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Local haredi boycott on supermarket chain
Neta Sela
Published: 10.08.08, 09:27
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1. Weissman deserves a life of poverty for dishonoring Shabbat.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.10.08)
2. Causing the masses to sin - haa haaa
Simon ,   TA the free city   (08.10.08)
Well on a Saturday i shall fill my car with Gas, i will shop till i drop and i will party until the morning, because thats my choice! SO theres my answer to your boycott! You will find me on the beach having a BarbeQ if you are looking for me. Love the bit about "they will advise people how to react to people who trample Shabbat" What will it be this time? burring car tyers and violent demonstrations, or how about the classic throwing acid in a young girls face, or better still as we saw last week , breaking and entering a single womens apartment, beating her senseless for the crime of wearing jeans?
3. #1 What's it to you?
Arielush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (08.10.08)
Dear Bunny, You live thousands of miles away in California. You are free to shop when and where you want? You can choose to travel or watch TV on Shabbat. Who are you to comment on what we do in Israel. I don't tell you how to spend the Sabbath, please don't tell me. Kol ha Kavod to Weissman for giving us the freedom of choice.
4. Off again...
Kim ,   Israel   (08.10.08)
Us seculars like the choice of being able to pop out on Saturday to buy milk or whatever. The big mouth Haredim should just get used to the fact that this is 2008 and more and more stores are opening on shabbat now. While the population is supporting you and your ever growing amount of children - you need to keep quiet and stop preaching to the rest of us what, how, where and when. Just shut up - we are not listening. Move to New York if you don't like it.
AAD   (08.10.08)
6. the clericalfascists are on the rampage
Charles   (08.10.08)
sad but true I will not be intimidated !!!!!!
7. SIMON THE FREE.....................................
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (08.10.08)
The sentiments you express convey such a reppellent to "purpose" that it serves as monument to abysmal ignorance, that renders you and your views irrellevent ! We know what you HATE yet no indication as to what your "being" is, is evident.
8. give birth to sons who are the greatest sages of Israel
YITZAK BEN SHLOMO ,   Singapore   (08.10.08)
O come on I break shabbat , i like to go car racing, play soccer and criket .Not always. And I prefer shopping in Singapore , Hong Kong, London and France now day i like Turkey too.I hope my Rabbi here not reading my nonsense. Soory Rabbi, i am not that religious but SOMETIMEs ONLY. I am a crazy head : -) ~
9. to#3
Susan ,   Kfar Sab   (08.10.08)
It's not just about your right to shop whenever you want. It's about the poor worker's right to a day of rest and not to be exploited. He is the one who suffers so that you can pop out to buy a bag of milk on Saturday because you couldn't be bothered to remember to do it the day before. These people are often the lowest paid citizens and don't have a of other opportunities. Many are denied work if they state that they can't work on Saturday. What good is it if they get a day off on Wednesday when their kids are in school. 7 day shopping is bad for society as a whole. I opposed Sunday shopping when it started in Maryland, even though I observe Shabbat and it would have been convenient for me personally. Anyway, I'm sure you can find lots of fun things to do on Saturday that don't involve spending money. I really don't understand .
10. ANOTHER IN A SERIES OF.......................
Dr. Adriene Gluck ,   Bunkport, Ma.   (08.10.08)
CORRINE RATNER   (08.10.08)
12. #9
Arielush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (08.10.08)
You really don't understand. It's not just about my need to pop out and buy a bottle of milk. Actually I do almost no shopping on the Shabbat. It's about 2 things. 1. Religious freedom: People should be allowed to chose whether or not they want to work or shop on Shabbat. They shouldn't be dictated to by the religious minority. 2. It's about another thing as well. I've lived in Israel over thirty years. In the last 20 years I've watched in horror as a new fanatic Judaism began turning this country into a medieval ghetto. These fanatic rabbis are a cancer that is eating away at our society.
13. to #6
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (08.10.08)
You don't have to feel intimidated. Just like everyone else, religious people vote with their money. They can choose to spend it or not spend it wherever they want. I am glad to know of businesses that operate on Shabbat, so that I can vote not to shop there. When G-d gave the Jewish people the Shabbath that was a big step forward for civilization. People didn't know that they could survive for seven days on the work they did for six days. Why would we want to go back to the stone age?
14. Shefa Shuk specifically caters to the religious Jewish demographic
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (08.10.08)
Thus, if it breaks trust with its main customers, said customers are quite entitled to express their displeasure by refusing to shop there anymore. This is basic business reality.
15. I'll be sure to shop there from now on
Chaim   (08.10.08)
16. Let's boycott charidi business
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.08)
Maybe an answer . There is such a supermarket in my town , near the central bus station , well they won't see any agora from me anymore . PS this Charles # 6 , is'nt me of course
17. To # 8 in Singapore , you are right
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.08)
you are crazy , 100 % , and not only for this TB , always
18. Susan , # 9
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.08)
Those rabbis don't think at those "poor" workers at all . Don't forget that those working on Shabbat receive a higher pay for working this day . So many take this opportunity to have a better wage . They can also have another rest day . And many of those working Shabbat , are youngsters , maybe even students .
19. waiting patiently
Michael ,   Haifa   (08.10.08)
I am patiently waiting for the day when economic forces will enable EL Al to boycott haredim
20. #3 Susan
Phillip ,   NYC USA   (08.10.08)
For the life of me I do not understand what you are trying to say. People should be allowed to buy what they want and when they went.
21. Wow
Marni ,   USA   (08.10.08)
If these people have so much time on their hands that they can afford to protest and boycott all the time, maybe they can actually find the time to get a job and take care of their families instead of forcing other Israelis to do it.
22. #9 Wake up
Arielush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (08.10.08)
In a free, democratic world there is such a thing as choice. No one is forcing you to violate the Shabbat, don't force me to observe it.
23. To our wonderful secular brothers and Charles
BUSH ,   USA   (08.10.08)
First you must know the Rabbis reasoning is for small business owners many whom are secular themselves that complain of am:pm stealing away their business and customers of many yrs to the point that they can't feed their families. I guarantee if you were a small business owner you too would complain and to the rabbis to save you and your business. They are doing for these people what the govt can't do to help as we see time and again the rich get richer and poor, poorer. The rabbis care for the freedom of all businesses not like you guys who care for the rich alone. i am:pm close on shabbat, small businesses can have the day off too to spend with their family not worrying that peope will push off their day of shopping to shabbat. secondly seculars can't ever get more than 100 people in 1 city to boycott Haredim. We have unity something you can't contemplate where haredim all over the world will heed the words of our rabbis in israel.
24. #23
M ,   Tel-Aviv   (08.10.08)
First... By your logic we should just close all big chains because they 'steal' customers from small places. As long as people want to buy on weekends the shops will be opened on weekends, for example Tiv-Tam can fill the gap if AMPM will close thge stores. Second... You making a huge mistake underestimating the secular people, we value our freedom of/from religion as much as your value your religion.
25. Charles is a Jewish anti-semite..I invite him to come
Al   (08.10.08)
here to Montreal and live amongst the goyim. When he'll get his head handed to him and start crying about anti-semitism then,I'll direct him to the local chabad where they'll allow him to sponge off a meal. At the same time he'll go around asking for money to return to Israel. At that time I'll tell him Isreal only allows religious Jews into Israel and thus he'll have to stay in Montreal. Of course he wouldn't be able to afford to live amongst us Jews as we have our own economy and we like to "OVERCHARGE" so I'll get him a place in St Laurent amongst his friends the arabs. Charles you are such a JO
26. Bush and small businesses
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.08)
All over the world the number of small businesses is in regression . They can't compete with the chains .I have such one just in front of my home . Never bought there , why should i pay three shekels for a bottle of water , when i can have 6 for 12 shekels in my super ? As far as the charidi boycott , most of them buy in charidi supers , i don't see any in mine . Maybe it's different in others . But in the normal supers they don't have so much "ultra" kosher products . And the charidi supers don't have such a choice of "normal" products . Other point , as the charidi places , Jerusalem and Bne brak , are top in the list of poorest town , the impact of their boycott has'nt to be so important . Maybe that they can boycott one in their neighborhood , but this can't affect the whole chain i think . Supers change , they shut places here , to open another there .
27. Bush , and unity
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.08)
Yes , i know , charidim are as lambs , they follow their leaders , even if they are wrong .
28. Al , i lived amongst non Jews
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.10.08)
for more years than you can imagine . But i made ALYAH , and you stay in your goyish environnement in your montreal . But stay there , only good Jews are needed here .
29. al , contrary to you , i made ALYAH
Charles ,   Petach Pikva   (08.10.08)
Now , who loves GOOD Jews and Israel ? Not you , stay in your montreal , pray your chabad rebbe that he makes a "mensch" from you
30. WOW! only 60 years and we REALLY hate each other.
Nick Sporek ,   Jerusalem Israel   (08.10.08)
:( GOD save us from ourselves.
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