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Rabbi accuses Peace Now of grave sin
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 29.08.08, 07:54
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1. The Rabbi is right
Leah ,   Israel   (08.29.08)
Tale bearing is a great sin also throwing a Jew out of their home and land is a great sin and is punished by death. This land was given to the Jewish people by Hashem for eternity. This one piece of land no bigger than a postage stamp on the map is ours and will always be ours. the Palestinians have 22 Arab States to choose including The Palestinian State of Jordan.
2. the hidden danger
Michael ,   Haifa   (08.29.08)
In the meantime we are still a secular democracy (albeit a shaky one). Men like this Rozen character strive for a pre-medieval state, in accordance with halacha. It is easy to laugh off such bizarre jokers as Rozen, but when we look around ourselves in the 21st century, and take note of Iran, the Taliban of Afghanistan, Saudia Arabia, Northern Nigeria, Sudan, we ought to recognize the hidden danger of Rozen and his like-minded clerics.
3. Peace Now does more to kill and injure...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (08.29.08)
Peace Now does more to kill, injure and incite hatred than any halachic ruling ever has. Oppenheimer's complaints are completely without justification...
4. If it walks like a duck ....
moriah ,   sacramento, CA   (08.29.08)
You can squawk all you want. Go ahead and get hysterical, filled with righteous indignation. That won't change the truth. Peace Now is filthy with moser. What, you thought taking EU money and slandering good Jews and getting them thrown out of their homes was a good idea? You thought Oslo was a glowing success? You were wrong then, and and now you are wrong again. You're guilty of hatred of you're own brother. You are a tale bearer and you GET PAID to bring misery down on their heads...
5. Yariv, you're right there should be legal action against
David ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.29.08)
incitement and calls to murder. Your organization has consistently said lies, has incited, and by your very action incited the arabs to murder us. Yes, the authorities should not stand for this vileness. And if you are so against illegal construction, then why don't you protest the 140,000 illegal arabs structures and the fact that they are built on land that belongs to JNF and others, not one of these properties are theirs? Why don't you protest that? You are totally dishonest and without scrupels.
6. Some in the Left have made allies with the devil.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (08.29.08)
The Left has betrayed its own principles of universal human rights and equality when it has put its lot with that of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Iranian Ayatollahs and their bagmen in Hamas and Hezbullah. More about correcness at : http://xrl.us/bi5da
7. We will also take back our land in Galilee
Palestine forever ,   Palestine   (08.29.08)
Your kibbutzes and cities also are built on our land; Tel Aviv University is built on our land, Asquelon is built on our land, Safed is ours and Tiberias is ours, Yafo is ours and Bersheeba is ours. You will return our land and return to Europe.
8. The Land of Israel belongs 2 Israel Palestinians came from
sam ,   USA   (08.29.08)
Egypt:Genesis 10-13.Help the Paleatinians return to their home in Egypt
9. The Obvious Danger - Peace Now
Sally ,   Carmiel   (08.29.08)
10. Rabbi Rozen
Henry Weil ,   Jerusalem   (08.29.08)
Once again the messianic Rabbi goes wild,afet one murder for the use of Rodef or Moser an incitement to kill,based on a very one sided interpretation of Halacha, what is very suspicious is that all, these self appointed religious leaders seem to have decided that there are not 613 commandements but only one, meaning LAND, that allows to give up the Education Minsitry to the secular left, would the Rambam agree doubtful, this is the definition of extemisim.
11. moser
Moshe Pinhas ,   Nahariya   (08.29.08)
This is right. They are moserim. The question whether settlements are a good thing or not is less important than the need to answer and to treat these people who think that it is OK to sell themselves to those who practiced massive killings of non-christian for 2000 years.( European gentiles)
12. "Peace Now" strange name for a hate organization
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (08.29.08)
13. Kol Hakovod!
Ely ,   Pardes Chana   (08.29.08)
To the Rabbi!!!!!!! Peace Now is a Dangerous Group that Hate's Jewish Idea's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14. My vote is for Maimonides.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (08.29.08)
Whenever I see reports about Peace Now or any of the other NGO's & "peace" organizations, I always recall the writings of Maimonides on the subject of informers. If you study Jewish history, then you will see the terrible scourge these informers have been to Jewish communities throughout the centuries. It hasn't changed today & the opinion of Maimonides is just as valid for our times.
15. Do Peace Now really want peace now?
Gimple   (08.29.08)
If Peace Now really want peace, instead of putting all their energies into stopping Jewish settlement in the west bank, but rather they should educate the Arabs and make them tolerant enough to allow Jews to live there, just as the Israeli’s let Arabs live in Israel, then that will achieve real peace.
16. more a case of aiding the enemy
eddie ,   london, UK   (08.29.08)
They are not actually handing over anything, it is the leftist government that does this. The group who uses the word "peace" in their name, is actually a 5th column, who serves enemy interests and is trying to destroy the Jewish people and nation.
17. Peace Now and etics
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (08.29.08)
This "organization" Peace Now has a big problem of ethics, for sure they didn't learn that in school. Ethics mean that you cannot commit a big sin in order to make others come to what you think is "the right way" Ethics means that if you think that your ideas are more important than the suffer of your people and you allow and promote the destruction of communities you are being conceited, thinking you are so great that others must follow or disappear. Ethic means that if you receive a salary from the enemies of your country, no matter you are right or not, you are a traitor! and of course deserve "karet" (that is NOT stop breathing)
18. Kosher informing and Unkosher informing
Arielush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (08.29.08)
Just earlier this week Rabbi Zalman said that it is kosher to inform on a friend to protect the faith. Now Rabbi Rozen is saying that Peace Now committed a sin against the religion for informing on settlers. Do our value scales change according to who is committing the sin. In my eyes Peace Now was right. The settlers are endangering all our lives by continuing to settle on land that is not their own.
19. If Rozen Recognizes the "Palestinians"
Bill ,   US   (08.29.08)
he is just as guilty.
20. The Love for peace
Reuven Lunkhel ,   Kiryat Arba   (08.29.08)
There are millions of thoughts in our mind and everybody has free will but the Plan that God does and will do from the begining of creation stands still and ferm. No human being has the power to change it. In that God gave the land of Israel to the Nation of Israel, and not to this goim. The words of God will surely be fulfill onday and those liable to be punished shall bear thier sin with them and not with the nation as a whole. The nation of Israel, the Land and Torah will never depart from Hashem and Hashem guide them and guard them.
21. our own mistake
Thongminthang ,   Israel   (08.29.08)
Some of us (Jews) says Tel Aviv is our's and like Khevron is not our's. This is a very silly mistake. Where is the word Khevron found? Who first live here and where did King David first raigned? Go back to ancient history not modern history. If someone who has not even live in here before the 16th century can claimed this is my land why not I do I am the want whom my forefathers live in here for thousands of years before this Arabs live in here. They have no rights to claimed this is my land in the land of Israel. You Arabs are not Palistanins. Why should you claimed the right of the Palistanians who live long before the Arabs and vanist now? You fools study not only the one way of death and learn what is the truth and right way both.
22. Peace Now = Hatred Now
Barlev Haokip ,   Israel   (08.29.08)
It is very shamefull for us to heard the word Peace "Shalom" with such a leftist org. who does not even know who they are. First a person should know who he is who God is and then talk about peace because it is the way of God. A person who does not even know and believe in Hashem can't talk about it. The meaning of peace which this leftist talk about is just a beneficiary peace for worldly pleasures and not the one long lasting peace. So, anyone dealing with the nation cause should know both the spiritual side of man and the mundane side too in order to be the light unto the nation. May God help us in building our national security both physically and spiritually.
23. IN the Us there is an Alien and Sedition Act,
JMK ,   NY   (08.29.08)
these are lunatics and crazies and to say they are worse than apostates misses the point they are apostates to christianity with its 450 pieces of jew hatred in only 250 pages, all based upon the biggest lie of the western world, the non existense of god man.
24. No. 7, study history and not the fabrication thereof.
Prof. R. Bar-On ,   Israel   (08.29.08)
Once again, you are radically distorting history as has often been the case with fascistic and imperialistic entities who tend to re-write what has actually occurred. It was the Arab (coming from the word “Arabia”) who came from outside of the geographic area of the Land of Israel, captured Jewish lands (from the word “Yahuda” which is at the heart of the Land of Israel surrounding by the Jewish city of Jerusalem) and illegally continued to settle these lands from the 6th and 7th centuries onward. It is you, the Arab (from “Arabia”) who is the foreigner in this land. Go back to Arabia, and re-read history (and review fairly current DNA studies of the Jews presently living in Israel). It will willingly direct you to sources (local as well as foreign including Arab) to educate you in the actual historical events that occurred here.
25. Rabbi sued for wanting to fight terror with terror...
marlene ,   Philadelphia, USA   (08.29.08)
You're ABSOLUTELY right, Rabbi Rozen! G-d bless you for your courage.
26. What about freedom of speech?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (08.29.08)
Rabbi Rozen has pointed out the Jewish law has a penalty for such behavior. And now that is considered a crime? No, no and again no. There was no incitement in any shape or form. This is moronic to even consider it. This is shades of fascism pure and simple
27. rabbi rozen
fred lazin ,   tel aviv israel   (08.29.08)
a little surpised at your reporters. giving this rabbi such a play. in plain english or hebrew its a death threat to someone he disagrees with. This is not an acceptible means of political interaction in a democratic system of politics which israel supposedly has. So we are to get excited because he quotes scripture or Jewish tradition to call for the killing of his opponents or for those whose opinion he does not share. He should be charged with violation of the law. Or is it permissible to call for the killing of law abiding citizens whose crime might be "lying". fred lazin
28. Who cares?
Ben ,   Monroe, USA   (08.29.08)
So another rabbi has spoken. Typical of those who wish to be sole interpretors of Torah. Violation of Israeli law?? Who knows what Israeli law really is.!! Torah?? There are so many interpretations so any posek may be right or wrong. Problem being the fools who accept some rabbi's words as Toranic and act upon them as was done to Rabin. Jewish murder.
29. freedom of speech
AVROM ,   bet shemesh   (08.29.08)
does not include incitement to murder,violence or supporting the enemy and treason
30. #24, Prof.
David ,   USA   (08.29.08)
Where can I obtain these current DNA studies. That holds great interest for me. The last I heard only the Cohen gene had been isolated. Is there something more current than this? Thank you. David
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