same in Russia
Alex ,   Moscow, Russia   (06.04.08)
There is a minor group of Russian Nazis with similar views. They'd like to see Russian Jews in Israel, not in graves. They deem Israel as their ally in fighting the Muslim threat. There is a larger group however, who think favorably of first cooperating with the Muslims to exterminate the Jews and then getting rid of the Muslims in Russia. And, out of all marvels, there are anti-Jewish Nazis in Israel too, aren't they?
26. All nazis are left wing by definition
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (06.04.08)
Read out the full name of the party. Especially note the word Socialist being part of that name.
27. This article should be ringing alarm bells all over Europe
Ruvy ,   Israel   (06.04.08)
This article should be viewed as fair warning to Moslems in Europe. There is a movement that will break out like an earthquake there, as Europeans finally sicken of the "Eurabia" deal they made a decade or two ago. This strange bunch is just the whiff of a volcano of hatred and resentment that will erupt there.
28. Another theory
Soeren ,   Cologne/Germany   (06.04.08)
I guess, these neo-Nazis first of all admire "strength" and also "heroism". Furthermore they like "clear frontieres" ("WE against THEM") and have a deep contempt for "all this mixing of black and white, plus homosexuals, women etc." – and for what they see as "cult of weakness" that they connect with leftist thinking. In fact, I think, they have a problem to accept their own weakness (as some appeasing leftists have a problem with the projection of power and strength) – and therefore sometimes fight it in others. In military terms Israel is one of the most "clear" states in the Western world – out of its security situation of course. Compare that to the extreme restraint shown by German soldiers in Afghanistan who are even not allowed to kill a murderous Taleban terrorist other than in self defense: in fact they had to let him go. I guess this special type of neo-Nazis may like the Israeli toughness and determination when fighting terrorists. Perhaps they can quite good accept the "strong male Israeli fighter" as they might see him. Finally, I think that they see Islam in Europe as biggest threat, and their "project" of fighting Islam gains no ground: They are discredited because of their antisemitism. So maybe this group decided to let antisemitism go for their bigger goal – to build an alliance against Islam... maybe even with a "now acceptable Jewish state"...(??) Perhaps a bit like "British National Party"...?! I guess their attitude has not so much to do with justifying past – but is meant more as a strategic approach for the future. Just another interpretation.
29. #22
Michael ,   NYC USA   (06.04.08)
Very interesting. We don't hear much about the the anti-religion, anti-Israel types on the left you describe, but you do sound spot on. M
30. hmm
Gustavus ,   Canada   (06.05.08)
I don't think the anti-Israel LEFT - needs such gimmiks to equate Zionism with Nazism..... Most of the time, Liberals don't need any real proof to accuse Zionists of every evil under the sun. It is clear that Europe may not survive this latest Muslim invasion.... Israel is at the front lines in this clash of civilizations.... IT"S VERY VERY SAD - that so many "good" (but misguided) people in the west - choose not to support the Jewish State - while Neo-Nazis actually have a better perspective on things..... sad, sad, sad :(
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