News
Australian Holocaust-denier arrested at Heathrow
Ynet
Published: 01.10.08, 18:41
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
33 Talkbacks for this article
1. Freedom of Speech !!!
Radi ,   North Carolina   (10.01.08)
WTF, arrested because he said he does not believe something happened!!! i thought only the US has turned to a totalitarian regime.... very disappointed sad day for democracy and freedom :(
2. To #1
AbZ ,   Wisconsin   (10.01.08)
Lie about something has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech.
3. Radi and freedom of speech
wisewoman   (10.01.08)
you are wrong, he is publishing books, holding lectures, encouraging racism and anti-semitism- This has nothing whatsoever to do with democracy or freedom- it is simply hatemongering. How can any sane person deny the Holocaust? Read any books lately? Visited any of the camp memorials? Seen any of the photographs? Oh, yes, you believe the earth is flat?
4. Why do these people get arrested?
A ,   Jerusalem   (10.01.08)
Can't they just be free to be crazy and completely retarded? When they're arrested, it only strengthens their "case".
5. Agree with #4. Incarceration gives them a forum for evil
Jake   (10.01.08)
They revel in the publicity they get, and get a boost, not punishment, from doing a little one month stint in jail. Didn't Hitler write 'Mein Kampf' from his prison cell?
6. #1 F.O.!!! (Ynet, FO means ALSO Foreign Office)
Enzo ,   London,UK   (10.01.08)
Toben, I hope you won't see the sun again!
7. crazy and retarded?
wisewoman   (10.01.08)
Can't they just be free to be crazy and completely retarded? Like the president of Iran? The supreme leader? Nasrallah? I rest my case!
8. Radi , there is democracy and freedom
Charles ,   Petach Tikva , Israe   (10.01.08)
Proof : your support to this guy is published . Denying the existence of gaz chambers is not only denying facts that have thousands of witnesses , but stupid too .
9. who cares
ramallah ,   ramallah   (10.01.08)
who cares if it happens or not , let him go.
10. to N°1
Septimus ,   Rome   (10.01.08)
Radi, you are probably from those who consider that it is a attempt against the freedom of speach to forbid the rants of revisionists, but who feel that one should forbid cartoonists to make drawings of Muhammad on the ground that it could bother you and your friends. Strange dichotomy isn't ? Don't worry, we know you. There are, for the time being, one single place in the world wher eyou can profess these idead: teheran; Go quickly. Tommorow there will be maybe only ashes. But don't worry, I wil;l be ther e to tell that this has never happen !
11. Radis & freedom of truth:
joe ,   france   (10.01.08)
OUCH!
12. What sort of TRUTH crushes the freedom to seek the TRUTH
Michael Santomauro ,   New York   (10.01.08)
"I wish to express my outrage that the Holocaust, unlike any other historical event, is not subject to critical revisionist investigation. Furthermore I deplore the fact that many so-called democratic states have laws that criminalize public doubting of the Holocaust. It is my position that the veracity of Holocaust assertions should be determined in the marketplace of scholarly discourse and not in our legislatures bodies and courthouses."--MICHAEL SANTOMAURO
13. dear Radi
Charles   (10.01.08)
your friends tried to murder Salman Rushdie, Robert Redecker and others who criticise your religion. And I don´t speak about the Mohamed caricatures from the danish newspaper. so, think first then open your mouth
14. #12, People like David Irving are NOT scholars
Jake   (10.02.08)
I do not believe that such scum ought to be in jail for voicing their evil opinions. However, I have no doubt that Irving's primary motivation in denying the Holocaust is to make it that much easier to repeat in future. So be careful what you wish for, as this virus of denial and hatred can easily come to the United States, and not only the Jews might end up the victims. The largest mass lynching in American history was of 11 Italian-Americans in New Orleans accused of involvement in organized crime after the police chief was killed. The good-old-boys ringleaders chanted "Hang the dagos!" Afterwards, many Italian immigrants with no connection to crime were rounded up and incarcerated by the police. Decades after, an anti-Italian phrase, "Who kill-a the chief?" remained popular in the New Orleans area. God forbid this event should ever be denied, or justified, in future. My Italian-American friends had no idea it happened, till I told them.
15. #12 Moron : The HOLOCAUST occurred 1000%
andy ,   orlando   (10.02.08)
and has already been verified countless times by survivors and documentation.Get a life you sad character.
16. As long as we're making things up...
(10.02.08)
I vote that history be revised to claim that Mohammed the "prophet" never existed. Gee, do you think the Muslims might get upset if I published all kinds of tripe and funded a symposium entitled, "On the Dubious Existence of Prophet Mohammed: Fact or Fiction?" Hateful idiots like this Toben character are unacceptable to civilized society.
17. replt to WISEWOMAN #7
moshe ,   telaviv   (10.01.08)
Wise woman stop condescending. You are a european and europeans were responsible for the holocaust. Can't they just be free to be crazy and completely retarded? Like the president of Iran? The supreme leader? Nasrallah? Europeans like wisewoman? I rest my case!
18. Michael Santomauro , New York
Charles   (10.01.08)
it is very easy to ridicule and disrespect the memory of the jews who were murdered by the Nazis and their friends. Why do sick people like you pick on those who are dead and cannot defend themselves ?
19. The Truth Needs No Prisons
World Citizen ,   the world   (10.02.08)
Why are zionists so afraid of these people that they have to have them arrested and thrown in gaol? If this tradegy happened the historical records will bear it out. The more these people are suppressed the more the average thinking person believes that there is some truth to their investigations. My personal belief is that the holocaust happened but the number of deaths is greatly overstated. I don't think that Jewish suffering was greater or lesser than other nationalities or ethnic groups during WW2. I believe that the holocaust mythos is used by the government of Israel to justify their seizure of Palestinian property and to extort vast somes of money from Germany and other nations.
20. Stand up
Spanky ,   Tennessee   (10.02.08)
When the time comes I will stand up with all my Jewish friends and fight all the mulims, all the deniers, and haters.
21. #1 & # 12: Only fools know not when to keep silent!
SA ,   USA   (10.02.08)
Yours is the argument of Sophists. A wise philosopher abhors a Sophist. The Holocaust is the only historical event which some misguided individuals (often with nefarious political agendas) see fit to assert actually did not occur. Denying that a historical event occurred does not belong in "the marketplace of scholarly discourse," nor does spreading lies in print belong in the realm of protected free speech. While an historian's OPINION that questions WHY something may have happened (eg., what started World War I?) may be up for discussion, no historian in his or her right mind ever questions the truth of WHETHER OR NOT something happened. To Mr. Santomauro: Do you want to do a bit of scholarly investigation on the Holocaust? Then go out and ask the hundreds of objective eyewitnesses from the allied forces (they're still alive;) dig up the mass graves and do some DNA testing on the victims to see what killed them; go ask the survivors where their relatives are. Let me ask you something, Mr. Santomauro: why are there so few Jews in Europe? Where did they go? You do the math, sir. Those who play devil's advocate usually end up doing the devil's bidding, whether or not they're willing to admit it . And you, Radi: Libel does not and never will constitute protected free speech and is and always will be an offense punishable by law. If you can't bend your little brain around that concept, then it's no use suggesting you study Constitutional Law. There's plenty of proof that the Holocaust DID happen. Show me the proof that it did NOT. Hint: hearsay, superstition and emotionally-derived "theories" based on pure hatred DO NOT COUNT as fact or evidence.
22. My response to the CRITICS on TalkBack
Michael Santomauro ,   New York   (10.02.08)
Question: What sort of Truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? YOUR answer... Please! Peace.
23. 17 Moshe
Silvana ,   Glasgow   (10.02.08)
Just for the record, I am Scots and a European. That 4 members of my father's family died and are listed in the Yad Vashem database does not under any circumstance make me part of your idiot train of thought. The man was arrested and correctly so as he is sowing the seeds of a second Holocause along with his right wing buddies ie. Iran You are right when you say "I rest my case" its a case of bullshit.....your bullshit
24. No freedom to think in Europe
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (10.02.08)
Even if the person doesn't have all the facts, he should not be arrested for expressing his opinion. If people disagree with his position, they should come forward with clear evidence to prove that he is wrong. But to arrest someone for their opinion. This is not democracy, and it's a poor reflexion on the people who are attacking him.
25. What sort of Truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek th
Charles   (10.02.08)
the truth is the murder of the jews. But you deny this so you murder these people twice. You are not better than a Himmler or Eichmann. And a shame for an Italian, jewish and catholics who suffered horribly from the German Nazi occupation during WW2.
26. What a circus... There's no business like shoa business.
Erastus CoupeDeVille ,   Ong's Hat, NJ   (10.02.08)
27. Rich , world citizen , and others
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.02.08)
They have'nt to search for the truth , there are , sadly to say , more than enough evidences who prove that the Holocaust made around 6 million Jewish victims . Look only at the , i think , 3 million testimonies at Yad vashem . Or at the nazi documents , containing plans and building documents for the gaz chambers . Look at the "einzatscommandos" , units specially set up tio murder Jews . Denying the Holocaust is distorting the truth , the known truth . I would like that the holocaust deniers were righ , i would have known the many family members who were muredered in this period .
28. # 22
Bill ,   US   (10.02.08)
I agree with you. It's a historical event. It deserves to be researched and critiqued the same as any other event. Of course there should be some exceptions. For instance we should never question the validity of "Palestinian" history. Unfortunately, that issue will never be given its day in court.
29. Randomness of Archaelogy
C McCoy ,   Canada   (10.02.08)
Given levels of pollution and such, human life will probably become extinct within a century. So, what happens when archaelogists arrive from another planet? What if the only intact book they find on the topic is by a Holocaust denier? Fire, insects, mould etc destroyed the others. Wouldn't that be a shame, giving those space aliens a wrong history?
30. #19 it was not the "Zionists" who arrested him idiot
SA ,   USA   (10.02.08)
it was the Germans. That's because Holocaust denial is a crime under German law. Read the article next time. Your assertion that the Israeli government created a holocaust myth to extort land and money is truly twisted and sick and your use of the term "Zionist" belies your bad intentions. There wouldn't BE an Israel if it were not for the Holocaust. Why would people leave the relative comfort of Europe to settle in a barren land surrounded by unfriendly Arab nations? Why would they go to a third world outpost like Palestine whose leader in Jerusalem supported Hitler? It doesn't make sense, does it? The fact is, If the Jews hadn't suffered so much persecution in Europe during the Holocaust, they would have just stayed in Diaspora in peace and had no reason to become refugees in the first place. "My personal belief..." Hey buddy, you don't get to GUESS what happened based upon what you FEEL might have happened. If you really want to know what happened, then read accurate historical accounts by respected scholars and talk to some of the eyewitnesses to German war crimes (i.e. Jewish survivors and objective eyewitnesses like WW2 veterans.) Your willingness to believe lies so readily just shows that you don't know the difference between History and Politics. Your comments prove that anybody can make stuff up and pass it off as the truth just by putting the mere suggestion of doubt in an unwary mind with a lazy intellect.
Next talkbacks
Back to article