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Grandfather confesses to killing Rose
Raanan Ben-Zur
Published: 26.08.08, 11:34
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1. Disgusting
D. Yaacov ,   Israel   (08.26.08)
Disgusting. Disgusting on the Courts and disgusting on the Police. Incompetence all the way around. Just when I thought I couldn't be shocked by anything more going on here in Israel, I'm proven wrong in a most horrific way. Unbelievable.
2. Why he killed his own grand daughter?
atmawi ,   Historic Palestine   (08.26.08)
3. Just shoot the parents in the head - if there's a problem
Talula ,   Israel   (08.26.08)
I'll volunteer to do it. These disgusting vile dispicable people shouldn't be allowed to live. They are scum and the world would be well rid of them. As for little Rose, her body may be lost somewhere, but I hope her soul is in a peaceful more happy place. God rest her tormented little soul. The other children should be taken away and NEVER be allowed to see them ever again.
4. poor little Rose
sas ,   israel   (08.26.08)
these are SICK people.
5. bring back the death penalty!
Justice   (08.26.08)
6. Thats disgusting..paradise is yours Rose & hell is 4 him...
Tareq ,   Jerusalem   (08.26.08)
Rest in peace..
7. Where's the word: "secular"?
Y ,   Nitzan, Israel   (08.26.08)
How come the title of the article isn't: "secular grandfather kills granddaughter"? If this was a murder or abuse case in the chareidi sector the headline would include this detail in big bold print.
8. DEATH PENALITY NOW FOR THIS MONSTER
(08.26.08)
9. Death Penalty for terrorism and child killing!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (08.26.08)
No doubt the lawyers and the psychologists will find every reason and excuse for the alleged killing of this little girl. Because a child is naughty or whines is a reason to kill? The problem with society today and not only in Israel is that people have forgotten what is right and what is wrong. When you murder innocent people, whether by terrorism or "collateral damage" or you kill a child, there should be mandatory death penalty. It must be mandatory or our judges will just point a finger at the killers and say : Nu, Nu, Nu! Now let our President of the Supreme Court whine and wail about critics of the judiciary which is the joke of the country!
10. Outrageous crime.
Palestinian   (08.26.08)
11. And still no death sentence for terrorists? WHY?
Arie ,   BaGolan   (08.26.08)
He is no less a terrorist than hamass, abbas, barghouti, nazirallah, and all their ilk!
12. Rose
Millicent ,   Israel   (08.26.08)
May you find the peace that you never found in life. As for her Grandfather,,he should be locked up and beaten like he beat Rose, then after a thorough beating he should be put down like the animal he is. Israel needs the death penality for child abusers and terrorist ! A child abuser is a terrorist to a child! As for her mother, and others the mom should be jailed for the rest of her life never to be let out,and anyone else who had a role in this child's tragic life. If the child was unwanted as it stated in other articles in the Israeli papers, the y could have surrendered custody to Social services ,who would have found a home for this lovely little girl. Any number of families would have lined up to adopt her!
13. hang the sob
haim ,   mtl canada   (08.26.08)
14. ROSE
A FATHER ,   ISRAEL   (08.26.08)
One cannot comprehend the horror this innocent and beautiful little girl went thru. It must have been horrifying and those responsible for her terrible death should be hanged, to say the least. Such people don't deserve to live! But the LAW is the LAW!!!!
15. How is this possible ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.26.08)
Children who are so confident with their parents , grandparents , how can they be deceived ? How can a mother and a grandfather do such a thing ? Sad , very sad .....
16. may g-d have mercy on all our souls
me ,   nes ziona   (08.26.08)
Rose isn't the only child out there in danger. We failed her as a community. And what are we going to do about it now? Let's wake up before it happens again.
17. #7 Y NItzan- Whats wrong with you?
Simon ,   TA Israel   (08.26.08)
Show some respect to the memory of this little girl. It has nothing to do with secular of religious. Have you forgotten the horrendous crime of torture and child abuse by a ultra orthadox women reported a few months ago. Have some respect , if your capable of it!
18. Was tha confession obtain with out Inducement, threat ...
YITZAK BEN SHLOMO   (08.26.08)
and violence, wait an see, was there any oppression, threat to life an limb of that granfather who made the confession ? It is becoming a sick society, DESPITE ALL THAT COMANDS DONT MURDER- STILL THIS THSI AHAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN. Earlier there was abuse commited by religious jews not this is a secular one. Why this idots get married, bring children into tis world and MURDER them ? I dont understand ! Let me tell you, we jews are the very lawyers who will get these criminal out,- no body no case. Herbus Corpus- bring in the body ! or the remains ! IF that confession is true they must look corroboration too. Undre the Israeli Law isnt there as a matter of law for crime of this kind one which is of serious nature ? Isnt it a rule of prudence and practise. This case if the i9d it result on conviction by uncorrobborated evidence that old man ( even if he really murderd) would escape on appeal. The police must get the evidence, bring in the body or the remains , whatever relevant to the fact in issue to prove actus reus and mens reus. Intention and mallice by action. Look like manslaughter second degree ! How could the police release such information- is investigation complete already ? what a drama. This case is not water thight !
19. #17, you proved Y, Nitzan's point
Mike ,   Atlanta GA   (08.26.08)
20. what a pity
rl ,   israel   (08.26.08)
what a pity he did not commit suicide would save years of keeping him locked up. worthless person who is obviously sick in the head to hit a child so hard that he killed her .i hope that in prison he is treated by his fellow inmates to daily torture
21. To all...
EYS ,   Montreal Canada   (08.26.08)
Israel is no different from any country. My father was a policeman in Haifa and Akko in the late 60s and in the 70s. When I was older, he used to tell me all the horrible criminal affairs he covered with his squad in the Haifa Police. It was unbelievable. I could tell you a lot of these details, but I don't have to prove my point. Most of the time, this crime took place within secular jewish israeli family, usually employee or the lower class. I pray for the memory of this little girl, Rose. And I also pray for the techuva of her mother. I don't pray for the lost soul that was her grandfather. He deserves the utmost severe sentence.
22. This is some strange family. I'm so sorry
(08.26.08)
that there wasn't anyone there to really care for little Rose who eyes seem to be full of tears in photos i've seen so far.
23. #17 YEH RIGHT
shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (08.26.08)
your reply when the story broke of the charedi women was that bcharedi where were the rabbis? and with their archaic life style and battered women it doesnt surprise you. funny ,you have no respect for life unless its on your terms. get some help gf you need it.
24. a soapopera fitting the dog days of August!
all so very sad   (08.26.08)
25. Passing a law to allow parents to surrender a child to
Rivkah   (08.26.08)
a hospital and give up custody when they cannot cope is starting to happen in America to protect children, not just babies. If the mother is stressed out during pregnancy or if a child is sexually molested, the child often becomes an out of control child as a result. A loving mother and father can cope somehow, but it is difficult. My sister's first child screamed for up to four hours at a time and would have to be dragged or carried out of stores if she did not get a toy she wanted, with her legs and arms flapping and screaming at the top of her lungs, even when she was four years old. She stressed out her father so much, he could no longer work from stress induced illnesses and my sister had to support the family. She would never have surrendered her child or given up custody, but many parents are not that resilient or loving. Her grandfather at one point told her mother not to bring her near him again, the child was so out of control. This child in the article might still be alive if Israel had a surrender custody law for parents to drop off children and give up custody without questions asked.
26. #17 U have nothing to say!
SECULAR   (08.26.08)
SECULAR!!!!! Yes this is normal in the SECULAR world thats why thereis no need to mention SECULAR. SHAME ON YOU
27. Such a Sad Story
muriel ,   israel   (08.26.08)
Her mother who it is said did not want her - should have given her up for adoption. This is almost unbelievable but of course sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
28. To #16 Me - Why wasn't he there for Rose and the others?
David ,   Karmel, Israel   (08.26.08)
Maybe He failed her, little Madelaine McCann and the so many other abused children and people of all races, creeds and faiths who inhabit this planet! The basic fact is that it has nothing to do with Him. We, the religious, the secular and whatever else there is have forgotten what is right and what is wrong! People complain about how the kids behave, Just have a good look at their parents and in the mirror! We live in a totally undisciplined society and a legal system that literally lets people get away with murder because we protect the rights of the criminals and forget about the rights of the victims.
29. EKHS. Morally corrupt
Salameh ,   Gaza, Palestine   (08.26.08)
Not only he cheated his OWN son, but he murdered his OWN grandchild. Occupation corrupts from within indeed.
30. 7 Y: That is because Haredi are held to a higher standard.
Rivkah   (08.26.08)
God usually gives peace to the Haredi children I have seen in Israel and on airplanes that non-Haredi children do not seem to have. Not all religious people know the Lord, but those who really do are given powers from the Lord like peace, patience, understanding, etc. that others do not have.
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