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B'Tselem: Israel cutting off Gaza from West Bank
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Published: 10.09.08, 07:49
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31. To Hanna (wherever she lives)
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (09.10.08)
Hi Hanna, Are you Israeli? Do you live here If not please consider minding your own business, what you do is pure hatred, with no basic reason but your "impressions" about a conflict you don't know, you don't live and you don't belong to. Please go to hate elsewhere.
32. B'Tselem meet Hamas. Hamas... B'Tselem
Steve ,   Tel Aviv   (09.10.08)
Madness
33. Gaza
Joe ,   TA   (09.10.08)
This isn't some ruse to seperate the population, it's Israel's attempt to justifiably blockade Gaza, and Israel has ALWAYS promised that when there is peace, there will be a road under Palestinian control linking the West Bank and Gaza.
34. Hamastan and Fatah Land soon to be demolished.
Zion   (09.10.08)
35. Why call them a human rights group? They're inhuman rights
Toby ,   UK   (09.10.08)
Why take their language as your own? They are inhuman, internal enemies of the Jewish people and all mankind.
36. A loud silence
Raphael ,   Netanya   (09.10.08)
I never heard a word from those humanrightniks about the plight of jewish families split by police terror in Iran, Syria, Lebanon, who could be jailed or executed for only receiving a letter from their relatives in Israel.
37. #29, Asem
israeli ,   israel   (09.10.08)
Yes, I have thought about it, but I came to the conclusion that they are wrong. And the sooner we chase Al-jazeera out of Israel the better.
38. dividing PA families
alexi   (09.10.08)
Fine, sent them all to jordan. Arabs live only with jews to collect the benefits. They are backstabbers, a totally untrustworthy society where lie detectors don't work. All the israeli peaceniks including ami ayalon medal of valor winners can go to jordan with them. Livni runs around to kadima saying she will sign a deal with the PA. What is the big deal. Olmert demographicitis is making people hysterical. Contrary to peres' comments, the arab birthrate should be controlled like they do in china.Kadima really has to go to elections. The lots that lost leabonon, that lost to hamas, where deterrence was lost, cannot suddenly say we are the ones. Sharon carried this bunch of cowards and dumbells on his back-ramon, bar-on, hasson, hengby, sheetret and the turgeman and turbowitz clan. The whole lot of them should be shown the door.
39. Betselem a factory of lies
I. Barr ,   Detroit   (09.10.08)
B'Tselem has pulled it off again, duping the mainstream media into believing it has tallied civilian Palestinian casualties when it has done no such thing. The oft-cited organization bills itself as a human rights group devoted to rigorous documentation of Israeli conduct in the West Bank and Gaza aimed at educating the public and encouraging political action. Yet the so-called documentation continues to be marred by serious flaws that journalists routinely ignore while reporting the group's charges at face value. Among the most deceptive claims by the group are those embedded in its yearly statistical summary of Palestinian fatalities. B'Tselem reported in a Dec. 31, 2007 press release that in 2007 Israeli security forced killed 373 Palestinians and that "about 35 percent of those killed were civilians who were not taking part in the hostilities when killed." Despite the press release's statement about the percentage of those killed who were civilians, B'Tselem's data do not actually break down Palestinian casualties according to civilians or combatants. In most, but not all, cases the organization's detailed list of Palestinian casualties classifies each person as "Killed when participating in hostilities" or "Did not participate in hostilities when killed." Clearly, those in the latter category are not necessarily civilians, as a terrorist could be killed while, for instance, not directly in the process of planting a bomb or shooting a soldier. Moreover, B'Tselem almost never includes any reference to terrorist affiliations of Palestinian casualties, making it impossible for readers to know who was genuinely a civilian and who was not. Multiple inconsistencies and irregularities were found, some of which were continuations of last year's questionable methodology, including the organization's discounting of contradictory information from Israeli and Arab sources pointing to individuals' involvement in hostilities at the time of their death as well as the failure to identify terrorist affiliations. There were also new problems. For example, the death of an 11-year-old boy killed in Fatah-Hamas clashes is blamed on Israel, while B'Tselem leaves out the killing of two Palestinians, who according even to Palestinian sources, were Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades members attempting to infiltrate into Israel. For the November-December 2007 period, B'Tselem identifies 92 Palestinians killed by Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, of which 57 (62 percent) are identified as "Killed when participating in hostilities," and 23 (25 percent) are identified as "did not participate in hostilities when killed." The rest - 12 (13 percent) - were not labeled as either participating in hostilities or not when killed. December casualties reveals how unreliable B'Tselem's characterizations of Palestinian deaths are. • In total, there are six casualties that B'Tselem claimed were not involved in hostilities when killed but that other sources - Israeli and/or Arab - said were • In addition, three other Palestinian casualties not involved in hostilities when killed but whose terrorist affiliation B'Tselem ignored . • Then there are the two Hamas naval officers whose affiliation B'Tselem did note but who were nevertheless classified as not participating in hostilities. • To these 11 casualties, the death of an 11-year-old boy, which B'Tselem falsely blamed on Israel, must be added. Subtracting these 12 from the 23 counted as not participating in hostilities, leaves at most 11 (12 percent) Palestinian civilian deaths for the months of November - December - less than half the number of Palestinians that B'Tselem claims
40. How much longer are we going to tolerate these
S FREEDMAN ,   JERUSALEM UNDIVIDED   (09.10.08)
Scumbags.BAN THEM THEY ARE TRAITORS.
41. News flash for B'Tselem,
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.10.08)
Israel does not have to allow anybody to cross their territory period. That is an international law as part of the UN Charter. Remember that law idiots? Do Americans have the 'right' to cross Canada to go back and forth to Alaska? No they don't, Canada allows it because the Americans are not attempting genocide against Canadians, nor are they committing terrorism. So Canada is nice enough to allow that. We on the other hand have daily war-crimes committed against us. TFB B'Tselem,
42. to eya
hanna ,   jerusalem   (09.10.08)
first i like your name has a beutiful sound even i do not know what it means , and it is fine to be the name of a little pretty girl ... yes islam is the last religion it came 1500 years after judism but do you think the moslemes in palastine are not human descendants they believe in the new religion it is all
43. agree with no 6
sam t   (09.15.08)
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