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Criticism over Arab Olympians' achievements
Roee Nahmias
Published: 16.08.08, 20:18
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1. too bad self-demolition is not an olympic sport
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (08.16.08)
they'd beat out the sri lankans by a long shot.
2. if god wills, the arabs will win medals
rob   (08.16.08)
so they all just need to sit back and see if it is god's will. inshallah.
3. Uncontrolled bias
Karim ,   Cairo,Egypt   (08.16.08)
Not that i dare disagree with anything, But why is it that none of the Egyptian team's progress was mentioned, since they have the largest delegation (100+ atheletes) which is up to world standard rather than qatar's pitfully 20 and other gulf nations. Egypt got a medal, and one athelete is in the 8th round, (guranteeing at least another bronze) so why isnt this mentioned? If the authors wish to bash the arabs to bits, sure do it, its good for viewers, but hey Ynet, dont lose your credibilty by publishing such a wrong, biased, and extremly misguided and exageratted article.
4. the problem with arab mentality
(08.16.08)
is that even in present day they feel cheated. know why??? because they still live in the 7th century mentality where they conquered others via the swords and killing and won thgrough murder, mayhem, subjugation and death to infidels. this was what arabs consider their time of glory, their time of being on top and their time of being the master race.....something akeen to what hitler envisioned and thought of the germanic nation and race. everyone knows however, that the arabs stopped functioning after the 7th century, stopped progressing, stopped influencing and stoped acultirizationing after their fall from being the "master race". therefore, they were relegated to obscurity in the world. arabs and islam do not have a cultural societal foundation of harmoney, unity, tollerance, getting along with others who may be different than themselves. arab society is based on tribes with multitudes od alliegences and loyalties. they are not an umma. they are not a nation in any way shape or forms. they are tribal society with not connection to one another except language. nasser's dream was to unite them all, but he failed because unity of this kind is an oxymoron in arab societies. their disunity, their love of murder, fighting, conflict, jealousy, fanaticism, hate for others and even each other cannot bring about a united society. and this is where arabs are lacking. it is no longer your time of conquests and subjugation by your swords. it is no longer your time of killing and murdering those you conquered, it is no longer your time of erasing jewish and christian holy sites so that you can build mosques on them and call these lands arab lands. your time has vanished and gone into the anals of history. you arabs have not accomplished a single thing as a gift to be given to the world since the 7th century. can this possibly explain your non existent contribution to the olympic effort presently? i think this is a very accurate explanation of the resons for your status. you arabs have an inflated ego of your own self worth based on past centuries of being the conquerors and subjugators of many societies which died at your hands and by your intollerance and cruelty and by your very own swords. however, because the world, the intellectual educated modern world passed you by, you are relegated to feelings of inferiority, feelings of jealousy, feelings of superiority you do not deserve and mostly, wanting through present day terror, to brong the world once again to its knees so that you can be on top....by the sword of course. it's not going to happen. you either get a good doze of humility and find out your true self worth and work to improve it, or you'll be spending the rest of your lives in obscurity and end up drinking your oil and eating your sand when the world turns to other sources of energy. never mind the olympics, you people cannot even create the technology to refine your won oil. how can you possibly win at any olympics?
5. And why these happenings of the Arabs concern us?
Antonio ,   Haifa   (08.16.08)
Can we drop this obsession with the 3rd world primitives across the border for once? We are NOT them, we are NOT like them, and there is no need to compare or EVEN CARE what it is they do. Just leave them to rot in their own mess already!
6. Criticism over Arab Olympians' achievements????
Bandar ,   Beirut, Lebanon   (08.16.08)
How many medals did Israel won????
7. They don't let women compete enough
Suzanne   (08.16.08)
what do you expect? No arab swimming girls, no gymanstic girls etcetera. Half of the population of the Arab world is being forgotten. Painfully forgotten.
8. Arabs Practicing Self-Criticism.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (08.16.08)
One doesn’t become great by putting the blame for one’s defeat, for one’s mistakes, for one’s plight, at the doorstep of others. IT is nice to see Arabs practicing self-criticism ; I hope more and more Arabs will do that. IN that case, Arabs will be on their way to become part of the Western-style of thinking.
9. awwww poor babies.....
(08.16.08)
10. #3 - Karim
Gabriel ,   Brazil   (08.17.08)
Karim, this is an article citing another article. Remember that the Olympics (such as many other subjects) develop pretty fast, and articles become outdated very soon. The article quoted says that "a week has lapsed since the Olympics began". So, the article was written on the 12th. I believe the Egyptian got his medal on the 13th (90kg judo).
11. re olympics
marty ,   toronto, canada   (08.17.08)
I would have thought for sure that with all of the practice the Palestinians have had throwing stones that they would have won the gold in shotput!
12. #8 - It's not self-criticism, they still blame Jews
Amos   (08.17.08)
Self-criticism in Arab nations world would be a first, like a cow jumping over the moon. It's always been easy for Arabs to blame all of their problems on the mere existence of people who have a freedom of conscience, and equal political and legal rights without regard to race, gender, nationality, or religion.
13. But rest assured
Steve from Raleigh   (08.17.08)
They will now spend $50 billion to build a full sized indoor Olympic downhill skiing facility in the heart of the desert. Just to prove they have the money to do it. Then they will proceed to win zero medals at the next Winter games and of course blame that on the Jews.
14. #4 & #6: Free Therapy
shrinkDave ,   miami usa   (08.17.08)
I don't know how to say this in Arabic: DENIAL. Find the definition, and learn it well. One hallmark of denial is the failure to experience the world realistically i.e. honestly, using real data to come to conclusions. Your comments are perceived by others as comments based on DENIAL. What if, just maybe, if you stretch you imaginations, they are right?
15. # 6
Marty ,   USA   (08.17.08)
That is the point. Unlike the Arabs tiny Israel consists of 7 million people. And all Israel wants is to keep their own tiny country.
16. Jewish/Israeli performances are FAR more interesting
Zvi   (08.17.08)
I'm sorry that some Arabs are upset about their people's performances, but that's how life goes. But a number of Jewish competitors have had a FANTASTIC Olympic games: http://www.forward.com/articles/13985/ http://www.startribune.com/sports/olympics/26852824.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUl Israel's own Shahar Tzuberi is still in contention for a medal in windsurfing. The Israeli swimmers were very good over all; all but one of them broke (or smashed) Israeli national records during the Games. I hope that increasing speed is a trend. Israel is a very small country full of very talented people. It can win, but it must be creative and intelligent in order to make it happen. What makes me frustrated & angry is this: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1012181.html I appeal to Israel's (Arab) culture & sports minister to take on this challenge, champion Israel's dedicated athletes and fix this broken system.
17. GREAT ARAB ACHIEVEMENTS TO BE PROUD!!!
Moti Yisraeli ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.17.08)
So what if the great arab nation does not excell in sports, arts & culture... still, Arab Peoples are great experts & innovators in bomb construction, new murder techniques, like suicide bombings; intifadahs & gained much Jewish Land from stupid israelis. Kudos, Arab People!
18. re: #6 "how many medal did israel win"
david ,   new york   (08.17.08)
a little math please: world arab population = 325 million israeli population = 7 million. based on population, the arabs should be winning more medals than the US
19. Hmmm, now if they had rock throwing as an Olympic sport, per
haps these camel ,   jockeys might win.   (08.17.08)
20. #3 Admit the Truth: So what?
EgyptJewRefugee ,   Geneva, Switzerland   (08.17.08)
#3 Karim: At least the paper makes a funny joke out of it. So what? You have to be ashamed? And as to Egypt 1 medal for 100 is not great. Anyway it's not important. Where is your sense of humour?
21. Karim #3, Bandar #6
Tahl ,   Israel   (08.17.08)
Both of you need a crash-course in reading comprehension. The writer of this article here, does not criticize himself the Arab achievements in the olympics - but rather, quotes an Arab publicist who does it! So both of you should address your complaints to Nidhal Naisa and not Ynet. Bandar, perhaps your reading comprehension is even worse, since you missed the part that mentioned that Israelis too are disappointed with their olympic acheivements, and similarly to Arabs, also find excuses... And you also ignoed the beginning, which mentioned how 22 Arab countries managed so few achievements. Israel, on the other hand, is one country, 6 million vs. 220 million Arabs. You asked, how many medals Israel won? And the answer is one gold medal, one silver, and four bronze, in the last four olympics. And we might get one or two medals in these olympic games too, in sailing. How many medals does the entire Arab world need to stay at the same ratio of medals-to-population?
22. true
moh ,   Gaza   (08.17.08)
I think the cartoon picture depicts the arabic situation exactly.. Do not think that other arabs are that rich as gulf ones.. yes, we are running behind life minimal requirements.. Food, materials needs and equipment>> Israel is imposing very hard investment and other sanctions against Gazan people, what they can do? they cant even think of anything... Gazans are violently keeping their life to go on.. Same as egyptians, they are poor, poverty is a complete cause of this failure in olympics.. I read that preparing an athlete to be eligible for a golden midal costs 3 millions of american dollars..! that is it..
23. #6-didn't you read the article?
Yehudah ,   haifa,Israel   (08.17.08)
The article mentions the Israeli disappointment from the Israeli team -"If you thought Israelis were unhappy with the results of their Olympic team".
24. # 6 Try reading the article
Thomas   (08.17.08)
It's about Arab criticism of the performance of Arab athletes. "If you thought Israelis were unhappy with the results of their Olympic team, it turns out that the Arab world is sourly accepting their achievements, or lack thereof. Similarly, they too have every excuse in the book prepared in advance. "
25. Arabs are an extremely talented nation
Rami ,   London   (08.17.08)
We see that the rejection complex about Abraham kicking out Ishmael can be solved when an Arab accepts Biblical Christianity. Look at Joseph Farah for example, he runs the number 1 visited news website in the world, he is an Arab, Christian and a Zionist. We shouldn't think Arabs aren't talented, they have been subjugated under the evil of "Islam", but their time will come.
26. To Moti Yisraeli
Palestinian   (08.17.08)
That was funny!
27. Gold medal for Tunisian swimmer....
Maurice ,   Montreal   (08.17.08)
....in the 1500 meter swim tonight! So stop judging and have some respect for athletes!
28. It is good to see that there is self critisizim
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (08.17.08)
in the arab world... I hope one day they will wake up and realize the enslaving women and buying weapon is not everything in life..
29. if only launching Katusha rockets was an olympic event
Simon ,   TA the free city   (08.17.08)
then im sure they could get a gold!
30. You need to break free
Daniel ,   Israel   (08.17.08)
from age old 'Jewish Laws'. In case you do not know; All your laws are adaption of Jewish laws called "Shulkhan Aarukh" {some are added for your own conviniance}. Half your population is under your thumbs and cannot move. Allow them to ware bikini and you will get more swimmers, athletes, gymnasts. 99.99% of remaining half think of nothing else but guns, bombs, killing and forth wife. You need to break free of all that to get any Olympic medal. Or Hold your own Olympics; keep five medals in each category. Here are 30 medals waiting for you and many more you can invent. 1. Sniping innocent civilians and not getting caught 2. Knifing innocents and running away. 3. Kidnapping and holding hostage 4. Making bombs 5. Blasting suicide bombs (These medals after death, depend on how many killed how many injured) 6. Successful hijacking of plane
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