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Report: US backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran
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Published: 13.07.08, 07:52
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1. Lets get on with the inevitable already
(07.13.08)
2. Iran
Jeff ,   US   (07.13.08)
Even if Sun Times report is correct, sounds like US using threat of Israel to get Iran to change course without committing itself to possible military action against Iran. US soldiers already 'endanger' inf Iraq & Afghanistan. Wonder if Israel has told US all it knows of Iran nuclear facilities realizing US would do nothing. Do not think US gave permission for Israel to destroy Iraq's Osirik plant in 1981. So one never knows what will happen. US invaded Iraq against Israel advice. Turkey borders Iran. . .S Arabia close to Iraq & Iran.
3. Iran
Wise Saba ,   Western Negev   (07.13.08)
Oh, I get it. Uncle George wants us to do his dirty work & Oldmerd is willing to do anything to detract attention from him. Not a very good senario I think.
4. Prepare for WW III
Daniel ,   Israel   (07.13.08)
If attacked only on one site and others left open, Must finish the whole job in maximum 2 days. Co-operation and coordination is required for this.
5. Now is not the time!
AB ,   TheRock   (07.13.08)
Why does this government have to choose the three weeks (17th of Tammuz to 9th of Av), the worst time for the jews to take on something so dangerous. If you've waited this long, I hope you'll have the sense to wait till after the three weeks.
6. Sunday Times usually just makes stuff up
Danny   (07.13.08)
it was only a little while back that Israel was "imminently" going to drop tactical nukes on Iran. Bit of skepticism needed....
7. In other words!!!!!!
Robert ,   farmington   (07.13.08)
In other words when you attack Iran we can use you as a escape goat and say its israel fault that the world economy has tanked the current leaders in washington and the world has made me sick.!!!!!!!
8. GW is Just Padding His Families Oil Porfolio
Johan Odin ,   Oslo, Norway   (07.13.08)
GW Bush's reckless and failed foreign policy appears to be designed to pad his oil wealth after he leaves office. Nothing that Bush has done while in office has worked other to increase tensions in the region and raise oil profits that benefit him greatly once he is finally out of office. The biggest reason GW is ticked off at Iran, Russian and Venezuela is that they are skirting western controls on the flow of oil, either by selling oil for foreign currency and weakening the Petrol Dollar, or taking back control of their oil reserves from greedy Western oil interests. The world will be a much safer and more peaceful place when the coke snorting idiot currently occupying the White House retires to Texas along with his failed presidency and legacy as a leader. I wish him God speed.
9. America really has Chutzpa!
AB ,   TheRock   (07.13.08)
It won't do anything to help, not even let Israel use Iraq bases but yet it will decide when to give the green light. Chutzpa, chutzpa, chutzpa ...And we wait for the green light to be guineapigs! Nebs, nebs. nebs
10. Go ahead!
IRAN#1   (07.13.08)
Ron Arad needs some brand new cellmates! Send the suicidal ones first though, it's more fun that way!
11. US wants Israel makes big risk for her.
(07.13.08)
It is a trap for Israel.
12. Hope It's Not True...
California Bear ,   Berkeley, CA, USA   (07.13.08)
As I've state previously, would be a terrible error for either the U.S. or Israel to initiate military conflict with the loons in Tehran. I'm sorry, the whole "nuclear threat" is completely overblown as Tehran would never use nuclear weapons against U.S. forces or Israel because its own annihilation would follow. Tehran's leaders at the end of the day care about their own survival and that of their country. Unfortunately, the idiot sitting in the White House, despite have deterrence work for 60 years, believes preemption is the best route despite its monumental failure in Iraq. I hope Israel will be more wise. This is not the Six-Day War when you faced an assured attack from Nasser's Egyptian forces.
13. Cold realism rears it's ugly head...
Buick from Boca ,   US of A   (07.13.08)
a one time only strike on hardened iranian targets, with no bomb damage assessment and no follow up strike(s) does not mean that the perceived iranian threat was neutralized. In the immediate aftermath, kiss tel aviv goodbye.
15. Doing world's dirty work, getting world's blame
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (07.13.08)
The West is too addicted to oil and too tempted by the riches of the Gulf to take action. The Gulf states that do fear Iran are too driven by hate for the Jewish state to align their interests with Israel. And since Israel is the chief target of Iran's threats, well, the UN can't be bothered. But if Israel, with its limited resources, takes on the task, they - and the Jews of course - will be held responsible for $200+ oil and the resulting economic dislocation. That puts Israel in an impossible situation.
16. #9 Do you honsetly think that the US will not assist in this
Sheldon ,   usa   (07.13.08)
in anyway? It's not about what you read in the papers that gives you insight into what is going on in the world. The papers change their stories everyday. It's looking at past missions that have been conducted where you get the real insight. Do you honestly think that the military must give a blow by blow detail of how, who, and what they are going to do to defeat an enemy? Please tell me that you are smarter than that.
17. Bomb Iran NOW!
Efroim ,   Washington DC   (07.13.08)
Lets hit the target. The other muslims will shut up alltogether after they see the bully go down. BTW: Obama is muslim according to muslim religion. He wont be on Israels side. Be realistic.
18. California Bearhug
Hunt S. Cross ,   England   (07.13.08)
What evidence do you have that your "loons in Teheran" much care about the possibility that their "own annihilation would follow". Fanatacism uses but doesn't rely on logic or self-preservation. What it always does is aim to inflict as much damage as possible on its perceived enemy. History, including fairly recent Iranian history and Ahmadinejad's personal role in it, offers hundreds of thousands of examples. Best hope those seventy two virgins will be taking their vacation over the next six months rather than gearing up for overtime. And best hope that Olmert doesn't so entrap himself negotiating with Assad that he's paralysed into inaction when Hizbollah lands its next blow on Iran's behalf.
19. #18. The "loons in Tehran" can wrap you and me...
Persian CAT   (07.13.08)
around their little fingers. This regime has not survived about 30 years against the most sustained political, economic and covert and overt military pressures to see ALL its enemies, Saddam and the Taliban, annihilated by its biggest enemy, the US, by being fanatical! It takes a lot of logic and rationality to survive under those circumstances. The Iranian mollahs have written the book on self-preservation by using logic, long term planning and above all knowing their enemies inside and out. I challenge you to come up with just a couple of examples among the "hundreds ad thousands" of examples of Iranian irrational or illogical behavior. I concede that Ahmadinejad's role has been counter-productive but then he has been all talk and no stupid action so far - I'm sure he is just playing his role as defined for him by the same people who are much smarter than you could ever imagine. As for the "virgins", that story has been used to lure a bunch of losers to kill themselves. The sad reality is the same "story" has also been used by other losers like you, who don't have a clue about how power relationships work in Iran, to convince themselves that the mullahs are irrational or illogical! BTW, have you heard of a SINGLE IRANIAN suicide bomber rushing to meet the "virgins", ever? You need to get a lot smarter in order to understand those "loonies".
20. COCTAIL DECISIONS
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (07.13.08)
Reading the article and the previous articles on the same subject,it is becoming evident that there is a definite split in the Pentagon over the issue of USA involvement should the Israelis go ahead in attempting to bombard the Nuclear sites in Iran.The scenerio would have been different few years back but by virtue of Bush's apparent arrogance in believing that after having taken care of Iraq,Iran would be a less difficult customer,his forsightedness was short lived.Iran persued the self-sufficiency in its arms requirements and focussed on weaki points of the USA in the Persian Gulf and heavily exposed USA army bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.There may be an element of overstatement on the part of Iranian leaders on their capacity to confront USA or USA/Israel attacks,nevertheless,Pentagon has realised that the stakes are too high for them to predict with comfort the outcome and retaliation by Iran.Thus the evident statement from Washington agreeing to request Iran to come to the table WITHOUT having to suspend the present rate of uranium enrichment. by Iran.This announcement is fairly major and calls for close study of shift in policy by the USA.Iranians will obviously absosrb the same with delight and may come out more stronger when it comes to them being presented with the reboiled carrots.The might demand fresh consignment and get away with a better deal than what they could have achieved earlier on. To give an indication to Israel to plan the attack is of no significance at the moment.Simple reason is,without the USA involvement,there are very very slim chances of Israel achieving anything except to waken up problems all round it from proxy wars from Hezbullah's and the Hamas.
21. Stroking fur the wrong way
Hunt S. Cross ,   England   (07.14.08)
So the "loons in Teheran", not my expression, can wrap you around their little finger. I know. It says a lot that you're comfortable with it. And feel free to criticise what I wrote about fanatacism and logic, but not what I didn't write.You also challenge me to come up with hindreds of thousands of examples of Iranian irrational or illogical behaviour when I was actually drawing on the whole world for hundreds of thousands of examples of fanatacism. But to please you, hundreds of thousands of examples of Iranian irrational or illogical behaviour is what you shall have. How about the deaths, measured in tens of thousands per battle, of Iranian boy soldiers on Iraqi territory during 1982 - 1984, after you had driven off the Iraqi invasion and at a time when the Saudis were trying to get your government to agree to a peace and compensation deal which had already been agreed by your enemy? Did the thought of negotiation and the saving of life even cross Khomenei's mind? For what purpose did your leaders make them die in droves? To be able to worship in Karbala? And what was the approach of those who, like Ahmadinejad in his earlier years, forced them into battle? Was it in any way different to what Hanke and the other Gauleiters were doing in 1945, getting the Hitlerjugend to put their 12 year old necks on the block while they plotted their escape from behind them? Like it or not, Iran is an exemplar of fanatacism. Quoting from Ephraim Karsh's excellent book, "With their red and yellow headbands proclaiming Allah's or Khomenei's greatness, a piece of white cloth pinned to their uniforms as symbol of a shroud, each one carrying his death with him, and a plastic key around their necks, issued personally by Khomenei as a symbol of their entry into paradise upon martyrdom, they charged towards the Iraqi positions in total disregard of the danger to their lives, and to the shocked disbelief of their enemies." As I wrote, "fanatacism uses but does not rely on logic or self preservation." And the losers and victims of the death cult were your fellow countrymen or children. Perhaps relatives of yours. What is your motivation in trying to write them out of your history, Persian CAT? Mahmood is better prepared to talk about the facts, but I'd suggest he takes his reboiled carrots with plenty of garlic. Offers, once turned down, may never re-surface, and the IDF will be in better shape to deal with the proxy wars than it was in 2006, provided Olmert allows it to do its job.
22. HUNT S.CROSS................#21
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (07.14.08)
No need to get worked up when responding to the talk-back.Iran is not the one who suggested the package.Let that be absolutely clear to you.Secondly,your suggestion that Israel will be better prepared to face the uprising in different areas as compared to 2006 is also much based on presumption.By doing so,you are not rendering me any service but rather consoling yourself and turning your face from reality.No one wishes war and destruction and no one is immune to the suffering that could follow.
23. Ruffling the cock's feathers too, it seems
Hunt S. Cross ,   England   (07.14.08)
Mahmood, you confuse a categoric refutation of Persian CAT's claims with getting worked up, and you imply a suggestion on my part that Iran suggested a deal. I didn't. Shaky ground for a lecture, if I may say so. And disappointing, since your earlier post presented an argument well. It just didn't convince me that the world wouldn't be safer without the Iranian regime having the ability to impose its evil will on the rest of us. That's because I agree with Persian CAT that there is method in the regime's madness and that it is, indeed, very good at what it does. It's just that it is a regime like that of the Third Reich in many respects, having no limit to its intentions, showing itself capable of going to extremes and morally repugnant in its views. That regime needs to go, and there's too much appeasement in the air for the good of this world. The longer it's left alone, the worse the damage it will do. Goodbye to this thread. Mahmood, I'm sure we'll debate some more elsewhere.
24. DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTS,HOWEVER......#23
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (07.14.08)
Welcome any time,so long as you dont remain too biased and believe in only what you think is right..............else we will never enlighten anyone.
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