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What the world doesn’t see
B. Michael
Published: 26.07.08, 13:03
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31. Israel is the only existing apartheid left in this Earth.
George ,   Canada   (07.27.08)
Sooner or later The Palestinian people will be free. This is the low of the History. The question is how mach suffering bring this evil theory “Zionism “to humanity. The place of the Zionism is the garbage of the history like communism, Nazism etc.. This article simply written by a real free jew ,a jew that knows this reality. There are much more blind Jews need to be reborn as honest and free like you.
32. what the world doesn't see
maria ,   amsterdam, holland   (07.27.08)
I am christian-born in a very pro-israel family. In 1977 was the first of my nine visits to Israel and I've seen it changed since then. When I saw the documentary "Checkpoint" I understood the need for safety but I was wondering why IDF had to humiliate people like that. Though my heart is with Israel always. Despite of my doubts I am however very proud that Israel has a free press that is keeping an eye on human rights for even the enemy. Israeli people have enough common sense to critisize their own behaviour. Compared to people next to them that use to celebrate every jewish victim that is a good thing!
33. Miriam, B. Michael is Israeli
Truthseeker ,   USA   (07.27.08)
Maybe you don't know it Miriam but there are many, but not enough, Israelis who know the brutality that Israel has inflicted on the Palestinians for decades - brutality that began long before the first suicide bomber was born. It is too bad that so many people prefer to wear blinders and to shoot the messenger who brings the news that they don't want to hear.
34. the other way round: the rare cases are exaggerated!
uli ,   jerusalem   (07.27.08)
35. The best solution: two states for two people
Daniel ,   Switzerland   (07.27.08)
Israeli and Palestinians need both a Palestinian state, the sooner the better. On the Palestinian side there will be no more excuses for terrorism as form of resistance to the occupation. Any action of terrorism will be interpreted as an act of hostility toward Israel coming from a bordering state, with the expected consequences. I think Palestinian will be commited and good-advised to clean their own house, for their own safety and prosperity ... On Israeli side there will be no more embarassement with regard to the distinction between terrorism and resistance, that means the Palestinian state will be directly considered responsible of their acts, and it will have to take every thinkable measure to prevent terrorism, as Israel is doing now. Of course Israel must support a strong Palestinian state so far it wants to be her ally and good neighbour, and of course the Israeli state and future the palestinian state must collaborate in all domains of anti-terrorism. Israel must take the risk and give the Palestinians a chance, I believe.
36. EXCELLENT WORK! 100% FOR DISTORTION , DRIVEL.
DOOMHAM ,   EFFING, PARASITE-UK   (07.27.08)
You can tell by the way this diatribe is written...the style... reeks of the 'smarty pants' cynicism often found emanating from twits like this. It only appeals to the like-minded, and thankfully there's enough reasonable people to see through this utter crap put forward as some kind of reflection of reality. ALL BS.
37. @3 - Germany and Japan
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (07.27.08)
Both countries were occupied for decades after WWII, in what was a very legitimate move. Next time you use blanket statements to support your opinion, read a history book first.
38. Redirect all PA funding to Jordan, the Palestinian homeland
Great White North ,   Canada   (07.27.08)
The just response is to redirect all PA funding to Jordan, to build homes and infrastructure and welcome its people home. Jordan is the Palestinian homeland.
39. where is the supporting evidence?
Great White North ,   Canada   (07.27.08)
Where is the supporting evidence? In todays techo era with video recording at the tip of your fingers, there would be evidence, but there is none except a few isolated incidences. This "opinion" is not based on anything except anit-Israel propaganda.
40. Is it good 4 Jews
Arab Citizen ,   Syria   (07.27.08)
What the Jewish people r missing r the lessons of history, when Europeans were persecuting Jews in country after the other in the middle ages, Arabic spain was the hights of Jewish freedom and acheivments, Hebrew was allowed to rise from dead and Arabic armies had Jewish comanders. Today I wonder if the role of the Jewish state as a guardian of middle east oil will end once the oil its self ends...should not Jews be more prudent and build good relationships in their own neighborhood , instead of trying to grab more land and destroy a people , that might be a good saving in the bank at the time when outsiders will not have any more interest in defending Israel.
41. #26 David
GUH   (07.27.08)
((In my world the Palestinians plot day and night to kill every Israeli and throw them into the sea, eradicating the State of Israel)) And it is here in this little world surrounded by your delusions that keep you distant from what reality dictates. This paranoia that generates throughout your society, throughout your forums and other communities is unfathomable. ((Anything we do to them is purely in defense of our lives)) Like murdering children? Like leaving thousands of them without a roof? Like kidnapping their children and mercilessly abusing them? Like building settlements on their lands? Like preventing materials necessary for their survival? Driving them into absolute poverty? Isolating them from the world? Curfews? Tell me how all of these day to day offenses are possibly more in the name of your survival than in the name of your ends. ((This is war and war is never nice and pretty)) How quickly you are to dismiss your actions as "war." War in its ugliest is all that you have brought to the holy land after two thousand years in the diaspora. International laws have been set up to get prevent wars and, for your people's sake, genocides; and yet your contempt for the system that was built for your sake (whose fruitlessness I do not support at all) merely implies that you people are the troublemakers, so land as you cry, "Peace! Peace!" Tell me, would "war is war" if a Palestinian shot one of your citizens in the leg? Or should his leg also be shot? Or should he be let go like in this case? ((Let them change their goals and behavior and we can all liver in peace together)) Pathetic! I suppose you can keep your foul attitude and "you'll all live in peace." Tell me, how naive and simplistic can your rubbish get? Oh I forgot: you're living "in your world" full of similar delusions. ((Until then we will do whatever is necessary to survive)) Like shooting protesters in the leg... ((If you don't like it, then you are free to move to anywhere else in the world.)) Meaning if he does not believe your incoherent babbling rant he has to live elsewhere, no? If he is not happy with such conduct by the boys and girls of this state he is a "traitor" that deserves exile. Please, if you tell me this is what your vision of co-existence is like (and especially after what you have done, bringing the holy land in its darkest eras since the crusades) then I'm sure "peace" is just around the corner (but I forgot: the saying amongst your kind goes "yes to peace, no to Palestinians").
42. Terry #1 wrong, B. Michael right on
Jerrold Cohen ,   Seal Beach, USA   (07.27.08)
I have read online news sources on both sides for years, and B. Michael is right on. Israel is engaged in shattering the fabric of life of the Palestinian people. Asked for Terry #1, the ratio of Palestinian damage to Israelis to Israeli damage to Palestinians on a monthly basis is about 1: 50. There is no comparison. Also, ynetnews, thanks for printing this.
43. Collaborating with the enemy!
David ,   Houston TX   (07.27.08)
This article is a perfect example.
44. It amazes
david hess ,   haifa   (07.27.08)
that a major Israeli newspaper would publish such unsubstantiated, libelous slander of our own army. What a stupid article!
45. 35 Daniel
Jay3 ,   Israel   (07.27.08)
You seem to not realise that Palastine consists of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and part of Egypt as well! WHy dont the Arabs expect them to give up land? Why just little tiny Israel? Go read the Palastinian Charter. The current day bogus Palastinians only exist as a proxy for Arabs to destroy Israel with. There is no peace partner because there is no Palastinian people, just Arab occupiers in judeah, the home of the Jews!!
46. what the world doesn't see...
dany ,   canada   (07.27.08)
B. Michael: Who are you to decide for me/us what we don't see? How do you "See"? You, Mr., can decide/deduct whatever you want, but don't speak for everyone else; Who appointed you to do so? By what right do you become a judge? Who empowered you? Some food for thought...
47. i dont think abuse of any kind is right
popo   (07.27.08)
but 9if you want to see real abuse check whats happening with the 120 alfatach that the hisbalah have arrested no reporter would dare to report whats happening
48. the phone rings just when the shot has been fired! because
rachel ,   usa   (07.27.08)
1. The girl has been told to shoot the film toward soldier who is going to be aiming his gun . 2. Someone shoots at the group of soldiers interrogating the protester .(We don't see that) 3.Then the soldier aims his gun where shot was fired , in direction of the camera . 4.Someone shoots again near protestor's leg , this time for the camera . 5. Protestor falls (maybe he knows all about it ). 6 meanwhile girl is shooting whole thing with camera and receives phone call from shooter asking "if she got it all on film " 7 .more propaganda against Israel , maybe it will convince the world how much they are suffering because of Israeli abuse . more crying and asking for help .....and the most important they need MORE MONEY ...... 8. propaganda for the whole Arab world and media to show atrocities committed by the evil Jews ..... 9. either way they can't lose ......because as long as it is to criticizes Jews ...Arab with gleefully accept without question what their media tell them ......MORE PALLYWOOD .....
49. #10 if you have 10 or more children with no way of educating
rachel ,   usa   (07.27.08)
them , don't complain about not being able to put them in a camp for the summer .....If as you say you love your children , you will stop teaching them to hate anyone .....by the way my grandmother and my great grandmother and her grandmother came from this land ......
50. #31 do you believe in Santa claus?
rachel ,   USA   (07.27.08)
51. #33 YES its too bad people like you prefer
rachel ,   usa   (07.27.08)
to wear blinders ....
52. #40 grab more land ? you must be kidding ?
rachel ,   usa   (07.27.08)
look on the map for proportions, you people have so much land ...and want to deny that tiny amount of Israel to the jews ....who are the greedy ones ?
53. #33 B.Michael can be Israeli BUT he's still an Arab.
Miriam ,   Israel   (07.27.08)
Why don't you read the posts from Terry from Eilat and you'll know what Leftists medium are truly hiding because of our powerless leaders and why the Arabs are getting a fraction what they deserve.
54. anti-Israel hate propaaganda
bob kirk ,   los angeles   (07.27.08)
Who is B. Michael, and what motivates his/her lies. This person claims that 'every minute of every hour, the Army is "shattering the fabric of a whole people". What rubbish. The Palestinians could make peace but do not want to. Instead they elected Hamas who are committed to Israel's destruction. The Palestinians are shattering their own society, 'cutting off their nose to spite their face'. I only sympathise with the children born into such a hateful, destructive society and the small minority who want peace.
55. # 40 Keep Up. The Golden Age of Spain is a Proven Myth
(07.27.08)
56.  Jay3 45: the future is together, not against
Daniel ,   switzerland   (07.27.08)
Hallo Jay3, you seem quite pessimistic about the future of Israel if you look to your nearest neighbours, that means the Palestinians, as a simple proxy of the Arabs to destroy Israel. Of course you are right that there are fanatic terroristic groups who aim to get rid of Israel, but Israel must try to find a way of compromise with the moderate Palestinians who are ready to collaborate with the Israeli and live in peace with them, in the interest of both Israeli and Palestinians! Together you will be able to manage the problem of terrorism. I think its the most realistic and practicable way to assure peace on the long term in ME. Or do you want a future of persistent terrorism/war and eternal occupation dilemma (because of terrorism and war danger)? We don't live anymore in biblic era, but in the 21th century, Jews and Palestinians and Arabs must lern to live in peace side by side, like we lerned it here in Europe, the best solution for all people.
57. 41: Anonymous GUH shows his hate
David ,   Rehovot   (07.27.08)
and ignorance. "delusions", such as the AL Declaration of War, the Hamas Covenant and the Fatah Charter? Such delusions. GUH must be one of those people who claims that the Pals are perfect, that every time they attempt terror they succeed. They couldn't possibly ever get caught. "Like murdering children?" in pizzarias, buses, event halls, malls, etc? That's the style of the people GUH supports. "Driving them into absolute poverty?" The Standard of Living rose '67-93, and only sunk when the PA took over and began to escalate their war against Israel. "day to day offenses" are really defenses, in the same war declared and waged by the Pals that GUH refuses to admit exists. "dismiss your actions as 'war'." No, my child, the Pals did it when the Arab Higher Committee refused UNR181 and declared war. Fatah did it in '54, when declaring war against Israel's existence. It goes on, Arab attacks long before any "occupation". "naive and simplistic" blinded by the mirror again? Here's a real naive and simplistic solution: The Arabs should unconditionally end the war they unconditionally began. It fits the bill because antisemites such as GUH would never support such a fair solution.
58. 56: What "moderates', Jay3?
David ,   Rehovot   (07.27.08)
Abbas? He's a Holocaust denier whose Fatah Charter openly calls for Israel's destruction. Egypt? A country with an army larger than all other ME armies combined, who regularly practices war games against Israel and is in violation of its own peace treaty because its never ended incitement and never normalized relations with Israel. Jordan, a Hashemite dictatorship with a Pal majority, sitting on 80% of Brit Mandate Palestine yet says the Pals are Israel's problem? Saudi Arabia, with Wahabi Islam, one of the most violent sects, the official religion, who says "peace" must include the Green Line becoming a border, w/Jerusalem in Pal hands? In Western terms, "moderate" means in the middle, not "not quite as fanatic as the other fanatics". Where's the Pal party similar to Labor, not to mention Meretz? Where's a Pal Ynet, where Israelis can post as freely as you can post on an Israeli site? Where are the moderate Arabs, Jay? Point us to one.
59. i told you!!!
dori   (07.27.08)
60. #41 grow up and find out the real truths
rachel ,   usa   (07.27.08)
for yourself , not what they tell you .....
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