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Tutu: Palestinians paying for West's Holocaust guilt
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Published: 18.09.08, 22:35
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31.  # 4 Moshe
Moise ,   US   (09.19.08)
You along with 2-2 are full of Sh T
32. "a" war crime?
jerusalem   (09.19.08)
israel has committed many war crime"s"
33. #14.....You are 100%right
jayjayjay ,   Israel   (09.19.08)
Jordan is their home....im glad to hear that from a Jordanian for once! If only all the other Arabs would admit that, the Palastinian problem would be solved.....but King Abdullah wouldnt be a happy man.
34. paid and still paying for shoah
(09.19.08)
35. Evil thoughts, Archbishop
Hunt S. Cross ,   England   (09.19.08)
He creates a linkage between the Holocaust and a disputed event in Gaza and tells us in the West to rein in our feelings of contrition. Why? Virtually none of us have personal responsibility as perpetrators of the Holocaust. Understanding of the moral issues is there, but personal feelings of contrition aren't deep-seated. That small attitude shift is an easy win for him, but it's enough to create momentum. It has us searching for another holocaust to fill the gap and provide a magnet for our moral compass. Where can we find one? Darfur, perhaps? Silly me, and thank goodness for all those Islamic propagandists from Ahmadinejad down who hand us the answer on a plate. They tell us the Holocaust wasn't real. They'd have us believe it's "Israel's treatment of the Palestinians" that is the real holocaust. Tutu's spoonful of guilt transference makes it easier for us to swallow that fiction. But isn't that fiction Tutu's, too?
36. A people has been created that never existed in history.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.08)
If you repeat the lie often enough, people will begin to believe it, and so they have. A people has been created that never existed in history. Al-Taqiya “the art of the lie” a way for Israel-bashers terrorist-appeasers, the passionate anti-Semites, to assuage their hatred and rationalize that the Jews today are no different than what we've done to them over the past 2000 years. Measure for measure. Given power and freedom, Jews act just like us. So what if their Old Testament says that they are G-d's treasured people. But the people who actually confer that special status on the Jews are in reality the anti-Semites and Jew-haters who can't seem to get Jews out of their collective consciousness. More at: http://xrl.us/bju8t
37. Israel is the only country whose creation was approved ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.08)
Israel is the only country whose creation was approved by the UN; yet it is the only country whose legitimacy is called into question. It is the only country which the world requires to compromise with its Palestinian Arab attackers and accede to their demands, even while they are firing rockets at its schools and houses and blowing up its citizens. The prosperity and growing cultural confidence of Israel is a fitting riposte to the Western intelligentsia, American meddling and the daily propaganda assault that ignores the Islamisation of the Palestinians as described at : http://xrl.us/bj5re
38. # 4
Bill ,   US   (09.19.08)
Tutu is entitled to his opinion but he's not entitled to his own facts.
39. Same Neo-Commie talk, denies Jewish historical rights.
Shneerhere ,   Chicago   (09.19.08)
Tutu & Co espousing same old talk I used to hear from the Muslim Student Assoc. hacks on campus. No mention of Arab terror, only of their 'rights'. I wonder how the Saudis and Jordanians and Egyptians would react to terror in their marketplaces and shelling in their suburbs? They would make Abu Graib look like a Funhouse!
40. Tutu
Robert J Nagy ,   Budapest, Hungary   (09.19.08)
To me it's obvious this man isa not only anti semetic but does not even look at two sides of an issue. In plain English his a MORON
41. tutu
leib ,   madison wisconsin us   (09.19.08)
we have another Jenin in the making the latest fabricated atrocity by a man who has no idea that the Palestinian leadership in the 1930s took money from the Nazis for incitement and propaganda and whose leader the murderer Mufti Husseini supported the pro Nazi coup in Iraq and fled to Berlin where he not only visited sites where the Holocaust was taking place but visited with Hitler and created a Bosnian Muslim SS brigade. The Palestinian leader was guilty of war crimes. The Palestinian leadership of today is directly connected to this man and his methods which like the leaders today include the murder of Palestinian Arab opponents and the silencing of anyone who might want a peaceful solution.
42. To #4
Arul ,   Malaysia   (09.19.08)
If he is really a man of GOD, he would have known what the People of GOD are entitled to and to whom GOD gave the land. He is talking out of his ignorance. He needs to study both Bible and history throughly and understand before he opens his mouth.
43. How does the Shoah relate to this incident?
Zvi   (09.19.08)
NOT AT ALL. By bringing the Shoah into this discussion, and claiming that the Pals are paying for the west's supposed guilt for the Shoah, AS OPPOSED TO PAYING FOR THEIR OWN STUPID LEADERS' INSISTENCE ON SHOOTING ROCKETS AT CIVILIANS AND COMMITTING TERRORIST ATTACKS AIMED AT CIVILIANS, Tutu shows that he is interested in scoring stupid propaganda points rather than performing an unbiased investigation of a tragic accident. And even if there were no other evidence that he is a shill for HAMAS at this point, that makes his entire report deeply untrustworthy and useless.
44. He hates Jews
ex-SA ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.08)
Tutu is known to be a Jew-hater, and is also anti-White in general. Blacks in SA have become extremely racist, from MPekkie downwards. I am ashamed of what SA has become, and it is largely due to the arrogance and racism of figures like Tutu. He, like MPekkie, should focus more on the numerous problems and issues in SA rather than chastising other countries. You have neither the moral nor practical authority to say anything. Take your report and shove it up your fat ass, Desmond!
45. Zionism began "a bit" before the Shoa
Gal   (09.19.08)
but why should yet Another antisemitic allow facts to confuse him?
46. anyone just needs to look at what a MESS SAfrica is to know
tcltk ,   JHB, South Africa   (09.19.08)
anyone just needs to look at what a MESS SAfrica is to know not to even pay any attention to this _slur_
47. When did tutu become a hamas mouthpiece?
Danny   (09.19.08)
West feels guilt? Really how? I know the GERMANS do - and even that is wearing off, quite rightly amongst the younger generation - but France? UK? US? I don't think I have ever heard a single senior member of these governments express "guilt" at having not done anything let alone taken any concrete action.
48. Tutu
Lou ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.08)
To Moshe #4 - So you think Tutu is a man of God. He thinks he is and anyway Tutu should worry about his own country, South Africa, and also Zimbabwe and Darfu. I haven't heard him speak out against these countries. And anyway the ordinary blacks in SA is no better than before.
49. Another drama of TUTU :-)
ben ,   singapore   (09.19.08)
Here been busy, I return to Ynet, what see ? Tutu ! Where all my idiot friends...idiots where are you all hiding ? Atilla ? Charles ? idiots where are you all. ben singapore :-)~
50. Tutu-SA Blacks killed scores of foreigners in SA in May 08
Alan ,   SA   (09.19.08)
There are more or less 19 000 murders a year in SA. THIS IS EVERY YEAR. What does Tutu do? Nothing . He goes to Israel! (sorry he calls Israel "Holy Land" like the Iranians and Co ,call it "Zionist Entity")
51. Jews are paying with their lives for...
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (09.19.08)
... the Islamo-Leftist and fringe Christian anti-Semitism, not to mention corruption at the UN and in many of the worlds capitals. Palestinians on the other had pay for their own stupidity and genocidal dreams of destroying Israel and re-raping its ancestral lands. Hatred and wars against Israel are fueled by Islam, ffringe Christianity, racism, greediness and corruption - what a pityful world we live in. I really start to believe that we need a Armaggedon to cleanse this world of barbars whi idolize a false and cruel Prophet of a pagan Moon God and of the scores of clueless imbeciles who assist them in perpetrating their genocidal halucinations.
52. Tutu- again?
wisewoman ,   Switzerland   (09.19.08)
and just why is Tutu appointed to investigate this? Isn't there enough crime and violence in SA, Zimbabwe? THAT is where you could do some good Msgr. I expected a 'learned and religious' person to be better informed and more careful when talking to the press. Maybe this is just another EGO trip, a way to be in the sporlight? how pathetic!
53. "I hope that ordinary citizens in the West will wake up..."
Fed Up ,   Barcelona   (09.19.08)
"I just hope that ordinary citizens in the West will wake up and say, 'we refuse to be part of this'." I couldn't have said it better, Mr. Tutu. It's just that the "this" that the West should refuse to be a part of isn't Israel's right to exist, but the moral and political sham that is the UN.
54. Price to be paid
steve ,   london, england   (09.19.08)
Palestinians are not paying any penance for the Holocaust. Jews don't blame Palestinians for the Holocaust and it is an insult to Palestinians to say what Bishop Tutu has said. GOD save us from meddling Christian idealogues who think they are the conscience of the Jewish people. Palestinians are paying for their continueal attacks on Jewish people and for their campaign to obliterate us. They will never be able to pay what they owe to the world for delaying peace in this region of the world since 1947. How much time have they taken up in the UN General Assembly and Security Council??? Over 60 years of their nonsense. It's simple to have peace. You simply have to abandon armed struggle and violence. But Palestinians have practiced their hate of Israel in a religious and racial context. The argument about land is that which they fool the UN. In reality they want to obliterate Jewish society and the State of Israel. Anybody who doesn't understand this and has responsibility over this region should wake up to reality. There will be no peace with Palestinians until they accept the legitimacy of our religion and that fore them is a defeat of their belief that Jews must convert to Islam to have any right of existence in this world. WELL IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Christians have to understand this too. We are not going to abandon Judaism and we are not going to abandon our land. It is our foothold on Earth and that makes it GOD's foothold on Earth too. Bishop Tutu is a clever man but his rhetoric is very offensive and stupid.
55. #52. It is an ego trip.
Kev ,   London   (09.19.08)
...Europeans making themselves feel good about how they treat Israel via the UN.
56. Tutu, you are misguided and an idol-worshipper.
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah   (09.19.08)
57. Desmond Tutu
NYC Girl   (09.19.08)
What hasn't been addressed here is the fact that Tutu is an adherent of Replacement Theology, which says it isn't the Jews, but the Christians, who are entitled to the land of Israel. And just as in the case of Jimmy Carter, it's this view that fuels his anti-Semitism (although Carter also blames the decline of his career on the fact the Jews supported Ted Kennedy and not him). But, make no mistake, Tutu's belief system definitely is anti-Semitic. And if he doesn't think so, he should read Dr. Martin Luther King's comments on the subject. Having said that, the unfortunate thing is that because he wears a clerical collar, there are people who'll be misled into thinking that Tutu is a man of god...and not the racist little weasel he really is.
58. # 57 NY Girl Amen!
Petra ,   usa   (09.19.08)
He and Farrakhan can call themselves whatever religion they want but, they are anti semitic trash! I suspect he like Carter, has a financial interest.'( paid by the Saudis) Anyone who knows the bible knows they are phonies unworthy to address Jews and the holy land. Anti Israelis are usually paid by the saudis. They get what they pay for, more anti semitic trash w/ a public platform.
59. reply to Gee #8
moshe ,   beirut, lebanon   (09.19.08)
you are nothing but a racist pig.
60. Tutu
(09.19.08)
His own people, African blacks, are killing each other in huge numbers. Let him fix things in his own land before he gives advice to others.
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