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Whose plan is more Jewish, Obama’s or McCain’s?
Rabbi Levi Brackman
Published: 17.10.08, 14:37
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1. Democrats have more compassion for the poor, but
JMK ,   NYC   (10.17.08)
hate Israel and Judaism just the same, by the way Jesus NEVER ever existed, in any shape, way or form.
2. davmark@mindspring.com
David Blum ,   USA   (10.17.08)
From what I understand of the "joe the Plummer" it that under the story he concocted he would be paying $600.00 per year additional. The truth be said here is a reference from a Washington Newspaper “An official at Local 50 of the plumber’s union, based in Toledo, said Mr. Wurzelbacher does not hold a license. He also has never served an apprenticeship and does not belong to the union. (The national plumber’s union, the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics, endorsed Mr. Obama, it should be noted.) ‘He’s basically playing games with the world,’ Thomas Joseph, the local’s business manager, said in a telephone interview Thursday morning…. And his question to Mr. Obama about paying taxes? According to some tax analysts, if Mr. Wurzelbacher’s gross receipts from his business is $250,000 — and not his taxable income — then he would not have to pay higher taxes under Mr. Obama’s plan, and probably would be eligible for a tax cut.”
3. Everybody loves Israel
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (10.17.08)
Truth is, when push comes to shove, Israel must protect herself. That takes weapons and troops ready and willing to die for her. Weaponry she is capable of producing, trained troops are there, and let us not forget the millions who will pray for her survival.
4. Rubbish. Obama's socialism is hardly "Jewish".
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (10.17.08)
Although many socialists, going back to Marx, have been Jews (by birth anyway), Judaism has never been, in its essence, socialist. Judaism does not idealize poverty; rather, it acknowledges it as a condition of life to be addressed. It acknowledges, too, the sanctity of private property, contracts, and the rule of law. There is, of course, always the moral dimension, the obligation to deal righteously, etc. The Rabbis teach us that even the "yetzer hara" has its purpose, for without it people would not build families or businesses. But they would never countenance a culture of dependency, nor a confiscatory "soak the rich" policy that discourages investment. Perhaps Obama/Biden push for government mandated service and charity stems from their own rather selective "generosity". Biden gives little to charity himself, and Obama's half-brother lives in a shack in Kenya. They don't give, so the rest of us must? Hardly a Jewish approach.
5. If the "plan" is Marxism, then Rabbi B. is correct
Gershon   (10.17.08)
Obama has a 20-year relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Trinity United Church, a Black Liberation/Marxist church masquerading as Christian. Wright said, "Capitalism as made manifest in the 'New World' depended upon slave labor (by African slaves), and it is only maintained by keeping the 'Two-Thirds World' under oppression." Wright's anti-capitalist view is represented in TUCC's "10-point Vision...10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY." "Economic parity" is a code word for government-coerced wealth redistribution, perpetual minimum wage increases, government subsidized health care for all, etc. This massive wealth redistribution is patterned after the economic views of Karl Marx. Like Marxism, Wright's Black Liberation Theology calls for social activism, class struggle, and revolution aimed at overturning the existing capitalist order and replacing it with a socialist utopia where the poor will unseat their "oppressors" and become liberated. Redistribution of wealth is also a pillar of Hugo Chavez's Marxist "Bolivarian Revolution." Obama's other friend of 20 years, Bill Ayers, in a speech to Chavez in Caracas, said, "Amamos la revolucion Bolivariana!" (we love the Bolivarian Revolution) and " Capitalism promotes racism and militarism – turning people into consumers, not citizens." Add Obama's relationship to his cousin/tribesman Prime Minister of Kenya, Raila Odinga, who is a Communist allied with Islamic extremists, AND WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM! Is THIS what you support, Rabbi?
6. Obama wants to do what President Franklin Roosevelt said was
Rivkah   (10.17.08)
the WORST thing you can do in a depression: raise taxes. Roosevelt was President during the Great Depression, so he should know.
7. NObama
Bibi ,   US of A   (10.17.08)
Vote for Obama, and HE will increase taxes to "spread YOUR wealth around". Vote for McCain, and YOU can spread your wealth around. Giving to charity is an important Jewish value. But to give out of your own pocket, to whatever charity you prefer, is better than having Obama and the liberal Democrats do the job for you, with your money. I wonder; who is more giving? Who gives more to charity? The religious conservatives, or the liberals?
8. Trickle down?
megan ,   Milwaukee, WI U.S.A   (10.17.08)
McCain and the Republicans entire basis for this trickle down tax plan is in entrusting the rich to spend their tax breaks on innovation and job creation. I see them buying more yachts and houses. Common sense tells me that giving more to the poor, people who actually need to buy things because they don't already have, say - 300 pairs of shoes, would seem like a more logical approach to improving the economy overall. Plus, McCain is trigger-happy and thoughtlessly impulsive. Not good things for Israel.
9. Obama
Amy ,   Monroe, USA   (10.17.08)
Forget about taxes, does it not bother anyone that Obama supports infanticide???
10. Obama promissed reparation to Blacks
Rich ,   New York   (10.17.08)
As to Jews, like the rest of Americans they will pay for it. Obama said reparations, Farakkhan - his close friend said the same. His closed friend Write said reparations. Want reparations - vote Obama.
11. Nobama
avi ,   nyc   (10.17.08)
Being a former Muslim turned anti-semitic racist xtian is certainly non_jewish. Trashing Joe the Plumber is also not very Jewish -unless were following the practice of Jewish bolsheviks. By the way as in most states, as long as you work under a liscensed plumber, you can work as a plumber. Voting Jewish would be voting opposite the Muslim community- or opposite the assimmilated JINO community.
12. Hoover was president during the Depression
Bill ,   US   (10.17.08)
Roosevelt got America out of it.
13. Cant bring myself to vote for Obama
Roni Silverman   (10.17.08)
I just can’t bring myself to vote for Obama, as I can’t see him instituting universal health care with raising taxes. But the one main thing is he would enforce his so called plan for peace as he stated to divide Jerusalem, to which I will never stand for.
14. trickle down!
De!bbie Adkison ,   Beggs,Okla   (10.18.08)
I am in the contruction business... when people buy houses that means my company along with a bunch of others are working, Same thing when we buy shoes some workers in a shoe factory is working. If the government can ask more of the so called upper class what makes you think they will stop there. I am not in that upper tax bracket yet but why should I be punished when I get there. There have been a few good years when we moved up to another bracket OUCH I felt like all my hardwork didn't make a differance.
15. Judaism=Communism?
Shlomo ,   USA   (10.18.08)
Apparently to this insane rabbi, Judaism is communist. Hitler made that claim during the Holocaust. Rabbi, you are wrong.
16. Rabbi does not know the facts. He lies.
Isaac Barr ,   Detroit USA   (10.18.08)
The article should not have been published since it is simply not true. The details of Obama's tax are quite clear: If you make up to 250 K in Michigan the tax will be 37.76%. For the next 250 K the total tax (Federal, Social security, Medicare,State) will be 58,8 % (39.4% income tax, 12.5% Social Security tax, 2,5% Medicare tax, 4,4% State tax) or for 500 K total tax is about 241 K or from 500 K 259 K net will be left. No wonder that citizen of little or no income favor redistribution of wealth. Moreover,they are promised $1000 present by Obama, they are the main benefactors of Obama tax. There are about 40 million citizen who do not pay any federal income tax. These are many potential votes who are bribed by Obama. The options that the 500 K people have are not to work, not develop, not hire, retire. Some will hide money, in shore or off shore. Philanthropists will cease to contribute willfully since they are forced to be taxed. Attorneys will be busy in creating shelters. When President Reagan instituted tax cuts the Federal income from taxes dramatically increased. The idea that Senator Obama harbors is redistribution of wealth care for all citizens, immigrants included, from birth, through life, education, work, retirement and eventual death. The money (three TRILLIONS) for Obama plans, will come from taxation and in particular abolition of inheritance. This is back door communism. Lastly, the Rabbi misquotes the Bible. The Bible speakes about volutary giving since this reflects Jewish spirit.
17. Rabbi Levi Brackman embarasses himself
Isel Breshinski ,   USA   (10.18.08)
Rabbi Levi Brackman is a British citizen who has the audacity to write about issues that he does not understand. McCain tax plan fits better to the economic reality in the USA. There are no three trillions dollars availble for Obama programs. 20% of Americans pay 80% of taxes today. McCain tax plan will provide 300 billion dollars over 10 years to create a new industrial infra structure, retooling, education and alike. He will create an energy infra structure (nuclear, wind,water etc.) that will create oil independence and save annually 250 billion dollars of oil imports. He will give tax breaks to small businesses, investtments in American industry, break on dividents for retirees etc. Certainly he will not give any breaks to wealthy Americans, but he will not take it away from those who provide 90% of jobs in the USA. His health care will give $5000 directly to insurance companies. Otherwise, as Obama suggests, the money will not be used for health insurance but for buying beer. He will not touch inheritance since the Scandinavian experience showed that this will deplete the country of money and investments. Rabbi Levi Brackman is simply stupid.
18. 12
avi ,   nyc   (10.18.08)
ww2 ended the depression. Roosevelts policies prolonged both, and he ignored the Shoah
19. Obama's increased taxes means less $ for tzedakah
Sue ,   Los Angeles   (10.18.08)
The major donors who give big buck$ to Jewish charities will give less after they get hit with Obama's tax increase. Little donors like me will also end up giving less. Jewish people in need will suffer. Tzedakah is supposed to be voluntary - from the heart. Not forced by the government. I want my tzedakah money to go to organizations that I choose, not the ones that Obama chooses (like ACORN?).
20. #9
Marilyn ,   USA   (10.18.08)
Abortion is a problem, and it kind of goes against the ideas of the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness as expressed in the constitution. However on the other side have someone who is pro-war. It's a no win situation and end up having to try to choose between which candidate is more likely to do the least amount of damage. In this the anti-abortion groups are much stronger than the anti-war groups and have more a chance of containing such. I'm still wishing that Ron Paul was given more attention. He was much more the pro-life candidate, and a doctor, best selling author, senator and even the military really liked him, however he was kind of blocked.
21. #20, Marilyn, no one hates war more than McCain
Sue ,   Los Angeles   (10.18.08)
More than anyone, McCain understands how terrible war. As a POW for 6 years the Vietnamese Communists broke every bone in his body. But, McCain understands the importance of being militarily superior in order to deter other nations from starting wars with US. If having peace is your No. 1 reason for voting, don't vote for Obama. Al Qaeda, Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez and Castro are all hoping Obama will be elected and planning to attack us. America's enemies don't want McCain elected because they won't dare mess with him. McCain will keep us safe and bring peace - through a strong military and by achieving independence from foreign energy. McCain will be the one to finally get our enemies to "drink their oil" and take away the petro dollars that buy their weapons.
22. Breathtaking lies about Obama and McCain
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens, NY, USA   (10.19.08)
1) This economic catastrophe is the final result of the $12 Trillion borrowing spree begun during the Reagan Administration. 2) Obama will reduce taxes for 955 of americans. 3) McCain, l;ike Bush advocates, first and foremost, enormous tax cuts for the rich. 4) Obama is a classic middle-of-the-road Democrat. 5) If you want Socilism, look at the Republicans who have nationalized the American banking, insurance and automotive industries. 6) Anyone who thinks Sarah Palin can be President of the U.S. is out of their minds.
23. Never mind the tax plan, how about national security.
Guy   (10.19.08)
Does anybody in his right mind think that hussein obama will be better for the US of America and Israel' security. hussein obama and his advisors: carter, brazinski, mCfee, Farakan, his reverend, the terrorist and his wife etc.. just a bunch of anti-America, anti-Semites and defintly anti-Israel.
24. #1 Kudoos for your excellent display of your total ignorance
of having 1 ounce of ,   intellegence!!!!!   (10.19.08)
25. Sorry, Rabbi but you are wrong...
Mike Jefferson ,   Washington, D.C.   (10.19.08)
Since you want to address this issue from a religious imperative, let's do so. Torah obligates us to tithe. This was done to support the priestly caste who performed essential community duties which did not generate revenue and to assist those unable to work. At the same time, the Torah clearly delineated the rights of land/property owners, inheritance, etc.. While there were special provisions in the Jubilee year to reapportion wealth so that no one family could corner the market so to speak, it was more of a regulation of wealth than wholesale welfare. What Barack Obama proproses is a welfare plan that destroys personal initiative and responsibility. Currently, nearly 40% of Americans pay nothing in income tax. Under Barack's plan these people will receive rebates and the numbers of Americans who pay little or nothing will grow. Where is their tithing? Biblical precepts mandated that everyone tithe regardless of wealth at a fixed proportion. We have no such provisions and the current system is graduated with the majority of the burden falling on the hard working Americans. The truly wealthy pay little if anything. There is a fundamental distinction between leaving a corner of the field unpicked for the widow and poor and having one's wallet picked by a government to redistribute the money to people who do not work so that they can buy cell phones and big-screen tv's. Rabbi, you are wrong!
26. Steve #22, apparently facts are like Kryptonite to you
Gershon   (10.19.08)
1) This economic catastrophe is the final result of the Democrats' socialist idea that everyone needs to own a house and enlisting community organizers like Barack Obama to work with ACORN to bully the banks into making risky loans. To understand, see this very simple diagram. http://www.justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html 2) Obama cannot reduce taxes for the 45 percent of Americans who pay no taxes at all. The rest of us will get a tax increase to give a welfare check to those people. 3) Small businesses which account for 85 percent of job creators in America, file corporate taxes as individuals, therefore, people like Joe the Plumber are considered "the rich." This will lead to more unemployment and will actually the amount of taxes collected. 4) Obama is so far to the left, he fell off the edge. He is a Marxist wolf in Democrat sheep clothing. 5) McCain should not be compared with George "Big Government" Bush. McCain believes in small government that provides for national security and other interstate matters. He believes that all the rest should be handled by the states. 6) Sarah Palin is the most popular Governor ever with an 85 percent approval rating. What she has accomplished as Mayor and Governor far exceeds anything Obama has ever done. She is an accomplished executive. He is a smooth talker with nothing to show as results.
27. Oh man, #22, your statements almost made me drop...........
Cameron ,   USA   (10.19.08)
my coffee. Obama is anything but "a middle-of-the-road Dem". Obama represents just how ideologically "off-the cliff" the Dem party has become in recent years. It is just too late for a redoubled replay of the 60s and 70s in the world of today. Cannot believe that it is in America's interest or benefit to become a mimic of the weakling, self-indulgent, ineffectual mediocrity that Europe has become in recent decades. Brace yourself, Israel: If this gentle, weak, Socialist orator takes office, your enemies will give a mighty jump of joy, & proceed to come at you with every arrow in their quiver. The next no. of years will be heavy for us, they will be grindingly grim for thee. Send the children out the country, and sharpen your swords, because an Obama victory will literally be tossing Israel into the fire. Prepare.
28. Who cares
mike honcho ,   ny,usa   (10.19.08)
You should ask which candidate is best for americans unless you want to become the 51st state of US. I don't understand you get upset when people say jewish americans are more loyal to israel and cry anti-semitism but I see every jewish american newspaper asking what your asking and not which candidate is best american. Hell if you ask a jewish american who he would defend if there was israeli or muslim american ? They would defend the israeli and that just shows your more loyal to israel then US
29. Obama
(10.19.08)
All of the Muslims are for Obama. Shouldn't that tell us something?
30. NO SUCH A THING AS A "JEWISH" PLATFORM
Michel SLONIMSKI ,   Paris, France   (10.19.08)
Should I remind Rabbi Brackman that Jewish Law is for Jews only and that, accordingly, it is a fraud to ask what candidate's program is "more Jewish"? The only legitimate Jewish question on the US election is : who is safer for Jews and Israel ? The obvious answer : NOT OBAMA.
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