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Yishai, how dare you?
Yoram Kaniuk
Published: 21.10.08, 14:22
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1. jerusalem
colin   (10.21.08)
The writer is nearly correct in his assumptions on Jerusalem He has forgotten that Eli Yishia is acting on instructions from the rabbis. They are playing poker.Jerusalem is the joker card.The haridi will sell Jerusalem when the price is right.This price is when they are unable to extort more from the harlet Livni who sells herself cheaply to get to be PM. Yishia will take anything for the rabbis as long as its free and do not have to support Israel. Yishia wants money for the swiss bank accounts.Does the writer not know that resession has set in the world and the datim also suffer loss of income.No donations are coming in so squees the Government a little more before the auction of Jerusalem.
2. jerusalem
gavriel ,   mevaseret   (10.21.08)
you are dead right about yishai, but dead wrong about netanyahu, if i understand his position rightly. dividing jerusalem is as foolish and dangerous as to give arabs juudea & samaria. but we seem to be governed by aliens, who know & care nothing.
3. no, ben gorion 'was not wise'.
ygalg   (10.21.08)
if he was, he would know; confronting people who adhere to death cult going by the name "Islam", it's a must excommunication of islamists from israel. furthermore, he should have expelled them as response to Islamic nations for expelling the Jews. confiscating their possessions...etc. he should meet them the condition: "leave islam and you may stay or get out of our country!"
4. Shas motto," just give us the money."
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (10.21.08)
5. FINALLY, someone just says it like it is
Aharon   (10.21.08)
Well done, I wish more people were brave enough to simply confront the truth like you, rather than live in a fantasy land.
6. What a double-standard.
Matt C ,   Canada   (10.21.08)
Jews were punished after the riots in Acre many were arrested. I do not understand why you claim otherwise. "lazy bums and draft dodgers and ignoramuses who will grow up in huge families?" This is simple hate, Yoram Kaniuk. What if you said the same thing about, for example, Arabs? The language you are using is that of irrational hate. Shas supporters may have problems but there is no call for THIS. Your article lies to claim only Arabs were punished in Acre after the riots and insults the Orthodox community in language that would get you in trouble for anti-Semitism in many countries. With false friends like you, Israel does not need enemies.
7. Every word
David ,   Jerusalem   (10.21.08)
a pearl of wisdom.
8. Well said Kaniuk
Sagi ,   Israel   (10.21.08)
Yishai with his hordes and cohorts will bring down this country.
9. # 1 Colin / harlet
Sagi ,   Israel   (10.21.08)
should be spelt HARLOT. I strongly object to you calling a presumptive Prime Minister of our country by this name. I also strongly object to ynet for not editing this. I am no supporter of Livni but I am certainly a supporter of propriety.
10. Yishai
Norm Cone ,   Longwood,FL   (10.21.08)
I don't like the leftist Yoram Kaniuk and his politics, but in the case of Yishai,(including all the Shas-Party with Rav Nissim) he is 100% right. How many Shas-members have visited East Jerusalem Arab neighborhoods in the last years ? Who needs the Arab villages with Hundred of thousands of Arabs you have to pay Social Security ? Why have the Israeli "Joe the Plumber" to keep up thousands of ultra-orthodox Klumniks with many children ? Why ?
11. Jerusalem
Shimon ,   Cincinnati, USA   (10.21.08)
Is now one city and should remain so forever: Enough blood has been shed for it through the ages. Now everyone has free access. That is how it should be. I cannot bring myself to believe someone would "auction" it for "peace". Anyone who wishes to change it's status should think twice about the ensuing backlash. You thought the latest riots were bad? What would happen in such a scenario would be unthinkable and would only make Ahmadinejad a prophet of our doom.
12. Excellent article, I hope Yishai is reading too
TC ,   Haifa   (10.21.08)
13. the question is
cordier   (10.21.08)
Are you sure than the division of Jérusalem will bring us peace ???? You were sure than to give gazza will bring us peace... You were sure than to give away the security zone in lebanon will bring us peace.... Is it rightist or Leftits and yoram Kaniuk who live in a dream ???? if to give away territories occupied after 1967 will (for sure say leftists) bring us peace why before 1967 when the territories were NOT occupied there was war ???? Who live in desillusion ????? Who is Kaniuk to give order and comitments to all ??? I don t want to put my life in danger to calm down the hystery post humanist of the leftists (our cause is unjust, the occupation rotten the spirit of the people).... Against the nazis our cause was just and then... six millions of dead... i prefer to be alive and fighting for the occupation of the territories than to liberate territories and be killed by an invasion of jihad loving muslims.Without the mountains of Yehuda and Shomron and the Golan to give time for our army to mobilize. we are in real danger. Without the water of these regions we are in danger too... I don t want to exchange these strategic teritories against a promise and a paper signed by arabs dictators... We can all see what promises of dictators are worthing... I want peace, i am not religious but im convinced than the left in israel has lost his mind....
14. Just another goebbels rant from Kaniuk
Ilan ,   Ariel   (10.21.08)
This man (using the word loosely) is just a sack of hate and foul mouthed utterances. Really a shame to see such trash put up as an opinion.
15. Israel isn't North Koreak Sagi
(10.21.08)
You don't have to show any respect to the Great Leader. Leftists really are clueless about how democracies work.
16. Shocking information
Rich ,   New York   (10.21.08)
Clinton entered Wh with 30K sallary. Now he has 120 million. Barak was poor soldier. After a year as PM he became multimillioner. Peres make so much money on his trips to US. And Olmert will leave his office after 3 years as PM with a few millions and several houses. Shocking.
17. Best article I've read in a while. Hope Yishai is reading.
DkS ,   J'lem, IL   (10.21.08)
18. To #12: Yishai can read English?
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (10.21.08)
The only thing Yishai can read are the lips of his boss - Rav Ovadia! He can count money though and he and his party are experts in political extortion!
19. Its true we all love money.Shas just
Eric... ,   Israel...   (10.21.08)
loves it more. They have a great record for the love of money .They love too put it in there pockets first,then maybe the poor.
20. YISHAI, YISHAI and more YISHAI, WHY??
chop-chop   (10.21.08)
--Who made Yishai in charge of Jerusalem ? --Who made Ovadia in charge of segregation? --Who made zealots in charge of women's skirts? --Who made Ultra orthodox expert on draft dodging? --Who made Dori,the unsavory outlaw run for office? --Who made a rabbi drug-in-a-suitcase expert? --NOT a regular Jew --NOT a secular Jew --NOT the 1000's who gave their lives to save Jerusalem. --Not the 1000's of young Jews working overseas in order to HELP. AND please, don't overburden Yishai's intelectual prowess with fancy words like: education, science, the arts, humanity......! --CASH,CASH,CASH are the magic words and always result in a broad grin.....!
21. Shas is the best party for its constituents
redmike ,   Tel Aviv   (10.21.08)
I didn't vote for Shas and won't but they are the only party that do something for their constituents and if I'd voted for them I'd be very pleased with their behavior. I voted for Israel Beitenu which at least quit the coalition. The other members of the coalition are worthless bums that only care about themselves. Shas has told Livni that it will not join the coalition unless she signs a paper or openly states that she will not negotiate Jerusalem and it knows she can't sign it. Shas are consummate politicians that can run rings around an amateur like Livni. This expressed hatred of Shas is simply looking for a scapegoat. Look at the other drek in the coalition that feather's its own nest and does nothing for its constituents. Mike
22. The balanced opinion
simple guy   (10.21.08)
1. Not totally agree regarding Jerusalem division, Ben Gurion etc. 2. Totally agree regarding Shas & Co, haredim etc. Sorry for the plain words.
23. well said Yoram!
Daniel ,   USA/ Israel   (10.21.08)
We need more like you who are willing to combat the theocratic elements that exist within Israel's society who are pushing to destroy Israel's democratic nature.
24. Shas is part of Govt.violating the word of the LORD!
sam ,   USA   (10.21.08)
25. the SHAS saga
chop-chop   (10.21.08)
To Mike in TA #21 It's NOT hatred,the facts speak for themselves.What has Shas done (or doing) for Israel? For it's safety, nothing,except opening seminars "how to evade the IDF. For the citizen's well beings?nothing except shut down their (and our)streets, neighborhoods,malls, the country to it's people WHO WORK very hard for a decent life and wish to enjoy a free week end . Integration? They reject children for not following their dress code,for being a little "different" Darker; and cast aside women "a la arab style" in their daily life,and use them as "baby machines" so we ,the secular Jews must pay for it (it would be cheaper to subsidise condoms for life) Featherbedding is a very old haredi custom; paying men in black to do nothing -- to decide what we should eat,who should get married, divorced,how to dress and many more chores that THEY can only perform. So much for the separation of church & state.
26. Yishai is a pig.
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (10.22.08)
27. Sagi, Israel #9: Harlot
Steve ,   US   (10.22.08)
I am a conservative Republican who voted for George W. Bush in 2000; sadly. Mr.. Bush is a sitting president of the United States of America. His policies visa vis Israel are criminal in my view. Thus, I regularly call Mr. Bush a traitor. If the name fits, wear it. Foreign minister Livni's behavior is reprehensible. She has sold out our people for what? For fame? For graft? For what? Yes or no Sagi? Livni is selling out our people and our land.
28. POVERTICIANS
Alan Steiner ,   Brooklyn, New Tork   (10.22.08)
The Shas machine is a financial source for its cult members and non-productive members. They have large families that are a drain on Israel's economic and medical systems, refuse to serve in the IDF or perform national service, and expect to be cared for as welfare clients. Shas is nothing more than slick blackmailers. To pay their ransom would be shameful for any Israeli party.
29. Jerusalem should not be divided.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (10.22.08)
Jacques Gauthier, a non-Jewish Canadian lawyer who spent 20 years researching the legal status of Jerusalem has written a doctoral dissertation on the topic of Jerusalem and its legal history, based on international treaties and resolutions of the past 90 years. Gauthier’s main point, as summarized by Israpundit editor Ted Belman, is that a non-broken series of treaties and resolutions, as laid out by the San Remo Resolution, the League of Nations and the United Nations, gives the Jewish People title to the city of Jerusalem. The process began at San Remo, Italy, when the four Principal Allied Powers of World War I – Great Britain, France, Italy and Japan – agreed to create a Jewish national home in what is now the Land of Israel. The residents of Jerusalem should be free to express by means of a referendum their wishes as to possible modifications of regime of the City. Given Jerusalem’s strong Jewish majority, Gauthier concludes, Israel should be demanding that the long-delayed city referendum on the city’s future be held as soon as possible as explained at : http://xrl.us/bi7qx
30. #14
Michael ,   Haifa   (10.22.08)
If you associate Kaniuk with Goebbels, would you object if I associate you with Julius Streicher ? Be careful with your analogies, Ilan from Ariel
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