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Website exposes Israeli 'nuke secrets'
Tal Rabinovsky
Published: 09.07.08, 18:25
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1. This is serious, YNET!!!
Enzo ,   london,uk   (07.09.08)
2. Idiotic
Fradi ,   NY, US and A   (07.09.08)
The British group can start with themselves first.
3. Futile Attempt by Zionists to scare Iran with your nukes
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (07.09.08)
It is a reply to Iranian Shab missles trials "Left" is under the command of Mossad try to scare Iran as if disclosing info read it like WE HAVE NUKES TO REPLY YOU Israeli left is also Zionist and a part of zionist policy, NOBODY IS AFRAID OF YOU ZIONISTS!!
4. Not too swift Tayan. Everyone knows Israel has nukes, AND..
Stewart ,   USA   (07.09.08)
why shouldn't we. They are strickly defensive and we don't go around threatening other countries. Israeli nukes are the worst kept secret in the world for a very good reason.
5. WHY SERIOUS,ENZO?..............#1
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (07.09.08)
We can always shift things overnight,can't we?
6. Tayfun: Time to leave the hashish alone for a while
Arie ,   BaGolan   (07.09.08)
7. SELF HATING JEWS
YB   (07.09.08)
"Gestapo" any one? Look where thier intilect has brought them these are Rodfim/killers and they should be delt with.
8. #3 why you are right---read on:
ny ,   usa   (07.09.08)
Muslim radicals in the Middle East have no fear of ANYONE. This is because people who commit suicide and murder civilians don't value their own lives and therefore have nothing worth losing. When people don't have any fear, it's because they don't care what happens and are incapable of reflectiing about the consequences of their actions. I read the newspapers every day, and the people who are getting killed by Muslim radicals are almost always fellow Muslims who are innocent. So, you are right, you don't need to be afraid of "zionists;" or Americans or Europeans or whatever. YOU NEED TO BE AFRAID OF YOURSELVES AND YOUR OWN SELF-DESTRUCTIVE ATTITUDES.
9. Why not target, Iran, Syria, and N Korea Nukes?
David ,   Boston, USA   (07.09.08)
Target the dangerous regimes to the world, not those who want to live in peace. Appeasement of evil never works. When will leftists realize this.
10. to my Turkish friend # 3
david hasday ,   new york   (07.09.08)
bs"d Tayfun dostum , Israel doesn't need to open freak web-sites to deal with our common (musterek) enemy , Iran. Iran is a bigger threat to Turkey than it is to Israel. They are taking over Turkey without using no weapons yet. What happened today in Istanbul is just the beginning of what is going to end in the Islamic Republic of Turkey . And this , my friend , will take Turkey 300 years backwards. Iran is a bigger problem to Ankara than to Jerusalem .
11. israeli nukes-mahmood
jose garcia ,   waterford,ny usa   (07.09.08)
hey mahmood...if isreal kepps its nukes secret,why does everyone knows about it???....also why does iran keeps it atom plan under tight secrecy???/....all photos i see about their project is inside warehouses...where is the actual buildings that will house the atomic materials????.....sounds funny to me!!.....
12. Here's A Tip...
Abdel Karim Salim ,   Jerusalem - ISRAEL   (07.09.08)
Years before the emergence of the Internet I purchased a book in 1988 ,from Steimasky bookstore in Tel Aviv ,that looked mighty interesting to me.The title of that book is " Israel's Nuclear Arsenal " and its author is American " Peter Pry " ...Believe me I read all the book in less than one month... That book is illustrated with photos and charts and drawings, and tells much about Israeli nuclear program from 1958 to 1988. It also includes excellent assessments of what kind of A-bombs and how many of them Israel might already be possessing... For instance, the book gives a good,logical conclusion of whether Israel preferred to have a few big,strategic A-bombs or several tactical atomic bombs.Also the book argues intelligently that most, if not all Israeli A-bombs use the modern " implosion method " ( like that of the Yankee "Fat Man" A-bomb dropped on Nagazaki on August 9,1945) rather than the old " gun-type mechanism" that was used in the Yankee " Little Boy" A-bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6,1945.Furthermore, the book deals with Israeli "delivery means" of its atomic bombs ( whether carried under the wings of its F-15 fighter aircraft, or installed in the warheads of its long-range surface-to-surface missiles- Lance,Pershing,Jericho, etc...missiles-, or carried in portable suitcases in a terrorist-method style, or launched from heavy artillery pieces like the Yankee-made " M-110 " self-propelled howitzers). Besides, the book reveals the various air attack options available to the IAF including a one-way suicidal flight to a distant enemy target with no return as well as it reveals the names and locations of Israel's air bases and airfields , and also Israeli nuclear reactors and plants and institutes of applied science like physics,etc... Ironically I was able to acquire all that information from a book that I bought from an Israeli bookshop in Tel Aviv, Israel itself... I did not have to run after hostile sources to acquire such information...
13. Israels nukes are responsible for peace
zionist forever   (07.09.08)
Nukes have kept the peace in Israel since 1973. The arabs learned their mainly from Vanunu that Israel can wipe them out if they wipe Israel out so they decided to use PLO tactics instead of forming coalition armies. They are also the only leverage Israel has in America to garuntee that the Americans continue to make sure Israel keeps the startegic edge with conventional weapons because the last thing the US wants is a neucear war. In 1973 during the Yom Kippur War because Israel had been taken by surprise it had taken heavy losses in the early days of the and Israel was begging the US time and time again to send us some fresh weaponry to make up for our losses and the US kept saying now. Then they were reminded of the fact Israel had a last resort weapon suddenly the US was sending cargo plane after cargo plane full of weapons which eventualy allowed the IDF to go on the offensive and win the war. Without those nukes the US would have quite happily seen Israel go under if it would be in Americas interests. They made no effort to help sort avoid a war in 1967 & in 1956 Israel had captured Sinai which it intended to trade for peace but the US used their muscle to preasure Israel into returning it to Egypt unconditionaly which of course probably led to the 6 day war because without the Sinai to launch a war from its possible Nasser would have wanted to start a war. The arabs introduced WMDS into the region Israel followed where they led and the likes of CND if they want to campaign for neuclear WMD free areas then let them worry about their own countries stay out of other peoples where they dont belong.
14. #5 MAHMOOD
Enzo ,   london,uk   (07.09.08)
This is a very serious matter. It's about National Security. Those sites are not discussing Olmert's silk ties or Gaydamak's beautiful watches, but the survival of the only democracy in the Middle East! You have to be extra careful when you can jeopardise the security of millions of people! Personally, I am furious!
15. Jewish self-haters are the allies of Arabs.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (07.09.08)
A part of the Israeli intelligentsia, left oriented, is no longer confident of the nation’s right to its own Jewish identity. This has created a dangerous vacuum. In Israeli universities, revisionist historians have told corrosive lies about their country’s history, portraying it as having been born in sin. In the schools, children have not been taught Jewish history and parrot Arab disinformation instead. Israeli left oriented intellectuals would rather self-flagellate their public and "admit" sins they never committed, and furnish intellectual rationalizations for the most convoluted arguments raised by their adversaries, rather than take up their country's defense even when its conduct is beyond reproach as explained at : http://xrl.us/bi5da
16. The only democracy in the Middle East
Barry Macleod ,   Toronto Canada   (07.09.08)
You better come up with something better than that! Truly laughable. I've never read such ridculous arguments.
17. ENZO,JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT....#14
MAHMOOD   (07.09.08)
It is only meant for reasons other than security.I am sure you dont imagine that all this is true.The real reason for this unprecedented publicity has a very logical reason behind it.Wait and see.
18. Just goes to show...The Left are seditious traitors
Mr Lincoln ,   usa   (07.09.08)
These people must be shut down and prosecuted imidiately. Just like the New York Times revealing US secrets. It is always on the Left. Trying to subvert their own national security.
19. #18And yet the public continues to put these idiots in power
The blind truly ,   leading the blind.   (07.09.08)
20. #8 Brilliant
Claudia ,   ´Germany   (07.09.08)
Dear NY, Brilliant comment. It put a smile on my face, in spite of the tragic behind the subject...
21. G-d save us from Israeli intellectuals!
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22. Iran
Jogn ,   USA   (07.09.08)
FYI Iranians are not Arabs. They are Persians. You people never cease to amaze me with your ignorance.
23. Website exposes Israeli Nuke secrets
Roxy ,   Israel   (07.09.08)
Those idiots are going to get us all killed! Nothing like giving your enemies details of your Nuke plant and storage facilites ! Why not just give them a map with directions in Arabic to all our secret military installations, and throw in a map to Fort Knox in the United States too! May you idiots would love to have hezbollah fighters walking down the street towards your homes, or Iranian soldiers marching towards the Temple Mount, when you devulge secrets it is like giving the enemy a green light and the maps how to get past your defenses to attack you!
24. ackmadumbajughead should know what awaits iran.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (07.10.08)
25. 3
zionist forever   (07.10.08)
NOBODY IS AFRAID OF YOU ZIONISTS Your absolutly right nobody is afraid and thats because our politicians and the left wing have created a situation where our enemies have no need to fear us. Once we were feared by the arabs they then we started to go soft, we have a left wing who are fanatical about the so called peace process beliving that no price is to high. We have allowed the culture of surrender to replace the traditional strengh that our enemies feared. Olmert lets murderers go for corpses and he cuts deals with Hamas. One time we would have never agreed to release a man like Kunter for 2 corpses. We wouldnt be doing deals with Hamas to get Gilad we would be saying give us our man or we will hit you even harder and make you regret it. Todays Israeli leaders would never send comandos half way around the world to rescue hijack victims. They would be more worried about damaging relations with Idi Amin, what the UN will say and how will it affect the peace process it would be what kind of deal can we do with you. So I agree nobody is afraid of zionists anymore and thats something that needs to be changed. Israel needs to be feared by its enemies or they will smell blood and move in for the kill.
26. so, let me get this straight...
tom ,   toronto, canada   (07.10.08)
an israeli website publishes a hebrew translation, for the first time, of information that is publicly available elsewhere on the web. and this is major news? my apologies to the conspiracy theorists, but clearly, a hebrew website is NOT the most effective way to send threats to tehran (or to washington). and there is nothing new that might help israel's enemies (arabs, persians, or anybody else) in planning an attack. likewise, "revealing israel's dark secrets" really isn't going to do much to advance their stated aim of eliminating wmds from the middle east - wishful thinking ain't gonna make it so. and that's all this is. so if it isn't effective OUTSIDE israel, it is reasonable to assume that this website is aimed INSIDE israel. and strangely enough, that's what its creators claim, at least in part. it's probably not a coincidence that an election is imminent (and long overdue). and what a surprise to hear that a hadash mk is (or is not) involved. (he wins either way, so long as they spell his name right.) if nothing else, the "armageddon" website signals the start of the electoral campaign, with a shot from the far left.
27. #16, care to name another democracy in the Middle East?
danny   (07.10.08)
28. To #3 Tayfun
ynet please publish! ,   usa   (07.10.08)
Muslim radicals in the Middle East have no fear of ANYONE. This is because people who commit suicide and murder civilians don't value their own lives and therefore have nothing worth losing. When people don't have any fear, it's because they don't care what happens and are incapable of reflectiing about the consequences of their actions. I read the newspapers every day, and the people who are getting killed by Muslim radicals are almost always fellow Muslims who are innocent. So, you are right, you don't need to be afraid of "zionists;" or Americans or Europeans or whatever. YOU NEED TO BE AFRAID OF YOURSELVES AND YOUR OWN SELF-DESTRUCTIVE ATTITUDES.
29. Modern Warfare
ben Ish ,   Any Shtettle   (07.10.08)
Warfare today is not the classical military confrontation. Frequently the victory goes to the force that is able to change the nature of war. The US defeated the Japanese in WWII by changing the paradigm from troops killing troops, to a single plane destroying a city. The US was defeated in Vietman in the same way. The NVA exploited the strong-force approach of the US and handily sent US forces home, embarrrased. Having learned thier lesson, the US went on to defeat the USSR by again, changing the nature of warfare, this time to the economical front. The USSR collapsed not from a military confrontation, but intelligence directed economic "attacks". The war we are in now is economic and informational. (information: psychological warfare) Disseminate information to augment ongoing economic manipulation. The reason there is so much more controversial information out there now is mainly because the players are no longer neccesarily interested nations. There are NGO's with greater resources and interests than many nations. Furthermore, do you think Putin cares about national boundaries? Or is he more interested in wealth beyond comprehension? Russia's moves are highly influenced by Gazprom, as US interests are by ExxxonMobil etc. The rules are changed, and the information regarding the status of any nations capabilities are carefully designed not for you, but for uninformed and uninvolved mid-level corporations whose combined misdirection can easily lead a nation to ruin.
30. Expose these 'Israeli intellectuals, journalists'
Ron M ,   Tel Aviv   (07.10.08)
Publish their names, start a website with their home addresses, this should be public knowledge, after all if there are no secrets in Israel then all information should be public no? If they put our families, children at risk the least we could do is return the favor. I don't want to do business with any company affiliated with these individuals, I want to boycott them, this is also our right. This state needs to clean up its garbage, if classified information is on that website let's start seeing PROSECUTIONS. Let them eat bread & water like vanunu for the next 200 years. We have let these traitors run amok in this country for too long.
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