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Defeated and pathetic
Orly Azoulay
Published: 05.06.08, 09:36
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31. The author of this story is clearly brain dead.
Gary A. MD ,   Boston MA, USA   (06.05.08)
The only pathetic thing that I've seen lately is this story.
32. Give it a rest Orly, Hillary put up a great fight.
S Judah ,   London   (06.05.08)
really great whatever you think. It was equally thoughf for her as a Woman trying to achieve a breakthrough . And don't forget Obama is not black, he is Coffee with milk. He has a white mother.
33. 2. Lo Tova - what are you talking about?
S Judah ,   London   (06.05.08)
All three candidates support the State of Israel. What are you bringing Isim into the debate for. Unless you are a Satmar who misunderstands the 3 oaths. Zionists and Anti Zionist Jews all support one common Isim and that is Judisim. They all support the state even if they argue about is nature.
34. "Pathetic" is Too Kind...
Robert ,   New Jersey, USA   (06.05.08)
...a moniker for a woman of blind ambition in a marriage of convenience with another political animal sharing a covenant to rule the world and bring to fruition the frustrated hopes of her mentor, Chicago Marxist-anarchist Saul Alinsky. For this snake, "pathetic" is way too kind. That word implies an object of pathos. Anyone in the US not stuck on stupid for the past eighteen years has figured this woman out. Creature of opportunism, she has managed to fool enough Americans and ride the coattails of the aspirations of millions of women to break through a perceived glass ceiling. But her morally bankrupt character could not be hidden for long and she self-destroyed. Her supporters still are in denial of their monumental mistake in choosing to hitch their collective wagon to such a falling star. America IS ready for a woman president. Just not THIS woman! And for that matter, ready for a black president. But not THIS black. Clinton's ideological classmate Obama, of the selfsame Chicago Marxist school run by Communist union organizer Saul Alinsky solidified his Communist-Socialist credentials in Hawaii under the tutelage of Frank Marshall (http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/). He also maintains an incestuous ideological relationship with other Chicago fellow travelers such as domestic terrorist William Ayers, his wife Bernardette Dohrn, just-convicted political fraudster Tony Rezko, and the fascist minister of the Chicago Trinity UC Church, Reverend Wright and their recent honored guest Catholic priest Pfleger. Obama's politically expedient decision to leave the church will not absolve him of the 20 year ties he had and now tries to reverse, much like his recent 180 degree turnaround on negotiating with Iran's Ahmadinejad. Yes, the two front runners of the Democrat Party are two stealth peas from the same smelly pod. The news media will try to bury this frightening fact but they will not be able to control the release of facts as they once were able to do. Just ask John Kerry! The US IS ready to elect a woman or a black. The US is not ready to elect THIS woman nor THIS black. WHAT is truly "pathetic?" The Dem's 2008 choices.
35. Wrong. Clinton is a tenacious fighter.
Jake   (06.05.08)
and her career is just beginning. I believe one day she will be president. Israel's leaders should learn from Hillary's non-defeatism. And concerning Hillary and Israel, just read #2 and everything is revealed.
36. Defeated, yes. Why? Pride, and pride comes before a fall.!!
clinton supporter ,   usa   (06.05.08)
37. What, no Billary?"Happy days are here again the skies above
are clear again..." ,   JFK, DC   (06.05.08)
38. The Obama people should have a rally of their own on
Saturday at the same ,   time as hers!!!   (06.05.08)
39. #9 What about your ELS bible prediction bout Billary being
prez? Throw that ,   damn book away!!   (06.05.08)
40. I am proud of her.
Hillary supporter ,   Houston, TX   (06.05.08)
I have to say that John Edwards was my first choice for this primary and the 04 primary. Like many canidates that are not strong enough for a Presidential campaign, he dropped out. We finally had somebody who stood up for what she wanted and did not back down. She has been the underdog the whole campaign, with financial support and media support. She has had to hear that she should just hand the nomination over, but she did not. For that, in my mind, makes her strong. I have much more respect for her that she decided to not drop out.
41. #40 Edwards, Hillary?You just keep picking loosers don't u?
Jimmah Carter ,   Georgia   (06.05.08)
42. #40 Hillary defeated herself. Her campaign squandered her
Lynn ,   McCain supporter   (06.05.08)
millions on tv attack ads in the wrong states. They never sent their staff out to campaign in the all important caucas states. Hillary reiled on her dilusional mind set that all of America loved her and Bill and would bow down and worship them and elect her to her life long quest of being president. But much like Leona Helmsley, she forgot that her and Bill had made many enemies along the way that were just waiting for the right moment to stick it to them, and stick it to them they did. Billary thought that she should be able to play by her own set of rules. A mistake most meglamaniacs often make. And she had a ball and chain attached to her that she would never be able to get rid of. Which I suppose is her own fault for looking the other way while he had his way with whoever just so she could rely on his charm, his reputation and his ability to move and sway a crowd so much better that she could. I for one am happy that someone else had the ability to let the air out of the ever growing swelled heads of Billary. And all it took was one sharp Junior Senator, and a black one at that. He is to be commended for his acheivement. Who knew it would be so easy?!! And jus to let you know, I am not a democrat, so I will not be voting for either candidate. But if I was, Billary NEVER would have gotten my vote. She got bad press cause her and her husband displayed who and what they really were all about. And when the masks began to come off, well we just didn't like what we saw.
43. GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBISH, REMEMBER SHE FAVORS THE ARABS
David ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.05.08)
During her husbands turn, she constantly and vociferously support Arafat and all those murderers. Why any sane Jew would vote for this ego-maniac is beyond me. Please all of you pathetic people that love to live the beaten spouse life, get some therapy. What, you think that we Jews need to continue to suffer like in the worst days of Pogroms? I say to you, all of you and Hillary, go to he##!
44. #34 ROBERT: EXCELLENT!!
Imperator ,   USA   (06.05.08)
45. 42 Lynn: Almost all US Presidents have had mistresses.
(06.05.08)
Women who are married to prominent males have them on a long leash, not a short one. Maybe such women are able to love a man inspite of his faults and expect less. Laura Bush has threatened to leave George Bush over Condoleeza Rice, it has been written. Jimmy Carter admitted in Playboy Magazine he had adultery in his heart with other women. King David stumbled with Bat-sheva, but God brought good from that after the death of the first child: Solomon and Nathan were Bat-Sheva's sons. Solomon became king and Nathan is in the geneology of Yeshua.
46. If Hillary got elected, she would appoint Bill to negotiate
Shlomo ,   Israel   (06.05.08)
a so called peace deal with Hamas and Abbas which really would amount to a massive land give away by Israel. This would save Bills tarnished reputation and would make him look like a world leader and healer which is what he coveted while he was in the White House. The Clintons are NO friend of Israel. Their quest to have the spot light on them all the time would overwhelm them in making any wise and good decision where Israel is concerned. We've been down this road once before with the Clintons, and I for one have never forgotten it, nor am I willing to let it happen again. Her pride(their pride) got in the way of what was really important, and I for one am glad she(they)lost the primary. Hashem was watching over us in this.
47. #45 Rivkah, do you think we cannot tell when you write???
Eyes on You ,   Washington DC   (06.05.08)
48. Hillary
Marilyn ,   USA   (06.05.08)
In this case, she perhaps could not win enough of the woman's vote because she didn't show enough of her feminine side (although there were exceptions to this). However in terms of a general candidate she did very well. No one's going to fault her for not giving up hope.
49. Hillary 2012
fed ,   usa   (06.05.08)
She is hoping for Mccain to win the election, while paying lip service to Obama and the democratic party. She hopes Mccain will be a flop and she will run again, and hopefully lose.
50. 47: Sometimes I hit the submit dot before typing in my name.
OOPS.   (06.05.08)
Then I say, OOPS. Too late. If I don't type my name in first, sometimes I forget. Hey, Omri, how come you deleted your Facebook profile when I asked you to contact me? Four's a crowd? You had three female fans, but did not want me to ask some questions?
51. Inappropriate
David ,   Jerusalem   (06.05.08)
Is this really the tone you want to set for public, political discourse? Is this what responsible journalists do? Is it your aspiration to pander to the least common denominator and engender polarized, acrimonious, mean spirited expression? We could use more civility, more reason, and more insight in the public sphere. Printing garbage like this only serves to facilitate anger and bad character traits, not wisdom and understanding of the issues at hand.
52. #50 Rebecca, just remember 20 more days.!
Irmo ,   Israel   (06.06.08)
53. Nonsense! Hillary went down fighting!
Christy ,   Boston, US   (06.06.08)
I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I give her credit for fighting on until the end. It was obvious, watching the type of coverage she received, that our so-called liberal press aren't so liberal after all. She was demeaned in the press, just as in this article, in a way no man ever would be!
54. 52: Then you can talk to me after 29 months?
Rebecca   (06.06.08)
Oh, joy. Do I get to visit Abba? Or just talk to you?
55. 52 Irmo: Guess what? The Isaac Newton Bible Code Society
Rebecca   (06.06.08)
at www.biblecodedigest.com found the word President with Obama. The codes on McCain and H.Clinton were much more flattering than for Obama who had code words like swindle, probably since he swindled the nomination from Hillary by getting her delegate count from Florida and Michigan cut in half. What does that mean? It probably means Obama will cut a better deal with the Mafia dons who own the US Presidential voting machines. Author and bible scholar Hal Lindsey says the Mafia owns the US Presidential election voting machines.
56. 47,52 "Indi": Are you going back into the IDF to make a name
R.   (06.06.08)
for yourself in that field or did you lose that title, too? It will be such a relief for the oppressions to be at an end for you and your family. Today, there was a wierd feeling in my brain which may be a side effect from some OTC chemo for a tumor on my foot. Abba could make it well if you let me see him. He has such a healing gift from the Lord. I ran out of money so your family will have to help if you want me to visit Israel again. We are $195,000. in debt now with the mortgages. 31 years of paying on mortgages and no equity to show for it. As Job said, he "came into this world naked and he would return naked. Blessed be the name of the Lord." There are blessings to take with us when we die and the mercy of God. Wouldn't it be a kick if I died before Abba and was there to greet him when he comes home to the heavenly Jerusalem?
57. attention US jews: Obama endorsed by Chanalau #2
Aaron ,   Ra'anana   (06.06.08)
and other haters of Israel including Carter, Hamas, Brignewski, Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson the long awaited endorsements by Nashrallah and Bin Laden could be around the corner ANNOY THE TERRORISTS: VOTE MCCAIN !
58. 57 Aaron...But what a show it would be to watch Michelle
Rivkah   (06.06.08)
Obama duke it out with Ophrah Winfrey over Barak in the White House. It would be like Jaqueline Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe or Laura Bush and Condoleeza Rice over Jack and George. Graham Stedman who has been Ophrah's jigilo for over twenty years wrote a tell all book in his disgust. He is such a good looking man, but Oprah was above marriage to him. Why? She like to have sex with other women and men. She is not monogamous and cannot be, having eyes full of adultery, she cannot cease from sin. Think of all the money the tabloids will make on photos of Michelle trashing Ophrah or a "Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice" romp at the White House. When Michelle is away, Ophrah can go in on the secret elevator like Marilyn Monroe did for John F. Kennedy. Whoever wins the elections is not the power behind the scenes pulling the strings. They are all actors on a stage doing what they are told to do, saying one thing one day and the opposite the next. People get the leaders they deserve. If the people want better than Obama or McCain, they should stop sinning and ask the Lord for better leaders. He can hear when He chooses to listen.
59. #58 He gave us Huchabee, but the people trashed and rejected
him ,   jan, usa   (06.06.08)
60. Would the real Hillary, please stand up?
YardoKnowsbest ,   Syracuse, United Sta   (06.06.08)
I hope Hillary isn't still pushing (or extorting) her VP desires on Obama. Read what George Will has to say about this."Clinton, having risen politically in her husband's orbit, is a moon shining with reflected light. Were Obama to hitch himself to her, he would reduce himself to a reflection of a reflection." (Quote attributable to George Will of Washington Post 6-6-2008) George is quite right. If anything shows that Hillary was indeed a lightweight, it was her unwillingness to admit defeat and show true support for Obama last Tuesday night as Obama garnered more than enough delegates to claim the nomination. And I submit....This one incident, because of its monumental importance, also gives evidence that it was Bill, not Hillary who was directing her campaign all along. Ya know, with that old Clinton style of so-called "politics of personal destruction". It really was their style...their modus operandi....and....it almost worked again....almost, but not quite. Personal destruction meant destroying others, anyone who got in their way. It also meant to attack, then deny (i.e.; lie). The political technique which typifies the Clinton's strategy to a tee reared it's head this past Tuesday night for EVERYONE to see when as Hillary showed Obama total, unquestioning disrespect by refusing to concede...she accused HIM of not showing her respect. THIS IS THE CLINTON WAY. What struck me as very ironic throughout the latter part of the campaign particularly, is how Hillary (Via Bill's seasoned political operatives) was able to morph herself so quickly using differing political strategies to suit the desires of differeing Primary audiences. She went from "The Queen deserves her coronation Hillary", to "I'm not as good as a speaker as Obama but have more substance Hillary" (remember the celestrial choirs speech), to "I have more hutzspa than Obama Hillary" (remembering Pa primary with her downing shots and talking about shooting shotguns), to "I really represent the down-trodden working-class white male Hillary" (W. Virg and kentucky), to ...... what, exactly???? Well, in the end, she alligned herself with what may have been the most radical fringe of her support....those willing to become politically active for her when she needed them most for a big show at the DNC's Rules Committee meeting. And there is where she seemed to have ended it...suggesting her supporters are really made up predominently of life-long disenfranchised females (also known as feminists). But, like almost everything associated with Clintonian politics, this is a mirage. The strength of her feminist support certainly makes up only a minority of her true support. Hillary was always a feminist wanna-be though, so she'll quite glady reinforce the false image that she represents such a crowd(Especially when it suits her).All of these morphed political strategies in whole have other names. It's been called "Modern Populism" or simply "Pandering for votes". It's been called political brilliance before (When it's been successful). But, even though this Primary has been described as tortuously slow in reaching a decision by some pundits, the reality is just the opposite. These changes or morphs which Hillary was able to accomplish took place at lightening speed as they must in a Primary where she continually gets ready to do battle in the upcoming States who have their votes sometime only a week apart. This was too little time for Team Clinton to successfully perform their very well practiced "Rope-A-Dope" from week-to-week. Too much light shown on the real picture. (you know, like turning the lights on late at night in a roach-infested motel kitchen room and seeing what really has been going on there-it's all quite unseemly, yet you find out-true). Because of this, it was easier for the voting masses to see that Hillary's defacto Primary theme became: "Change You really Can't believe In". She deserves it as her epitaph.
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