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Blind and ignorant
Frimet Roth
Published: 19.08.08, 16:52
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31. Confused by Talkbackers
Uri ,   Israel   (08.20.08)
If it isn't bringing weapons into Gaza, what's the problem with the flotilla? Is there not a single, innocent human being in Gaza worthy of aid?
32. blind and ignorant
debbie ,   israel   (08.20.08)
TO FRIMET ROTH, My heart goes out to you and your family. May the memory of your precious daughter Malki be for a blessing.
33. #17, care to back that claim up?
Danny   (08.20.08)
34. #31, this is how we ended up with Hizbollah
Danny   (08.20.08)
right on our border. They send in children, you don't shoot. They send in unarmed adults, you don't shoot. They start building, you don't shoot. They put armed men in those buildings, you don't shoot and before you know it you have armed men in bunkers. Hizbollah were perfectly open about this - they went through how they desensitized the IDF prior to the 2000 kidnapping. As for this boat don't be so naive, they will go up to the IDF boats who will ask to board them to check, they will refuse and make a big song and dance, it will be videoed and the IDF "brutality" will be "demonstrated". Thats the sole purpose of this charade, they couldn't give a crap about the Gazans.
35. #17 Jerrold, #31 Uri, thank you.
Khalid ,   Gaza City   (08.20.08)
Thank you Jerrold for showing some compassion to the victims. Gaza has been slowly dying in the past two years. These talkbackers fail to understand that those in Sderot can leave and come as they please, us in Gaza are trapped in this hell by the Israelis. Uri, thank you for showing some of the common sense that is lost by these right-wing hate mongering monsters. Killing children for them is not a problem as long as they are Arab.
36. #30, you should be in an insane assylum.
Khalid ,   Gaza City   (08.20.08)
Stop this nonsense. You talk about "how many of those kassam rockets do not violate international laws?" And "numbers" and "Jerrold Cohen won't count the number of Palestinian groups who reject peace with Israel" You are a monster, what about the NUMBER OF DEAD CHILDREN? DEAD CIVILIANS? DYING PATIENTS? Just because those in Sderot are forced into a summer vacation in Tel Aviv??!! What about students who are trapped in Gaza and can't complete their studies? What about things that ACTUALLY MATTER LIKE LIFE OR DEATH?? And you're talking about human rights violations????? What a joke!
37. #17: Jerry, You Really Think So?
emanon ,   USA   (08.20.08)
Then let them all put on kippot, talit and then have the boat land in Gaza. They'd never make it off the boat before the arabs kill and probably dismember them. It is not about antizionism, it is about antisemtisim. It is about arabs killing anyone who is different from their own clan. You want proof? When not killing Jews, Hamas and Fatah are killing each other over who really is the true face in Gaza. If there were just two arabs left, it would be a battle to the death over who is in charge.
38. Confused by Uri
JPS ,   Efrat   (08.20.08)
Uri, I'm confused by you. Have you ever seen a leftist so called "human-rights" organization protest against suicide bombings that kill Israelis? How about a protest against kassam missile attacks - which are well documented war crimes carried out almost daily by the Pals? Or how about a protest against throat slittings (do you remember when that was one of the Pals favorites? Remember the four women slaughtered at a Jerusalem bus stop? Did you go out to protest against the Pals?) The bottom line that you are confused about is that everybody seems to think it's ok for the Pals to kill Israelis, but that it's not ok for Israelis to kill Pals. That, my dear Uri, is called racism, discrimination, two-facedness, you-name-it. It's bias, it's evil, and they and you don't get it. That's why you're so confused.
39. # 28
Bill ,   US   (08.20.08)
Launching rockets at random people is collective punishment. Putting children into shell shock is a little more than a nuissance. Punishing the government responsible is well warranted.
40. # 26
Bill   (08.20.08)
The IAF airman who drops the bomb on the home of the terrorist aims to kill a specific target. The suicide bomber's aim is to kill as many random people as possible. According the Geneva Conventions, the terrorist who hides among civilians is responsible for putting them at risk, not the fighter pilot. Whereas the suicde bomber doesn't hit military targets but civilians ones directly which is considered illegal. That you can't see the difference tells us that you are either ignorant and/or immoral.
41. David UK 28
Leah   (08.20.08)
The Israeli blockade has killed hundreds? Gee I sure never heard that. Where did you read that bit of information from anyway? The Friends of the Jihad brothers online,or Death to Israel.com? Better yet,like Edthanne and other's I bet your nothing but a pathetic loser and raving antisemite who loves nothing better than to come onto an Israeli website and vent your hatred at people who you do not even know simply because their Jews and Israelis. Oh by the way,let's see how you would react if your child got blown to pieces for the crime of eating at a pizza or an icecream parlor, and have someone you don't even know call her death a mere "nuissance".
42. liars/lawyers
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (08.20.08)
These people/liars/lawyers are so accustomed to lying to arguing that black is white and white is black that they have lost the opportunity to percieve the truth..If you speak the truth you can percieve the truth but if you lie and the more you lie G-d removes the ability from you to see the truth .Thus for example these evil people think terrorists are freedom fightersand they think that good Israel/the Jews are evil and that anti zionism is not anti semitism but Hitler would agree with these evil people on the boat and would join the if he could from his place in hell
43. I enjoyed to read this article well done...
Guy ,   Haifa   (08.20.08)
We unfortunately leave in a country that not all the people in it have a common-sense...
44. the cat has a soul and the aunt is stupid
nuha ,   jerusalem   (08.20.08)
my mother said that the cat has a soul and the aunt is stupid .. evry time after the mother told the story about the cat entering the kitchen of my aunt eat the meat the aunt shut the kitchen door try to beat the cat .the cat step over a shelfe with opened eyes and a horrible sound want to attack the aunt . the aunt open the door runing to her sister [my mother .to tell her the story .. my mother said [the cat has a soul and you are stupid
45. Batman and the Joker
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (08.20.08)
the reason the terrorists perpetrate 9/11 ,7/7 bus bombings suicide bombs and beheadings is not to establish Palestine or a worldwide caliphateor money/oil but purely to get pleasure from death and destruction just like the Joker, as Batman's butler says you cannot negotiate,engage or compromise with them and as Michael Caine says and not many people know that .The terrorists are supported by various states left wing anachofascists and protected by Supreme Court Judges Thus the only option is incineration as King David predicts that the wicked will be incinerated in a mushroom cloud Psalms 68v3 Who is the ?The Talmud states Sanhedrin 98b Rav Simloi states a parable that the chicken and the bat are waiting for the dawn .The [the Jews]says to the bat why are you waiting for the dawn ?[ The light of Torah and the messianic age as you have no eyes and hate the light ]The Christians and the Muslims are waiting for their saviours and salvation The Batman alludes to the Christians.Israel has the same root as the word YASHAR wich means straightness and truth thus all the good people support Israel and the Evil ones hate Israel and try to destroy it but they will never succeed because right is might and Hashem will ensure the total victory of Israel
46. My husband was about to enlist but got a cold feet
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (08.20.08)
Unfortunately I think Israel would sink this boat so I have decided to stay home, but I senr $250 of my hard earned money fot the couse. They have a gay activist George who used to be my husband's ex wife.
47. to 45
44 ,   jerusalem   (08.20.08)
light is in the heart and can feel it without eyes .god say faith is a light but to unbeliever is the blindness .... as long as they think that the 11 of septemper is for ennjoing the killing .they will not win this war on terror . iam not with terror but sure they have a cause wrong or right but never only the interest of killing
48. Blind & Ignorant
Nili ,   Jerusalem Israel   (08.20.08)
Why is Israel not doing more PR to show these realities to the world? I have seen numerous videos-enough to know the reality is that we are facing a deadly enemy, yet Israel is being "barred" from defending itself. My other concern is, given the extreme training the enemy is receiving--what is our own IDF doing to counter all of this--or has our corrupt government decided that defense is not necessary??
49. Khalid looks who's talking!!
Leah   (08.20.08)
Your post is a classic example of that famous old adage "if you point your finger at someone remember there will be more than three pointing back at you! You and the rest of the Palestinians who constantly whine about how your the poor victims remind me exactly of that quote! You and your people constantly complain about how the horrible Israelis kill your innocent little children and treat you so horribly, but I sure never see nice Palestinian folks like you complaning when your Jihad brothers bomb pizza and icecream parlors full of Jewish children, and then hand out candy and dance in the streets to celebrate the deaths of these innocents.
50. Dorthy 26
Leah   (08.20.08)
Do you think the allied pilots who bombed Germany during World War 2,and killed thousands of German civilians were just as morally reprehensible as the SS men in the concentration camps who beat,gassed,and burned millions of innocents to death? To me your gross comparision between a suicide bomber bent on reeking death and destruction on unsuspecting innocents like the bomber who deliberately bombed the pizza parlor which killed Mrs. Roth's child and an IDF pilot aiming to kill a terrorist plotting a similiar bombing is almost the same. You Dorthy should be ashamed of yourself.
51. To 10 Edithan
RAPHAEL CORDOVERO ,   montreal Canada   (08.20.08)
There is one remarkable point in your crap : you say «Jews», not «Zionists» Yes, we are all Israel, the Jewish people, the «People of priests», 4000 years old, eternal, invincible and indestructible. This is why we JEWS, we will say NO and will survive your repulsive green terror, just as survived the red and the brown horrors. Just as we survived the Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Chaldeans, the Medes, the Persians, the Macedonians, the Romans and the the «Thousand years Third Reich » (which lasted twelve years). The all dreamed of «wiping Israel off the map». They were all wiped off, We JEWS and EREZT ISRAEL are alive. Keep ranting.
52. 47#do it purely for fun and
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (08.20.08)
the cause is just a pretext and justifying ,explaining tolerating and helping failing to eliminate it in any way shape or form makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution See Batman the Dark Night It is a great film
53. Khalid #36 you live in an insane asylum
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (08.21.08)
'Just because those in Sderot are forced into a summer vacation in Tel Aviv??!! What about students who are trapped in Gaza and can't complete their studies? ' So you wish to compare attempted genocide to not going to the college of their choice? You are dependent on us for food, water, electricity, and gas yet attempt to murder us. Who is insane? Given a chance I would make sure that no Palestinian ever lived to cross our borders, no food, no water, no electricity, no gas. Think about that you moron.
54. Willful hatred
Ilan ,   Ariel   (08.21.08)
Neither blind nor ignorant. They hate Jews and are glad of every Israeli death. The murder of a gentle young soul like that of your daughter is what makes their lives worth while to them. This PR stunt is just another step in their plan to eradicate every last Israeli.
55. reply to #36
Anon   (08.21.08)
Dead Chidlren? As Golda Meir Said We can forgive you for killing our sons. But we will never forgive you for making us kill yours.
56. They don't represent me
Alice J. Capen ,   Sacramento, USA   (08.23.08)
As a Californian, I just want to say that those idiots in the boat out to save the poor oppressed innocent terrorists of Gaza who warp their children into a murderous mindset don't represent all of California. Of course they do represent Hollywood and quite probably Berkeley.
57. your daughter
Kathleen ,   Sydney   (08.23.08)
Dear Mr. Roth and Family, Just read your article and I agree with your comments fully. I am constantly keeping up to date on news from Israel, and have been honoured to visit twice, with my daughter, who loves your land and people. We are constantly praying for you and all the families who have lost loved ones. I will not give up praying for you. "May the Lord bless you and keep you, may the Lord make His face shine upon you, and give you, peave."
58. #26, what utter crap
Danny   (08.23.08)
Firstly, who do you think pays for Palestinian care in Israeli hospitals? Secondly, the issue is that Israel is treating enemies in its own hospitals. Saudi Arabia have some of the most advanced hospitals in the world, how many Israeli Jews you think get treated there - at any price? You think Russia right now is taking in Georgians for hospital treatment? Thirdly, a suicide bomber evades any number of military targets - such as checkpoints and soldiers, go specifically to civilian areas, looks into the eyes of his/her targets and chooses them to die. It is not an accident or even lack of concern that was responsible for the author's daughter dying, it was a deliberate choice by the suicide bomber. This is born out by the stats where over 2/3 of Israelis killed were civilians far from any combat zone. The 1-tonne bomb at least killed one "wanted" man - you neglect to mention he was a senior member of Hamas roughly equivalent to the head of the Mossad and Shabak combined. Fourthly, Palestinian Gazan kids have plenty of access to pools and the sea and playgrounds. Hamas isn't poor and Palestinians are the highest per capita recipients of world aid in history - they outweigh the Marshal plan in per capita aid. They have plenty of money for weapons but somehow cannot pay for swings... Finally, this argument about "end the occupation" and all will be well is simple blindness. We ended the occupation in Lebanon and in Gaza, we didn't in the West Bank and on the Golan - guess where is quiet and guess where rockets are coming from.
59. The boat people are right!
Hagit Kalman ,   Hadera, Israel   (08.23.08)
This is the only real way to get peace and prevent more innocvent people being killed - on both sides!
60. They aren't Blind & Ignorant
Silvana ,   Glasgow   (08.27.08)
Thomas you are correct, this country (UK) has become down trodden by the PC Brigade who are hell bent on supporting every country that is hell bent on destroying the western nations and Israel, irrelevant of the evidence that is placed in their faces. The BBC is a prime example of biased reporting and that is not conducive to clear thinking. I am one Scot but I am sure that there many more people in the UK who see the truth for what it is. With regards to the idiots on the boat well they are simply idiots on a boat as they made no impact here.
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