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Bibi: Schools should teach Ben Gurion, not Nakba
Niv Lillian
Published: 26.08.08, 20:34
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1. Israel Teaches the 'Nakba'?
Bill ,   US   (08.26.08)
I'm shocked. Do you teach Germans being golden Aryan gods before Jews polluted their blood too? I know that sounds sarcastic but you never know with Israel.
2. Teaching BG
David ,   Haifa   (08.26.08)
It would be interesting to teach Israeli students more about what DBG and Jabotinsky wrote about our Arab neighbors, that is true. But you do not have to adopt the Arab name for the flight of hundreds of thousands of Arab residents of pre/proto-state Israel in order to be able to talk honestly about the consequenses that the foundation of this state had for those who would later be called Palestinians. Believing that you can achieve any ( positive ) educational or scientific revolution by totally distorting or ignoring facts is disillusional, typical for the way in which Bibi ( not unlike many Israelis, right and left wing ) thinks. What is next, ordering schools to teach creationism?
3. Israel is already awesome, primed for Bibi
Vered, Israel   (08.26.08)
No country has EVER done so much in so little time. It's AWESOME living here. While no one is perfect, Bibi included, he knows what makes Israel great, and what can make us greater: honor to our incredible past, and preparation for our future.
4. nakba
gilby ,   israel   (08.26.08)
Of course Israel teaches the nakba and also allows Haredi schools to cut maths and English from their curricula. The entire school; system is completely politicised. Whoever is the minister of education slashes and adds what ever they feel could best serve THEIR political agenda. No thought for future educators or the future of the country
5. Yeah right!?
Yosi ,   Center   (08.26.08)
I agree teachers should perhaps get higher salaries BUT are you the right person???? after robbing so cruelly from the poor and elderly in your recent past. We shall not forget !!!
6. Wonderful. But the finance ministry won't pay for this.
Logic ,   Israel   (08.26.08)
7. this government doesnt belive in a jewish state whats new
zionist forever   (08.26.08)
No other government has gone out of its way to harm Israels security and political interests as much as this one. No other PM has been stained so badly with coruption scandals. No other government has been so unpopular. No other government has acted so dictaitorial like flatly refusing the public an election when they demand it and making all kinds of backroom deals with other parties to make sure it doesnt happen because they know they will loose. No other government has ever formerly put arab propoganda onto the official school curiculum and has at the same time taken out the theories of zionists like Jabotinsky whch Yuli Tamir the education minister has done. The attitude seems to be that we want the next generation to grow up thinking that our very existence is wrong and we should work towards the dismantling of the jewish state, send the jewish imgrants home and hand over the land to the arabs. Its amazing how low they can sink Ben Gurion and all the other men and women that made Israel great would be turning over in their graves if they know how this country is being run today. If this was pre Israel this bunch would be telling holocaust survivors to go back to Germany and this land was for the arabs and jews have no right to be here.
8. teaching
alan ,   texas   (08.26.08)
teach all in Israel and territories about the ethics of Judaism. Broadcast sound bites into the territories and eventually the children will start asking unanswerable questions.
9. REMEMBER THIS IS NATANYAHU.........
AVROHOM BILGREI   (08.26.08)
HE ALWAYS SAYS THE RIGHT THINGS WITH IMPECABLE REFINEMENT AND COMPORTMENT BUT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE'S ANY LESS OF A DEGENERATE REPROBATE !
10. BIBI IS GREAT
FAD EGYPT   (08.26.08)
NO ONE HAS LOOKED TO THE EDUCATION SITUATION AND TALKED ABOUT HIS OR HER PLANS TO IMPROVE EXCEPT BIBI AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME BIBI TALKS ABOUT HIS PROPOSALS TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION HE TALKED EVEN BEFORE THE NAKBA ISSUE REPLACED THE ZIONISM BIBI IS TRUE LEADER VOTE LIKUD IN NEXT ELECTION HE WILL BUILD THE COUNTRY SHALOM
11. Bibi fiddles while Jerusalem burns
David G   (08.26.08)
I am sorry but this sounds like a half empty political promises. In all likelihood Bibi will give the education post to Labor if they win the next election. We all know this to be true so why do we not just say it.
12. stop teching bulshit history and concern in math and physics
da   (08.26.08)
stupids!!!
13. We all know how well education did when BiBi was PM.
Lenny ,   Israel   (08.26.08)
14. Bibi is a walking nakba....
(08.26.08)
15. The Beebster strikes back. Big time!
Gideon Reader   (08.26.08)
Well THAT sounds like an educated plan to me. Give "Smolah Yuli" a nice pen, a hearty handshake, a kick in the tuchis and an lease on an apartment on Cream Street; bringing back the Jewish part of the Jewish State. It is not a Post-Zionist Israel, just some Ministers who are as dumb as a post.
16. In admitted defense of Bibi
Concerned Israeli   (08.26.08)
1 - Yes, Israel allows the Arab schools to teach the "nakba" and I agree it is downright Orwellian for any government to allow its citizens to be educated that Independence Day was a "disaster." 5 - Yes, Bibi cut public spending in order to save the country from a recession, as inflation had reached a near all-time high. It was one of the most responsible actions any politician has ever taken, knowing that he would be castigated by all the socialist, pro-wealth redistribution leeches. Look around the world and realize what Bibi already knows: that capitalism brings wealth and prosperity, while socialism brings stagnation and strife. 9 - Instead of attacking Bibi's character with baseless dribble, try and make at least one rational comment in support of your argument that you dislike him.
17. Talk ,talk and more talk ,you just cannot
Eric....... ,   Israel.......   (08.26.08)
believe the man.He made promises before and never kept one.Bibi is a opportunist snob.
18. #1 - only since Olmert installed Julie Tamir
redmike ,   Tel Aviv   (08.26.08)
Tamir has tried to remove all Israeli history (60 years) from text books and to replace it with Arab history thereby making Israeli kids feel guilty about serving in the IDF. She is an embarrassment to the vast majority of Israelis but Olmert's plan was to only install ministers that would support him through thick and through thin. He doesn't or didn't care what Tamir taught as long as he could count on her vote. Mike
19. #11 - maybe but not to Tamir ..
redmike ,   Tel Aviv   (08.26.08)
20. #13 - you say 'we; but your post says nothing .
redmike ,   Tel Aviv   (08.26.08)
Please .. if you have something to say then say it. No one has any idea what you are talking about so explain it. Mike
21. Teach Israeli History only
Great White North ,   Canada   (08.27.08)
In a public educational system, the nations history should be taught. All fictional propaganda should be kept out.
22. What Israel Should Also Teach
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (08.27.08)
Yes only a fool would deny the suffering by Arabs that left or were displaced from modern day Israel. One would also be equally foolish to ignore the massive displacement of Jewish Arab residents of Eqypt, Iraq, Yemen, Algeria, etc that were kicked out and had all property confiscated. I have relatives that grew up speaking Arabic and French and were kicked out of Alexandria, had real estate, businesses and other property stolen by the Egyptian government and arrived in Israel with nothing but the clothes on their back. Israel is honest enough to teach the suffering of the Palestinians and should continue to do so. Why do the Arab countries not teach the suffering of their Jewish residents that were beaten, imprisoned, robbed and expelled?
23. BIBI WHAT????????????????????
JEW ,   Tel Aviv   (08.27.08)
Teach What? How about start from our beginning forefathers; Abraham, Yitzchak, Yaakov, Moshe, Aaron..... David, Shlomo hamelech..... How about Mitzrayim, Har Sinai, Bait Hamikdash How about G-d & his Torah which is what all the above is all about. Israel did NOT start in 1948.
24. We can't change history, let's ignore it ?!
Bibi is a liar   (08.27.08)
Maybe Netanyahu can also remove 40 years of brutal occupation from the history books.
25. Re 2
Galut ,   Selah   (08.27.08)
"What is next, ordering schools to teach creationism? " ====== Nothing wrong with that if it is objectivly taught
26. #9 You havea better candidate?
ben Ish   (08.27.08)
then say so
27. Israel should teach BOTH
Aharon   (08.27.08)
The Nakba is the national narrative of our enemies. There's no use ignoring it, nor is there any use ignoring the tragedy that befell the Palestinian refugees. Teaching Zionism does not mean ignoring history - we should do both.
28. It's either Netanyahu or.......
Robert ,   USA   (08.27.08)
Or someone who will take a stand and stay there. And the only reason there was a nakba is because the crazy leftists wanted to be like the US with the Blacks and Indians. Only in Israel the natives and oppressed were winning, so they had to make something up to have hippy protests about to be like America.
29. #24 - dumbass-ity at its best....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.27.08)
You probably think a unified Jerusalem in '67 was brutal....
30. Bibi is right, especially if America commits Obamicide
Gershon   (08.27.08)
With Iran close to having nuclear weapons and the U.S. getting close to electing the pro-Palestinian Obama, Israel may have no one to count on except itself. Why would any citizen want to defend their country if they were ashamed of it? The Nakba version of Israeli history must be purged from the classroom.
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