News
The price of (Italian) occupation
Associated Press
Published: 30.08.08, 15:57
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
25 Talkbacks for this article
1. IS IT A BAD JOKE ? EUROPE SURRENDERS TO ARABS
(08.30.08)
2. ''colonization'' brought only positive effects for Africa !!
(08.30.08)
3. imagine lybia today if there were no italian occupation
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (08.30.08)
it's be just another 3rd world backwater african version of afghanistan. but that just might be to their liking.
4. This is nothing more than Italy once again paying terrorists
not to hurt them. ,   Blood money realy.   (08.30.08)
5.  Ransom
Berry ,   US   (08.30.08)
I gather Italy will be getting more oil from Libya now. A better deal for Italy than its prior one hosting and harboring active terrorists from immunity
6. It should become a precedent
Lebanese observer ,   Beirut   (08.30.08)
I think Israel should start saving to pay compensation for their occupation to Lebanese, Phalestenian & Syrian territories for all these years.
7. # 6 Read what the Italians said
Bill   (08.30.08)
"It is a material and emotional recognition of the mistakes that our country has done to yours during the colonial era," The Libyans didn't attack Italy,unlike what the Arab armies did to the Jews. It's not exactly the same now is it?
8. Stupidity !
Septimus ,   Rome   (08.30.08)
It is really a shame ! I voted for Berlusconi because he is ha d better views for the futur eof Italy. But this time I don't understand him. We owe nothing to Lybia. We brrought them civilization. If not the italians they will be today at the status of afghanistan. By the way the Romans occupied already taht territory well before arabs swarm it centurie slater. No remorse, no regrets. We can be proud of what we are !
9. I think Italy needed to make sure
Joe ,   Ohio, USA   (08.30.08)
Gaddafi had the cash on hand to cover the Libyan Pan Am Flight 103 bombing settlements. Can't have the arabs actually having to pony up in any way for their actions now can we?
10. #7, save up still
Papajay   (08.30.08)
i dont know what everyone is smoking on this board, being attached gives you the right to self defend, not to annex the country/people that attacked you! Iraq attached Kuwait, they were repelled, no one said Kuwait had the right to occupy Iraq. who did the palestinians attack in 48? 67? come on now, who are you fooling? Israel would have found a reason to take the west bank, Golan even if arabs didnt give them a reason. look at your hold to the land now.. wake up already!!!! there are 4 million living among you that regard you as enemy, and sending them to Jordan, well i dont even hear that option even mentioned in israeli leadership anymore. so if you believe it will happen, Please pass the pipe, i want some too!!
11. Septimus maximus, when was the last time Italy ...
Persian CAT   (08.30.08)
"brought ...civilization" to anyone, anywhere?!!! Italy is compensating the victims of an Italy's fascists for viciously, illegally and criminally occupying people's homeland that had not posed any threat to them. Colonialism, roman and all other kinds, is a crime against humanity and its victims must be compensated and its perpetrators must be persecuted before international courts . Your favorite politician, Berlusconi is a fraud and an corrupt mediaman and people like you morons deserve him. Is THAT what you're proud of? Italy's paying compensations to the victims of various Italian fascist and right wing governments server as an excellent precedence to pave the road to force Israel to compensate its victims of occupation. That day just got closer.
12. reply to # 10 Papajay
Bandar ,   Beirut, Lebanon   (08.30.08)
Very well said.
13. # 7
Bill ,   US   (08.30.08)
The Kuwaits also weren't the ones defending their country. America did that and ever since America has occupied Iraq, particularly in the Kurdish regions and maintains a presence in Kuwait and KSA. Who did the Palestinians attack in 1948 and 1967? Nobody. They hadn't been invented yet. "being attached gives you the right to self defend, not to annex the country/people that attacked you! " Then why should stop the Arabs from repeating an "attach" if they don't risk anything? And if they didn't believe they could gain terriroty by attacking Israel in 1948 and 1967 then what was their objective? Try to answer honestly.
14. Will the Brits pay Israel for their occupation
David ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (08.30.08)
And the fact that they went against the Mandate when they brought in thousands of Muslims from every country they could think of, from 1918 to 1948? Will they compensate Israel for the close to 6 million that died in the Holocaust when they refused Hitlers request to move them to Israel. Will the repay us for stealing the eastern portion of what was supposed to be Israel and gave it to one of the Hussain brothers and called it Jordan? This is beyond any crime against humanity. Where is the payment? Where is their remorse?
15. #6 So if Israel paid 5 Billion dollars...
David G   (08.31.08)
If Israel were to pay 5 Billion dollars to Lebanon alone in the same manner that Italy is doing will Lebanon agree to a peace treaty with Israel and to effectively end Hezbollah’s military plans? If your answer is yes then I will be one of the first to save up and give money to the cause. If your answer is no then please sit down and shut up.
16. #10 - what if land was used to launch attacks?
ZS ,   USA   (08.31.08)
What if the only way to self-defend is to occupy the land from which you were attacked, to try to reduce as much as possible the chance of being attacked again? It is like if you intend to kill me, and you point your gun at me, and I take your gun away from you, and then you cry and scream to the world (and the UN) about how it is YOUR gun, *I* have no right to this gun, the gun has been in YOUR family for years and years, blah blah blah... ...It doesn't matter, I will not give the gun back to you until your intentions toward me change. ..and you can continue to cry or complain about the hassle of your everyday life, or how I control borders to your town, or how I control your airspace, or how I control anything... and you will ask: "Well how can you expect me not to try to kill you when I have to endure checkpoints, control of my borders, control of my airspace, etc...?" And I would say "Sorry...but regardless of the hassles of your daily life, I am NOT going to give you this gun back while you still intend to kill me" I think that is basically what it boils down to.
17. zionist forever
zionist forver   (08.31.08)
Gadafi recently accused the families of the Lokerbie bombing as being greedy and wanting to profit from the disaster that happened to their relatives when they demanded compensation for the hijacking. Typical arab attitude you owe me but I will never owe you anything ... its what made the arabs such masters of propoganda.
18. ARABS SHOULD PAY FOR USURPING JEWISH LAND LAND
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (08.31.08)
ARABS ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS ITALIANS,THEY HAVE FORCED ISRAEL TO PART WITH JEWISH LAND INORDER TO COME TO A PHONEY NON EXISTANT PEACE.SIMILARLY JEWS WERE THROWN OUT OF ARAB LANDS IN WHICH THEY OWNED PROPERTY WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A "PRUTAH" COMPENSATION.HOW ABOUT DISCUSSING THIS?
19. # 14 And What About Kenya?
Thomas   (08.31.08)
The Brits brutally murdered 300,000 Mau-Maus in concentration camps for seeking independence. Brits feel not a bit of guilt for anything. It's far easier for them to impersonate people with souls and point the finger at others.
20. Make arabs pay reparations, G-d gave Israel to the Jews.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.31.08)
21. #6, 10 and 12
denon ,   USA   (08.31.08)
Before you start overjoying on how smart and clever you are - check the history and stop making stupid statements, that are also factually wrong. Being attacked gives the country every right to annex - not just self-defend, otherwise attackers could attack again and again. That is why Russia is holding on to what used to be the most German city: Kennigsberg - now Kaliningrad, to Kuril islands (used to be Japan), Pols got Oder-Neisse line. Here is more, since you are such experts on "international law": Among the provisions of the Potsdam Conference was a section that provided for the Orderly transfer of German populations. The specific wording of this section was as follows: "The Three Governments, having considered the question in all its aspects, recognize that the transfer to Germany of German populations, or elements thereof, remaining in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary, will have to be undertaken. They agree that any transfers that take place should be effected in an orderly and humane manner." Prepare for transfer of Pals to Egipt, Jordan and Syria. You can study the history with them together
22. 6
zionist forver   (08.31.08)
Sadly I think Israel will start shelling out billions to the palestians and Syria not because they deserve anything but because Israels political leaders today have this attitude that we should apologise to the world for our existence Our idiot left wing education minister has put the palestian nakba propoganda onto the Israeli school curriculum at the expense of zionism. The days when Israel was run by inteligent men and women who were interested in what was good for Israel was what mattered are over. Today the country is run by apologetic fools allways looking to say sorry for something that Israel has done and dont give a dam about Israel iteslf or the Israeli people. Its Syria & Iran who should be compensating Lebanon. The arab Legue should be compensating the palestians because they passed a law making it illigal for any arab state to give citizenship to palestians because they wanted to use them as a demographic weapon against Israel. Israel should be compensated by the arabs world for all the wars they have initiated in their desire to destroy Israel. The oil rich arab world should be compensating Lebanon, Palestians and Israel we shouldnt be trying to appease them.
23. To Persian cat 11
Septimus ,   Rome   (08.31.08)
Or to compensate the properties stolen to 1 million of Jews expelled from muslim countries after 1948... People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Don't you think so ? As for Italy, and before it from Rome, we brought even civilization to you barabarians, before you became muslims and lost that gift we gived to you..
24. Yoo Hoo - We're in the money!!!!!
JPS ,   Efrat   (08.31.08)
What a great precedent! The Italians, Greeks, Turks, Brits - heck, probably even the Syrians - owe us bigtime for 2000 years of occupation! Then we have to add on the compensation due to the millions of Israelis who were illegally kicked out of Morocco, Egypt, Iraq, Yemen and other Arab countries and had their assets seized (aka stolen). $5 billion is nothing compared to what we have coming to us! Gaddafi - get the tent ready!!!
25. I am happy to hear that!
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (08.31.08)
That's mean a great jurisprudence in our behalf ,in order to get payed for 2000years of occupation.We can start with Rome and then trace the way up to now.Many,many nations owe us trillions and trillions! I wish we start to get it back NOW!
Back to article