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Settlers slam 'IDF failure'
Efrat Weiss
Published: 13.09.08, 22:53
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1. Congratulations to the arab men.
Uzziel   (09.13.08)
To stab a 9 years old boy. No wonder they lose every war when confronted with 18-21 years old boys...
2. "settlers" accoding to Ynet
YOEL ,   Ra'nana   (09.13.08)
Human Beeings according to me. time has come for us to change israelis' point of view. Jews must make a choice, and decide to which side they belong. I have nothing to do with palestinians, and stabbing a child shows how arabs can behave cowardly. I don't care about this terrorist's motivations. The only thing important to me is THAT CHILD. He is one of my brothers' son AT FIRST. We shouldn't condemn those "settlers" if they decide behaving violenly. Palestinians should be scared and stop thinking any jew is a legitimate target. As a reminder: 70 soldiers were able to have a full power on Gaza 25 years ago. Now, this number is not enough even for protecting Hevron. What happened to us, that we have lost our deterrence?? Bet'selem, Machsom Watch, Shalom achshav....
3. IDF will do nothing
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.13.08)
They work for Olmert who works for Bush who works for the countries that keep the U.S. from sinking. Dear John letter from the U.S. to Israel Dear Israel, Things have rapidly deteriorated out of control for the grand imperial empire as our economy is collapsing and only the spin and lies of the media keep our holy dollar from collapsing and sinking us like the Titanic. Iran and Russia and the rest of the world can see our precarious situation but we must keep the illusion alive for our dumbed down masses back home. The bread and media circus routine works well to keep them occupied. Some of our non pagan advisors think that the God of Israel is judging us for pushing our false peace Road Map down your throat and our perverse wickedness,arrogance and greed which we export across the globe ? We just had another storm today hit Texas which will drain at least $100 billion possible even more from our empty coffer's and we can't keep the printing presses runing fast enough as the housing collapse is spreading to all our major Banks and we now face a major commercial collpase. If Amadinejad's close friend Hugo cuts off our oil so soon after Ike hit our refineries in Texas we would be in a difficult situation with large scale riots acorss the nation and so in our post empire phase we must walk carefully and learn the art of surrender and appeasmant because we just can't afford another war ,we're just all warred out and it's much easier for an amoral nation to just throw Israel to the hungry wolves ready to pounce. We're so busy bailing out ourselves that you,Israel have fallen at the bottom of our growing list of concerns. If we anger our major inverstors China and your enemies who supply so much of our Oil who are keeping this mess afloat the situation here will be untenable. I'm so sorry to have to tell you that for us to survive we will have to throw you overboard. Hope the waters not too cold and that you can float. I hope you understand that we have spent billions on Pakistan and Egypt and our much beloved Palestinain terrorists and this policy has been a failure .The problems to our south continue to grow more precarious as Honduras has joined in with Bolivia and Venezuela,Brazil,Cuba and Equador to oppose our influence in Latin America. The handwriting is on the wall and our enemie's know this and so we are limited in what we can do for you Israel. We don't want to panic the native population here ,but we're in worse shape than our 110% corrupt government media is letting on and this is why we are working so hard to carve you into little pieces which will not be able to survive. We have to sell you out to survive and hope you will understand our treacherous betrayal. What are friends for ? We sure hope you enjoyed out latest window dressing, false hope Palin on the McCain ticket along with his close advisor,.Mr. James Baker, F*%# the Jews. We are so happy to know that when others see thru our treachery ,you continue to belive in and trust us without question. Our dearest, adorable, naive fools who surrender their land because we tell you to. I guess you should have know the folly of putting all your eggs in one basket and placing so much faith in us.Ciao baby, Love ya much,good luck ! Put not your trust in princes, (presidents,vice presidents), nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.Psalm 146:3 http://averyheavystone.blogspot.com/
4. Settlers are hypocrites
Kim   (09.14.08)
What is conveniently left out of this article is that for the past 6 months or longer the illegal settlers of the illegal colony of Yitzhar have been carrying out systematic attacks on the Palestinian villages around them. The attacks included firing homemade missiles at Palestinian villages (Shin Bet reported that these missles had been made by a local school teacher and students), torching and burning hundreds of acres of Palestinian farmland, poisoning Palestinian herds of sheep and goats. In addition, the illegal settlers, who were armed to the teeth, would also enter Palestinian villages and attack and beat Palestinian residents. These attacks were well documented by the Israeli miltiary (and have been reported extensively in the Israeli media) and have been document by not only Israeli human rights groups but also international human rights groups. What is also not mentioned is that the illegal settlers of Yitzhar are some the most hardcore ideological settlers, many of who are followers of the ideology of Meir Kahane. Kahane was the founder of Kach and the inspiration for Kahane Chai (found by his son). Kahane and these two groups expose anti-Palestinian/Arab racism and violence. Members of these groups, have carried out violent attacks on Palestinians, including the notrious mass murder Baruch Goldstein, who murdered 29 Palestinians at prayer. Other members of the groups were caught red handed trying to blow up a Palestinian girls school in East Jerusalem. Kahane Chai and Kach have subsequently been outlawed and deemed terrorist organisation by Israel and the USA. Many of its former members are now part of the Jewish National Front (which is quoted in the article)
5. Olmert applauds the terrorists skill in evading IDF.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (09.14.08)
6. "Settlers"
Syracuse, USA   (09.14.08)
This word has become a slur. It's like the Russians callig Jews "zhid" The "Jewish" state with it's anti Jewish Arab Mk's calling "settlers" two legged animals.
7. Peace Now and Meretz are a disgrace.
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8. Biased article
Natasha ,   Israel   (09.14.08)
This article mentions that a boy was stabbed, which was indeed a tragedy, but fails to mention that none of the Palestinians who were attacked had any responsibility in the rampage. It mentions that Palestinians have set fire to settlement fields, but not that settlers have set fire to Palestinian homes, cars, and olive groves. It fails to mention, in fact, that there are almost daily hate crimes against Palestinians in the villages near that settlement, and the fact that a large amount of that settlement is illegal by our country's law (all of it is illegal according to international laws.) It even fails to mention that four Palestinians were injured, even though two are in critical conditions. Instead, it paints all Palestinians as aggressors and the settlers acting in self-defense, even though ONE Palestinian terrorist injured ONE boy and ONE HUNDRED settlers attacked a village of people who had done nothing at all.
9. Yigal Amitai: We are at war!
Steve   (09.14.08)
The enemy is attacking! You plead sanctity of the Sabbath. Please. We are at war. Do we let the enemy attack and kill on our children on our Holy Day? Do we allow the enemy to slander us on the Sabbath without responding? Do we lie helpless because it is the Sabbath? "We die on the Sabbath like good Jews?" Olmert government, like the Sharon government, is against us. We helped Gush Katif. The leaders of Gush Katif decided there would be absolutely no resistance against Sharon's evil plan. So today, Jews are helpless. We cannot resist?
10. If captured the state would rset him free soon
Larry ,   Long Island NY   (09.14.08)
They probably need to take care of these two legged animals who stab children before he's captured and released within a year or two by another crazy government.
11. If Meretz MK's child would be stabbed in TA by an Arab
Larry ,   USA   (09.14.08)
would they forget about their children while focusing on the rights of the murderers and those who hide / host them?
12. To #2 Yoel
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (09.14.08)
Hi Yoel, 100% agree with you! The time has come for everybody in Israel, including the IDF, the Knesset and the Supreme Court, that you cannot deal with an internal war as the one we are having by being afraid of what the press may say. The proven way to deal with arabs is to make it clear for them that we are stronger and that however messes with us will get hurt. If we do so, we will have peace, if we don't we will have not even a graveyard, when they finish with us they won't even care about that.
13. The 9 year old boy's father
Joe   (09.13.08)
Why is the army preventing the 9 year old boy's father from going to his own home? There is no legal or moral basis for that action. Let the man go home.
14. Amitai!, most of settlers' attacks take place on Shabbats
observer   (09.14.08)
3 months ago, masked settlers attacked palestinian shepherds near Susya using wooden clubs, and it was on Shavuot; the third of the holiest holidays. On Saturdays, the people of Yanoun- close to Itamar; an illegal outpost- will be on high alert: most of the attacks take place when the settlers have their day off. Asira Al Qibliyyah is about half an hour west of Yanoun. It is tragic and nauseating that the Sabbath, prescribed by Judaism as a day of rest from the toils of a pious life, is taken by a few extremists as the perfect opportunity to go and terrorise some Arabs. it was Shabbat and they have to create a sin to recount. As the occupying power, Israel is forbidden under the fourth Geneva Convention to move its civilian population into occupied lands.
15. Our total faith in our legitimate rights on the Land of ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (09.14.08)
Our total faith in our legitimate rights on the Land of Israel will restore the spirit of the I.D.F and its deterrence. The restoration of Israel's deterrence factor is not a matter of increasing the security budget, as the security lobbyists would have us believe. Just two years ago, Israel's army collapsed in the face of an enemy the size of a mere division – in a war that Israel itself initiated. The problem was not budget. The problem was a loss of our sense of justice and common goals that create our cohesiveness and national might. Our lack of deterrence is not due to a lack of tanks or fighter jets. Our lack of deterrence is due to the fact that our enemies think that our society is disintegrating and that the State of Israel is "weaker than spider webs," in the descriptive words of Nasrallah. A just society understands what it is doing in its land and can produce the power of deterrence that Israel used to have - when it believed that it was right. We will fight for our country because it is ours as explainet in 6 parts at : http://xrl.us/bi5c6
16. Lets Get out of the west Bank
Daniel ,   North TA   (09.14.08)
a stabbing of a boy is a terrible event to be condemned but settlers also committed terrible crimes. Time to get out of the west bank and have a co-existance with our palestinian neibours. If we do not make peace with abbas then we will end up (and we already did in gaza) with Hamas. As a secular liberal jew, I want peace not settlements The last thing I want to see is to have my little son grow up to serve the settlers, many do not even serve in the army but expect us to die for them Dan, a proud jew, a proud human
17. IDF
Talula ,   Israel   (09.14.08)
The very same army that they threw oil and chemicals over? the same army that they called 'Nazis' ? The IDF should not do anything to endanger their lives. If the nutcases want to live in settlements, let them deal with their own problems, let them protect themselves - don't expect us to give our sons to protect you...........................Misfits.
18. #17 Talula
Joseph ,   Israel   (09.14.08)
Dear Talula, You have still not said whether or not your blood boiled when Leftists specially drove from Tel Aviv to Na'alin to wound Israeli soldiers with rocks.
19. reasons why left ignores arab violence
Rock Of Galilee ,   Galilee   (09.14.08)
I blogged about this story and the general reason why the left wing refuses to condemn Arab violence. http://rockofgalilee.blogspot.com
20. #19: And the reason for condemnation of Israeli Jews
5th generation ,   Israel   (09.14.08)
is that everyone holds us to the highest standard - whether because we're "knighted" in their minds, or because they think we owe the world for their "favor" for being given a country.
21. To Daniel #16
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (09.14.08)
Hi Daniel, Strange! You think like that and you live in north TA? Even starnger, you recognize the real reason for wanting to give Yesha as a present to arabs, you are afraid! You panick and you don't realize that you are not talking to "civilized" persons like you, but to middle east people, who live differently and believe differently. You should be afraid of having Hamastan meters away from your home!
22. Potential oleh: note, no one is going to help you
Miryam   (09.14.08)
if anything happens in Israel to you or your family or your property, there is no one to turn to: the police will not bother to come out, the army has orders to protect only Arabs. This is not an exaggeration, this is the situation. Don't fool yourself.
23. #18
Talula ,   Israel   (09.14.08)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3595325,00.html It was under the article: Yeshiva students demand religious newspapers on IDF bases TB 17. Bet you feel really stupid now.
24. IDF going to launch investigation into the incident
observer   (09.14.08)
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