The cost of Israel on world resourceshas been massive. It includes the Iraq war and a host of other wars. The problem is the irrational support of a handful of American Jewish billionaires who perhaps feel guilty themselves amassing fortunes in America hence their illogical, immoral and often illegal support of zionism. Many Jews are exploited into believing that the AIPAC way is the only way. The formation of Israel was a huge blunder and one wonders what could have been achieved at the same cost.

You being such an educated person, and obviously so much interested by human rights issues ( including I hope, those of the Iranian gay communities) should be intelligent enough to understand that there is no such a thing as " a Moslem world" , although we all realize that this is what you and your Islamic friends are trying to achieve. The fact that Israel is still alive today , in spite of all the attempts to destroy the " heart of Judaism" clearly demonstrate the world's attachement for the very concept of a Jewish National Home at a time when Islam is more and more perceived as being manipulated by intellectual or pseudo-intellectual hate spreading individuals like yourself, your brother and all of those associated with the autocratic regime in place in Teheran. Provocation , regardless if verbal or physical, by the Islamic Dictatorship of Persia ( Otherwise known at Islamic Republic of Iran ) can only lead to further damage of your own image. Each time a provocation comes from Iran , your government creates additional reasons for a massive military operation aiming at removing all the Islamists from position. I cannot remember of any country - even in the "Moslem World " being so systematically associated with negative images....including Syria . Your attitude derives from the same train of thought which inspired Adolf Hitler and confirms that Islamism is not so far away from Nazism . Short of being able to solve your domestic problems you and the like of you are using a very old solution : the scapegoat. Since the return of Khomeini , Iran has continued on its path of self-destruction. I believe that your government has only managed to alienate de world against Iran, contributed to lowering the living condition of your people, and demonstrated the unability of your racist and anti-semitic theories to solve the Middle-East conflict. As a matter of fact , dear mr Larijani, your country and ours suffer from the same sickness : we are not secular countries.....however, when Israle has managed to raise its living conditions since its creation , you have done the opposite. While women's condition in Israel have improved, the living conditions of women in Iran have drastically dropped for the worst. While Israel enjoy sympathy and support from the world "Jewry" ( To use a term that you probably know was associated with your Nazi supporters) Iran is systematically associated with fear, oppression, blackmai, suppression of civil liberties, persecution of homosexuals, economic crisis, executions, torture, all of this for the greater name of god . While Israel is supported economically by the EEC , Iran is being submitted to UN sanctions......what does all of this means ? Dear Mr Larijani, it means only one thing : you are on the wrong side of the road. But untill you gain some well needed intelligence, you will not be able to understand it and admit the Islamism is today the potential vector for a massive religious conflagration which in no way can be winned by your bearded generals, your bearded mollahs, and the bunch of bearded idiots who have authorized you to travel abroad and spread hatred. Basically , Dear Mr Larijani, I sincerely believe that you are what we call here a " moron" .

Are you for real? Why don't you just sit on that useless island of yours and sunburn the rest of your braincells -if indeed you have any left

Every numbskull know-nothing from NZ that has an opinion based on hatred (self hatred?) is sucking the oxygen out of Planet Earth. Meanwhile, as you whine, Israel continues to contribute breakthrough after breakthrough to the worlds of medicine, technology, arts and sciences.

Israel is the only country whose creation was approved by the UN; yet it is the only country whose legitimacy is called into question. It is the only country which the world requires to compromise with its Palestinian Arab attackers and accede to their demands, even while they are firing rockets at its schools and houses and blowing up its citizens. The prosperity and growing cultural confidence of Israel is a fitting riposte to the Western intelligentsia, American meddling and the daily propaganda assault that ignores the Islamisation of the Palestinians as described at : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/05/happy-60th-birthday-israel-well-done_8651.html

Israel is the only country which continues to provide electricity and basic services to its enemies and routinely treats thousands of Palestinians in its own hospitals, even those who have Israeli blood on their hands. And yet it is the only country which, in the court of public opinion, is condemned for behaving ‘disproportionately’ when it uses targeted military means to defend itself, and is accused of causing the very ‘Nazi’ or ‘apartheid’ atrocities of which it itself is the victim. The world has lost its correctness as explained at : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/02/collapse-of-political-correctnesswhere.html

As a Jew I am anti Israeli. With the all the rubbisih , corruption and Bolshevik media coming from Israel it is no surprise that the world hates Israel. In there self loathing at least our Herzelists have sucseeded in that and it will only get worse with the bunch of jerks sitting in power, supported by an even more corrupt media. Not only is there hate but contempt, in the stupidity and ignorance that comes from here, the way Israelis behave and act it is well deserved.

All vicious garbage, all the time. That this outrage is happening in Germany with generous funding from the Protestant Church and the Social Democrats just shows that the Germans in general have never changed their stripes. This gives anti-Israel, Judeophobic trash like the TB #1 the gall to support Holocaust Redux on Israel. ISRAEL IS NEITHER A "PROJECT" NOR AN "EXPERIMENT". This is sick, immoral and twisted thinking. It isn't yet evident to ignoramuses like #1 that we Israelis are human beings, people with names and homes, who live and breathe, raise families, work and strive to enjoy their lives and protect themselves from the genocidal monsters that surround us. People like him don't want to accept just how much Israeli Jews have contributed to science, technology, medicine, the arts, et al. They will never accept the fact that Israel is for the most part, a humane and democratic society.

most of them Anti Semetic Jew and Israeli Haters, or are they just jealous because they have such a small insignificant counrty that has never made much of a difference. It seems like whenever a New Zealand politician want to make a splash, they pounce on Israel. A Brit once told me they had a saying, "We have the Queen and the Jews have the country." Some BS. Well in case you are wondering, we have no interest in New Zealand or their crazy politics. I find it amazing that you attribute all the worlds problems to little Israel. At least the Australians have much more sense and have been willing to put their beliefs into action many times. It is too bad we, the US, bailed you guys out from the Imperial Japanese Armed Forces during WWII. What a waste of reasources as you would put it. Maybe even a few years under Imperial Japanese rule would have straightened New Zealand out. Even the Japanese protected their Jews and today they engage in business, science, and technology with Israel. So go tend your "hollier than thou" sheep, and don't come crying to us when another earth quake hits your Islands. If Israel isn't worth the resources or trouble, certainly backwater New Zealand isn't.

Its this kind of subtle manipulative journalism that makes any informed debate impossible. The headline talks about an "Anti-Semitic" performance while Larijani talked about the "Zionist project." Well there are plenty of people in the world, Jews of all stripes from agnostic, reform to Haredi, non-Arab peoples of many faiths and Arabs of varying faiths who also feel that the "Zionist" project has not been a great success. That is quite different than a) being anti-semitic or b) wanting to kill all the residents of the state of Israel. In a similar vein there are those, again coming from various political and religious colors, who still believe more in Israel as a homeland for the Jews (amongst others) versus Israel as a Jewish state. None of these negate in any way Israel's legitimate right to exist as a sovereign nation. But of course, since the inception of Zionism, these things have never been able to be discussed in any open and honest fashion. And don't compound the errors by thinking that anyone who voices such opinions is a fan of the current Iranian leadership.

...Is NOT because of Torah (If it were because of Torah, Israel would not be created by secular Hertzl, Gurion, etc. but by Maimonides, Caro, Cordovero, Ari etc...), but because to protect Jews from antisemitism and to preserve them. It is sad, yes, but it is true, that people fear more if there is a danger of punishment then if there is a possibility of good name. Hence, the history showed that more human lives were saved if they were citisens of other state, then when they were not, and asked for mercy. We are not trilled to have Kristalnacht again. We would not like to see our families mass-murdered like cattle anymore. Therefore, we took a piece of dessert and turned it into a small, shaky, nerdy, freaky, sometimes dangerous, home. With all its flaws - home. Other nations, landowners in that time, first Turkey, then Brittain, and in the last UN, all agreed to give us this piece of land that on the map is so small it can't even have name written over it. You have to write it in the ocean next to it. We did not complain when we got this small room in the cellar, and the Muslims got the rest of the villa, as well as garden and wineyard and greenhouses. And I must admit, I will never understand why they have problem with our 2X2 room, while their 150X150 m2 rooms are total mess. So before you write that we should not exist, look at New Zeland - YOU should not exist! YOU are not a nation, a culture, nothing - at least, you do not differ from Australia in any way, and YET you are separate. So, would you say that Australia should bomb your country and try to annex it? On the same premacies Larijani stated: "We think that New Zeland represents a plan to create a Zelandy State in the heart of the Australian world"?

I'm no fan of a lot of Israel's policies but you have some nerve making your comments about my nation and people when you yourself live in occupied territory. Do you support giving New Zealand back to the Maori? Your ancestors stole their homeland and forced them to live as the second-class citizens they are today. Was the formation of New Zealand a "huge blunder"?

This so called "project" that eats at your heart and every other anti-semite has existed long before you stopped being cavemen. This so called "project" through its rightful and long overdue re-instatement 60 years ago, has allowed for the likes of you to benefit in breakthroughs practically in every field, except for "jihad". The fact that humankind is healthier and amazingly technologically advanced is largely due to the contributions of this "project" you hate so much. Your hate will just consume you while the "project" will go from strength to strength. Just watch.

so stop sullying his name with your muddled politics.

for instance : one million people died during his war against Irak. He send ten thousands of 6, 7 and 8 year-old children on battlefields, being gassed. Iran is the last country to be able to judge others on atrocities, because Iran has an exclusivity on the level of atrocity.

for top secrete talks concerning the assassination of Ahmadinejad . He do understand that Iran is moving fast to a catastrophic end. Visiting Berlin was not a pilgrimage to the death place of Hitler but a reminder of what could happen to Teheran. He is ashamed and sad each and every day when he think that his country that should have given shine and fame to the Shiite community is doing the contrary. he is ashame for each and every word he said. Words that are carefully calculated baring in mind that when he travels his family is being kept hostage in Iran. Unless this conference had the scope of testing Larjiani by the German Intel this trip was a waste of time and money

Costs the Moslem World and their nazi Islamic friends yes. This small piece of land has been jewish in history. and will remain so till such time there are no more morons. You guess why ?. Do you think you Islamists could replace the german nation, power and Adolf Hitler by killing jews and zionism ?. You have come here to live with human beings, besides moslems. 70 vergins is a laugh. there is nothing there. get hold of 70 goats here, they will at least give you milk.may be you think right then. keep you working late hours. Look at the good things that have come out of Israel and Jews. Heres a deal STOP using any thing and every that came out of jewish or Israeli brains and money. May peace and sense be granted to troubled child. Peace to man kind Peace and shalom to all and one

Too bad your muddled thinking can't refute my comments with any more depth. And you are welcome to inspect my Israeli ID and see that my name, for better or worse, is Lenny Bruce.

what can you say from a person who comes from a country of 60 million sheep with a population of 4 million people and ruled by a nanny.

“We have no problem with Israel, we have a stance." Larijani states the issue eloquently. Iran has no problem, only a stance. His country's stance is irrational. If his belief system encompassed a welcome for the Jews in their land instead of a rejection of the cancer in their midst, then there would be no problem and his "stance" would be "good for the Jews" and better for the Iranians. All problems are best solved with wiping out those not in accord with the Iranian "stance." The idea of living with Israel is so repugnant because it is a negation of the Iranian "stance", which is made of concrete, bunkers, and the will to use weapons of mass destruction to remain steadfast in their "stance." Change your "stance", Mr. Larijani. Choose life.

Just a few observations. New Zealand is about to have a Jewish Prime Minister. I have no problem with that. However if as his first act as Prime Minister he goes like Barack Obama before AIPAC proclaiming his allegiance to Israel then yes I can imagine there will be rioting in the streets. Just this week in New Zealand there has been substantial settlements made to various Maori groups. It is an ongoing process. The injustices occurred 100 to 150 years ago. It should serve as a model to Israel where every day the injustices are piling up not on thousands of people but millions. Perhaps thats the difference. The current generation of New Zealanders have a conscience. If Israel wants to be accepted by the circle of Arab nations then perhaps its time to consider the human rights and welfare of the people Israel itself encircles. Most people can read between the lies of the zionist media. The next stage will be a blokade of Iran and you can bet the zionist media will be crowing that a blockade is better than a bombardment. Nevertheless such an action will lead to unpredictable results. Don't say you were not warned.

Iran's government has its own ideas about this world and who is this world's sovereign. We know it is the Lord GOD of Israel. That is to say we believe it is an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent invisible and living GOD. We know Iran's leaders like to put words into GOD's mouth like they are the divine guides of humankind. But we also know Israel and the USA will free all muslims of their oppression in Iran. We will eventually free the muslims of Iran to live as muslims in a world free of tyranny and terror. Hopefully we will achieve this non-violently. The State of Israel is not a zionist experiment. It is a free people and we will continue to stand free, like our american allies, in the sight of GOD as a sign of hope to all peoples everywhere. Ahmedinajad will have his epitaph in the history books. A deplorable epitaph. But GOD will raise everyone above the disgusting evil of this man and his regime. Some day Israelis and Iranians will be free of these goddamned terrorists and racists.

I actually like Arabs... Or as I was corrected on these very pages one time. Semitic refers to a group of languages... So is it the Hebrew language that people dont like when they are accused of being anti-semitic./ Because as far as I know the Arans are a semitic people just like the jews and Arabic is a semitic language just like Hebrew. People are allowed to protest, object and I will defend anyones right to protest about anything... just dont ask me to believe it or support your opinion. #1 a good point made.... Not sure if I agree with everything you said, but I do agree with some of it. I completely agree that American aid, either it be from Jewish philanthropists or my Government under pressure from AIPAC, does give aid, that Im sure a lot of the readers will agree, makes Israel overdependant, and I would ask replies to stop going on about how much technology and life saving inventions that Israel is responsible for.... most other countries are also contributing and dont believe all the propoganda of how wonderful you guys are in comparison to the rest of the middle East..... Not a great comparison I think....

The 'Cavemen' you refer to are the ancestors of people who were building monuments to study the movement of the stars and sun which are still accurate today... This, at a time when your ancestors were pirates in the mountains or throwing rocks at the moon . I cant remember seeing #1 say he hated Israel in any part of his commentary... Maybe you should read it again, and get help with the big words

This was an open forum. Larijani said he disagrees with zionism. He thinks that letting jews create Israel was a mistake. You just cannot accept these things being heard. Yet this is our democracy and by the way i think that whether you like it or not, the man did not say anything of antisemitic. Fortunately in Europe there are few of you (of course there are still some media owned by zionist jews like Die Welt, cause... some people did not finish what they had started). Do not dare to tell us who is gonna talk and what he's gonna say. Whenever someone expresses a different opinion in a conference, you see jews complaining and journalists looking for those who dared to fund the the event. They start talking about holocaust again I wonder wheter the victims (whether they were russians or jews) would like to hear your politicians and journalists using the term holocaust These are dangerous developments.

And the difference is ?

Thanks to you now I know #1s post was not malevolent and I need to smarten up. I suppose you felt it your duty to step in in his defense because you yourself are impartial. BTW, you are meant to "read" not "see" what #1 writes. Thank you for informing me about my ancestors activities. I feel so lucky to benefit from a knowledgeable tutor such as yourself. I can teach you nothing because you already know it all! Go back to defending those you find like minded so you can feel at home. I say this because I am very familiar with your type.

And I have just changed my mind due to your amazing intelligent contribution to these talkbacks... And its great that you can 'Read' what #1 said...Now again, as I said...make a list of the big words that you need help with and we can all help you.