Just as I thought. Three days and total silence. If you can't proove what you are saying from Tanach then you should keep your mouth shut. Bowing down and worshiping the dead and saying prayers to them is idolitry plain and simple.

The gemara points out that yehoshua went to the mearas hamachpela to ASK THE HOLY ONES THERE TO PRAY ON HIS BEHALF so that he does not fall into the satanic trap of the miraglim. Rashi highlights this in Parshas Shlach. Rabeinu Yosef from Bagdad named many of his seforim on the names of the Ben Ish Chai because he achieved his levels after going to the tzion of the BIC in biriah and asking for brachos in holy spirituality. There are literally 100's of thousands of examples in gemara, poskim, rishonim and sod. Don't be lazy - lefum tzarah agrah. Tzadikim and Tzadekisim do not die - they are merely liberated from the slavery of their animal shell so when you ask them for brachot in their tzion, it is no different from when they were encased by their earthly shell except most people cannot hear their reply - But Boruch Hashem quite a few do! As far as R Nachman Hakodesh, he did not stipulate Rosh Hashana to the masses, he did so for his family. He stipulated visiting his body's resting place on any day . He also delivers. He actually still comes in visible form to some lucky people today to help them when necessary. Ignore this knowledge at your own peril.

I am not being vicious, I am rebuking untruth. For all the talk you gave and the examples cited, you included absolutely nothing from TANACH! This is what I ask for. This is the only authority. Torah She'baal-peh has authority only in the imaginations of the rabbi'im. Sh'ma! Say your prayers to the echad Elohim!

You boldly proclaim that you are an ignoramous and lazy to boot. You foolishly insult God and the holiest of his children like Moshe Rabeinu, Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai Maimionides, ARI and the Vilna Gaon. You are so pathetically ignorant you can't even comprehend their hliness, sacrifice and brilliance. Because the Torah doesn't permit debates with fools I will no longer respond to your stupidity. Until you openly attacked the Torah you seemed potentially sincere. This reply is for any sincere readers who happen to stumble on this out-of-the-way thread. Your apostasy places your lazy lusting views with the early christian, moslem and zadoki cults. Because of your pompous snideness you are actually inferior to beasts that are grateful for assistance. Incidentally your astonishingly foolish ignorance of Tanach is another reason for not giving ear to your mosquito-like nonsense, since every single portion of the Tanach was orally transmitted ONLY by the chachamim , OVER MANY HUNDREDS of Years and only written down when GOD decreed the finale of the written portion of the Torah. P.S. You have joked about the wrong subject. God and certainly I will not forgive you for your lowness and insolence. Do not imagine that the low worldy state of affairs where foolish apostates will continue indefinitely. At some juncture you will have to answer to heaven for your spiteful insults and hatred of the Torah -guarranteed.

Do you truly believe that people can see those "tsadikim" who died ? I could accept such affirmations from someone living in the middle ages , but in the 21 st century ? And regarding god , we have'nt see him [ does this exist ? ] during the Shoa . So don't come with your : he will not forgive you , as you wrote to David . If you say that David is a foolish apostate , i'll tell you , that believing such "stouiot" can only be done by an attarded fool

Well Koonish, I wasn't talking to you in the first place. You butted in where you were not invited. As for not talking to me any more. My poor heart is broken. Thank you for all your kind words and may you enjoy your freedom of worship there in Turkey.