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Israel: Jerusalem not on negotiating table
Roni Sofer
Published: 11.09.08, 19:08
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1. Israel - Watch your back
Jay ,   Usa   (09.11.08)
Rice is way over her head..
2. Israel: Jerusalem not on negotiating table
Yonatan ,   Jerusalem   (09.11.08)
what's all the fuss? Rabin relinquished east Jerusalem with the Golan Heights years ago. nothing to get on about.
3. WALLES IS REPLACEABLE...now
jewish doctor ,   SC   (09.11.08)
Get rid of this person WALLES who is either a shallow misleader, uninformed, or just myopic and quite frankly, stupid. But don't trust the arab rag to necessarily quote him correctly either. BUT, Walles should NEVER be allowed to give/trust any arab rag in an interview (without a JEW on his lap, on his shoulder or sitting next to him in the same room, so as to nudge him before he says something inapropos...) As far as Ms.Rice ( real lite) is concerned, her dismal track record reaches all around the world, from Iran to EU, Iraq to Egypt, etc. and is one very ineffective rep. that will go down in history with 8 years of non-events, and a tremendous loss of respect, prestige and power in the ME and everywhere else. She is another proof of Bush's inability to appoint anyone of effectiveness, substance and depth. (She is supposedly the AMERICAN "Russia expert "- as you can see her progress over the years has been a reversal of the good start the USA and Russia has had (but no more). Good riddance to her, oldemerde, and Bush 2, too! She is living in the 90's... and in past glories.
4. If true,shame on the US dictating to Israel
lea ,   sherman oaks ca usa   (09.11.08)
& Israel too! No country in the world has ever had to give up any land won in warfare..Why Israel??? Jerusalem has never been mentioned in the Qu'aran..This has been distorted by radical Islamists similiar to the Christians interpretation of Isaiah thinking he said Jesus was the Messiah..BS Is it oil that makes the US placate the pals or the many radical Muslims in the USA?
5. Jerusalem
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (09.11.08)
Why to make such a brawl about something everybody knows but Ely Yshay? Somebody really doubts Olmert, Livni, and all their friends follow orders of anti Israeli Condi? Common! We are doomed by our governors and by our "friends" and unless we open our eyes soon we will find ourselves buried alive!
6. Censorship
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (09.11.08)
Am I being censored by somebody over there? Would you mind explaining me why? I don't use dirty words, I don't insult. I simply state that Condi is anti Israeli is that so terrible?
7. ...DO MC.CAINE AND OBAMA AGREE?...
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (09.11.08)
8. To all the Bush/McCain huggers
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens, NY, USA   (09.11.08)
With all your abuse you are throwing at Obama, it looks like it's Bush and his clone McCain who is selling out Israel. Be careful who you think your friends are. (Palin wants Israel to be destroyed so Jesus can come back, but that's another talkback.)
9. Jacob Walles: Another Israel-threatening Jew
Jake   (09.11.08)
tries to fill the shoes of Henry Kissinger, who in 1973 gave the green light to Syria and Egypt to "give Israel a bloody nose", and was personally overruled by Nixon over the issue of weapons airlifts to Israel. New documentation has surfaced showing that back in 1975, Henry Kissinger was already promising the Iraqis under Saddam that "we can reduce Israel's size" and creating an internationally-recognized Palestinian identity and state. Here is the memo. Read it and weep: http://www.meforum.org/article/1032 Now along comes another "one of our own" in the State Department and makes the divsion of Jerusalem a fait-accompli? Folks, I hate to expropriate terminologies used by anti-Semites, but all self-respecting Jews must BEWARE OF THE JUDAS!
10. Read the FM/PMO statement carefully
Arie ,   BaGolan   (09.11.08)
They are not denying the accuracy of the Consul's statements, only that he stated it publicly. Once again, we see the backhanded attempts of a corrupt regime openly pushing to dismember the State
11. Israel
Israel   (09.11.08)
I hope there's some contingency plan in place for when we give everything back and their continual need for the destruction of Israel carries on. Olmert is being stupid if he thinks otherwise.
12. THERE ARE PROSTITUTES, COPS,
IERGLIB DRAWDE   (09.11.08)
POLITICIANS, VETRAN DIPLOMATS, CONSULS, LIERS,AND THEN THERE ARE CHILD MOLESTERS, AND MINISTERS IN SHAS, IN SOMETHING LIKE THE AFORMENTIONED ORDER !
13. Time for Israel to demand the US cede texas and CA to Mexico
David ,   Hartford USA   (09.11.08)
After all, it was theirs to begin with. So in reality, Israel has a stronger claim to Jerusalem than the USA has to Texas and California. Time for Condy to retire to academia.
14. #2. Rabin did not relinquish what he had no authority
Jake   (09.11.08)
to relinquish. The Prime Minister has no authority to relinquish lands that were formally annexed to Israel.There is no legal mechanism to do so in Israel or in any country on Earth. If Rabin made a promise under the table to relinquish east Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, then he perjured himself, because he publicly and forcefully declared that these areas would never be given up and would remain an inseparable part of Israel for all eternity.
15. WHEN ITS DENIED,TRANSLATION>ITS A DONE DEAL
..............DACON9   (09.11.08)
16. did you hear this? ,you traitorous ministers of SHAS
CHAIM ,   BROOKLYN NY   (09.11.08)
voters of israel PLEASE PLEASE,make sure in the next elections,that this traitorous criminal gangster party SHAS .is completely wiped of the political map
17. falling into the trap
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.11.08)
Israel ,never defeated by war is now in the proces of defeat and destruction by way of the Bush Road Map. The truth must be kept away from the dumbed down sheepl of ISRAEL headed for slaughter and that is why the PM is angry at Jake ,the mouth Walles.
18. American Diplomat's Statement
David Feigenbaum ,   Netanya, Israel   (09.11.08)
I think that Olmert suggested that Walles make the statement to test how strong Israeli opposition is to giving up Jerusalem. Since he already bought off Shas, now he wants to give away Jerusalem at no political cost to himself.
19. Rice violates Constitution on religion+Human Rights
sam ,   USA   (09.11.08)
20. #8. "Jesus-freaks" Paterson & Wingate created Jewish defense
Jake   (09.11.08)
in modern times, at a time when Jews were loathe to create organizations to defend themselves as a recognizable group, for fear of alienating the Gentiles or being accused of disloyalty. It was the British officer, an Irish Protestant Zionist, John Henry Patterson, who commanded the World War I Jewish Legion, which served as the ultimate antecedent of the IDF. The Jewish Legion fought in the British armed forces at Galipolli, and in the decisive Battle of Megiddo that wrested Palestine from the Ottomans. The Jewish Legion successfully forded the Jordan River in that battle. Had they not done so, Palestine would have probably either remained Ottoman or been handed over to the Hashemite allies of Britain lock, stock, and barrel. Orde Wingate was a British officer who was raised by the 'Plymouth Brethren', conservative Evangelical Christians. He was so adamantly in favor of a Jewish state, that he clashed with the British authorities and was ultimately kicked out and forbidden from returning to Mandate Palestine. The Haganah was originally an organization only designed for static defense against Arab attacks on Jewish settlements. Wingate is the one who organized the Hagannah as an organization which was capable of counterattacking and taking the battle into enemy territory, to the objection of many in the Jewish leadership itself (who were afraid of upsetting the British and Arabs). Wingate created the Special Night Squads, a combined force of British and Jewish soldiers which acted as an extremely effective counter-insurgency during the deadly Arab Revolt of '36-'39. The Special Night Squads came to be viewed as the British army's first special forces and the forerunners of the Special Air Service (SAS) regiments. (Who knew?!) Wingate was not some Bible-thumping preacher, setting the Jews up for a fall in some calamitous Armageddon scenario. His actions spurred on Jewish success on the ground and survival as a sovereign people in their land. Wingate's military imprint on Jewish defense directly led to the success of the IDF in 1948, and has saved countless Jewish lives. Without his help, Israel may well have never existed beyond the suburbs of Tel Aviv, if at all. On the other hand, Obama and his team are bringing along the "even-handed" policies of the US State Department, which, need I remind you, tried to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state in 1948 and are pushing for the division of Jerusalem as we speak.
21. Israel: Jerusalem not on negotiating table
Jo'el 3:2 ,   selah   (09.11.08)
in reality: we are not ready to pull back the curtin on the negotiations on the division of jerusalem.... kinda like in the wizard of OZ ...."never mind that man behind the curtian"
22. #8 You really ought to get your facts from someone other
than your friends at ,   IDIOT U. Billary   (09.11.08)
23. #8 Do you honestly think that your very biased rants are
going to scare us? ,   Grow up will you.   (09.11.08)
24. The West would do with Jerusalem as with Constantinople
Jake   (09.11.08)
when the Catholic West betrayed the Byzantines and allowed Constantinople to fall to Islam in 1453, allowing Rome to remain the undisputed seat and ruler of Christendom. The US State Deparment and its Western "friends and allies" would gladly hand Jerusalem on a silver platter to Islam, in a bid to "encourage moderate Islam" and make "new friends and allies". In the end, it will only hasten the victory of the "Islamic extremists" (as though such a division really existed).
25. So which liar are we to believe?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (09.11.08)
Olmert who appear to act as if Israel has neither just claims nor "red lines"; Clueless Condi, who sees Israelis ("whites") as oppressing the poor suffering Palestinians ("blacks"), and ignores her own President's policy doctrine (e.g. June, 2002 statement on Palestine, 2004 letter to Sharon); the Palestinians for whom lying is an art form (sanctioned, BTW, in the Koran); Shas who insist it can't be happening because, well, then they'd have to resign; or perhaps the State Department, still trying to undo the "mistake" of 1948, and ignoring the meaning of UNSC 242/338.
26. Why negotiate with Abbas who couldn't deliver pizza?
redmike ,   Tel Aviv   (09.11.08)
And Olmert is half or more out of the door. It seems that the press is making much ado about nothing. Mike
27. Comments by Walles
Arie ,   BaGolan   (09.11.08)
Neither consuls nor ambassadors make any comments without their respective ministries authorizing and scripting the comments. Hence, Walles' comments are straight from the US State Dep't and condi rice, who is seeking a job with a potential obama administration
28. HaShoah 2 has begun
Alkalai ,   USA   (09.12.08)
Don't ignore it, don't deny it. It has begun, and may the Hand of HaShem strike each and every goverment official, and organization, world wide, who joined to bring this about. Israel, you trusted your enemies rather than HaShem.
29. walles lets it out
alexi   (09.12.08)
So now we know what ehud had promised US. He should hang like mussolini for damaging israel. All he does is concede with nothing in return. Check back on U tube for debate between kahane vs olmert. Olmert is a coward who is taking israel into the gas chamber. He and his will exsperience in their future the fury of israelis.
30. Dayeinu
Bernie ,   Seattle, WA   (09.12.08)
If McCain deep sixes Rice-----Dayeinu Obama can't get rid of her she be a sistah (trouble is Obama is not African- he is half white half Arab)
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