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Radical Islam stirs in China's remote west
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Published: 07.07.08, 08:03
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1. So they want to take over China too, not only Israel,
Miriam ,   Israel   (07.07.08)
France, England and the rest of Europe. Hopefully the Chinese will do what the rest of the world is scared to do and throw them out of the country.
2. Radical Islam in China's remote West
Millicent ,   Israel   (07.07.08)
They see the potential danger in their own country of radical Islam, yet the gov. is supporting their Iranian Masters in Tehran by stalling sanctions against Iran that would curtail their nuclear ambitions. Perhaps now that they see the threat on their own home turf they will join the rest of the world and support sanctions....but in reality they probably won't!
3. Bet they don't get UN condemnation.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (07.07.08)
Whatever they do, however they handle Islamic groups, no matter the harsh treatment, you won't hear a word from the UN. The EU will similarly ignore the whole thing There will be no protests, little news coverage, no "outrage" - even the Arabs will studiously avoid the issue. .
4. Xinjiang
Enzo ,   london,uk   (07.07.08)
Urumqi the capital looks like an european city these days. The huge reserves of oil in the region have made this the richest region of China. For centuries the Uighurs have lived peacefully. They are of Turkish descent and Muslims. Unfortunately during the last 40 years the continuous harassment from Beijing has caused the migration of millions of Han people to Xinjiang and the displacement of the Uighurs into neighbouring countries. China is using the final opportunity the Olympics presents to portray Uighurs to the international community as terrorists. Uighurs have always opposed China holding the Olympics. They are the biggest victims of it, even more so than the Tibetans."
5. FORCEFUL DETERENT IS MANDATORY
Levi ,   Israel   (07.07.08)
China has different morals than most but could teach us how to handle terrorist, if they use force. That is all terrorist understand and too many people think they can negotiate with them with love and understanding. Evil must be crushed and that means force.
6. The ambition of Islam to conquer the world.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (07.07.08)
For centuries Islam of the militants have been on the march to conquer the world. We did not notice because we chose not to notice. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1920 by Hassan al-Banna in Egypt and was in deep confrontation with the Egyptian government. Al-Banna’s ideology set the current Al Qaeda goals for Islam to achieve global domination for a Muslim Caliphate: a world under strict Islamic “Sharia” law, pulling Muslims back to the 7th Century
7. Flood Xinjiang with Chinese migrants like they did in Tibet
S Freedman ,   Jerusalem   (07.07.08)
8. Our best partner ......for time being
Hiram ,   Zelazowa-Wola   (07.07.08)
Although we all know that China is not exactly associated with democracy, human rights,civil liberties and so on , although we know about the horrendous conditions of the working class ( although communisme was supposed to change all that ) although we all know that families of people condemned to the capital punishement have to pay for the bullets which will kill their son ( or daughter ) , China is STILL the best partner in fighting against Al Qaeda and the bearded hords of salafists and islamic zealots trying to takeover the world of the "infidels" . Indeed , one thing the chinese government does NOT appreciate is trying to breach state inegrity.... We shall see if the Islamist gangsters and associated "religious leaders" will be treated like the poor Thibetan people ! The next debate will be to question if what was not "the right step " for Thibet ...was "the good step " against potential islamic terrorists. In fact , the 2 situations are different ....on one end , Thibet wants independance from China because if was originally "invaded" , while the terrorists want to Overthrow the existing local government and impose ( like always ) their specific vision of Islam ...but lets be careful nevertheless...we are on slippery grounds here !
9. #6 Robert Bernier
Said ,   London, UK   (07.07.08)
You are the finest example of the copy-paste functionality. Actually, the ambition of all three monotheistic religions is to conquer the world. Through peaceful means or otherwise. All three have an Armaggedon scenario where they emerge victorious and all (those who survive) bow down to their truth.
10. Said, you are SO full of it!
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (07.07.08)
Said in London (#9) writes, " Actually, the ambition of all three monotheistic religions is to conquer the world. Through peaceful means or otherwise." Not so. Jews, while looking to the day when all mankind recognizes the one God, sees itself entitled to only one small piece of land. Nor is the drive to conquer part of Christian theology. Only Islam sees the spread of its faith, even through violence, as obligatory. Unlike Jews, Muslims have little experience as minorities. So as soon as their numbers allow it, they immediately start to push for recognition as an aggrieved minority, autonomy or independence. China is right to recognize the threat.
11. Said, Robert is right!
Ben ,   London, UK   (07.07.08)
Judaism, never practised proselytism like Islam or Christianity has. Judaism never killed millions of people in the name of religion like Islam and Christianity has. Judaism did not enslave millions like Islam or Christianity has (and still is). Islam is being controlled by horrendous people who are making an ugly name to muslims. Instead of trying to make Islam look OK by saying "Islam is not worse than the others", try to fight the bad apples among your community which make you and a billion people look like monsters! I make it a point to strongly oppose jews with extremist views. However, jews, do not blow buses, subways, air planes ... they do not go and savagely cut throat to people who are not jewish. They don't kill their own daughters to restore the family honnor, they don't burn embassies and look to kill people who speak badly of the religion ... You have got to realize that some muslims have lost touch with reality and are only bringing misery and violence to their people. People like you (I hope) and others have got to clean the image of muslims and purge its people from those crazy ideas.
12. #9 Not all the same
Soeren ,   Cologne/Germany   (07.07.08)
As far as I know the Jews do not proselyte – in fact it's very difficult to join their "club" (read the articles about conversions). They do not try to force others to join their faith. If my informations are correct – the Jews believe that the Messiah will arrive when ALL JEWS strictly follow ALL rules (of Torah and Talmud) for two subsequent Shabbat's. So they don't strive for world dominance – they are religiously strict only to Jews. They don't try to force the entire world (only the Jewish one). In contrast to this Islam is proselyting very aggressively (and orders killing those who want to leave). Islam today is definetely the most aggressive of all religions. While the Christians strived for some form of global dominance as well – this is a religious phenomenon that belongs largely to the past. Contemporary Christendom is largely quite modern and usually moderate. Furthermore Christendom allows the separation of state and religion ("Give the emperor what is to the emperor – and give God what belongs to God") – what is a MAJOR ASSET in my opinion. In contrast to Christendom in Islam "God belongs everything". Islam is a "religion of law" (like Judaism). But in contrast to Judaism Islam is aggressive. While I can imagine that sometimes it might be quite stressful being a Jew – having always these haredim and a lot of rules in the back –, Judaism lacks the aggressivity which seems to be a main characteristic of Islam. Finally, it's quite interesting that Christian and Islamic antisemites always talked about the "Jewish striving for world dominance": While both in fact had the intention of globalized religious dominance (the Christians in earlier times, Islam until today)... – the Jews exactly had not.
13. President Bush has hindered the formation of a Caliphate as
Rivkah   (07.07.08)
power shifts back tot he East in what author Perry Stone, Jr. calls a 500 year cycle. Every nearly 500 years, power shifts from East to West and back to East. T. Chase has an interesting theory at her English Bible Code website www.revelation13.net about the Caliphate that is forming. She believes it will be headed by Russian Premier Putin and that a description of the AntiChrist power alliance fits. It is worth considering. The descrition is that the AntiChrist power has the mouth of a lion (Persia was once symbolized by a lion on its flag and the current President of Iran is a big mouth calling America the great Satan and Israel the little Satan). The AntiChrist power is described as having the feet of a bear (Russia symbol. President Medvedev's name even means bear. The AntiChrist power had the body of a leopard and is powered by a great red dragon, both symbols of CHINA. So here we come to the significance of the Islamic factions in Red China. China and Russia are both arming Islamic nations, so that part of the alliance is apparent. So there are many possibilities on the identity of the Gentile world ruler and the nations and powers behind that person who enters a rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem and says he is god when he is not. Then a slaughter of Jews who trusted him in a covenant with death three and a half years before that occurs. China and Russia have vast numbers of Islamics. How is power about to shift back to the East? According the an article by Noah Hutchings in "The Prophetic Observer" July 2008, Premier Putin of Russia went to the EU recently and told them to stay out of it when Russia and Red China attack America or the EU will be hit, too. How is America going to be attacked? It is likely the Ezekiel chapter 32 destruction of the multitude (military) of a young lion nation and its leader by a sword of the king of Babylon (Iraq) is about to occur. Elsewhere in the Bible the burden (judgment) of Babylon is described as a punishment for destroying the First Temple of Solomon that will leave the land of uninhabitable forever. That would indicate an anthrax or dirty nuke attack. Since US forces are in Babylon (Iraq), the Russian-Chinese backed attack will destroy those forces if that is what Ezekiel chapter 32 indicates. Ezekiel chapter 38 describes an attack on Israel AND North America since Gog of Magog (Russia) goes UP (NORTH) to the land of unwalled villages to take a spoil...in cattle and there are few cattle in Israel. Man of the countries in that attack are known today as Turkey (Togormah), Libya (Put), Iran (Persia), etc. But the unknown nation is called Gomer. Could that be Red China?
14. #9 No Jewish ambition...
Claudia ,   Germany   (07.07.08)
not quite correct what you wrote. The Jewish religion is (as far as I know) the one and only monotheistic religion who is not missionary and never had ambitions to, what you call, conquer the world. There is not one example in history which you could point on it. Only two missionary religions, Christianity and Islam, have and still try to conquer the world. Claudia, Germany
15. Is there a "moderate" Islam?
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (07.07.08)
16. China CAN and WILL kick some serious muslim terrorist @ss!!!
Go get em China!!   (07.07.08)
17. 13 cont'd. Gomer in Ezekiel chapter 38 could be
Rivkah   (07.07.08)
Red China OR the E.U. or it could mean some other nation. But those are two likely possibilities.
18. Radical Islam stirs in Chinas west"
I.Kemp ,   Nahariya Israel   (07.07.08)
You can bet your life China will deal with radical Islam it as it needs to be dealt with, without mercy. That will be the end of that .
19. #4 not quite!
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.07.08)
Uighurs have been penetrated by Al Qaeda since the early 80s and been engaged in terrorist activities ever since. News about this did not go out as they should due to the traditionally powerful Chinese censorship and ruthless clamp-downs. As usual, Islam as preached by Al Qaeda, has managed to transform peaceful people into breeding grounds for terror, serving yet another example of how Islam corrupts and destroys. While Chinese are far from being innocent, I won't blame them if they become more "active" in their actions against the Uighurs. These actions may yet spill into Iran and other Muslim Chinese neighbors. I wish Muslims make the mortal mistake of waking up the Chinese giant, and I bet they will as Islam blinds even the smartest of them. And comparing today's Uighurs with the Tibetan monks is, as usual, Islamo-Leftist double-talk and demagogy. It is like comparing Usama Bin Laden with Mahatma Ghandi!
20. # 9
(07.07.08)
This isn't the first time you've tried to make the comparrison between Judaism and the other two "monotheist" religions and each time people try to explain to you that you have no idea what you are talking about. It's obvious you have a learning disability or just prefer to be ignorant. One thing for sure, you only defend Islam because it's the Arab religion and you're a racist.
21. China: A Panda in wolves clothing
NT Atilla ,   Tel Aviv   (07.25.08)
Along with Russia, the always object any sanctions against Iran. and selling missile tech to N Korea and rogue states.
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