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Rightists say all IDF soldiers 'should become Gilad Shalit'
Efrat Weiss
Published: 26.10.08, 12:58
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31. Seconding a 3-State solution
Yael ,   Tel Aviv   (10.26.08)
So long as you add in the Haredi nutwings who throw stones at cars, bleach at women, and try to segregate buses and streets, to the State with the right wing fanatics. The Fanatic State, the Palestinian State, and the Jewish State of Israel.
32. THEY ARE IN AGONY UNDERSTAND THEM
Joel ,   Jerusalem   (10.26.08)
How long can a suffering people continue to suffer as they have and do daily without showing any signs of “nothing to lose” ? If the power and money mongers of Israel continue to crap on its citizens, a major revolt will happen as it has in all other nations in history over the years. It is not smart to beat the yelping dog at 03:00, one must see why it’s yelping or soon all will yelp and not just at 03:00.
33. what Ynet didnt print
Yisraeli   (10.26.08)
Jews who saw the "wanton and cruel destruction" in Kiryat Arba this past midnight cursed perpetrators, while media and government attack the victims. The events of the night in Kiryat Arba, in brief: Special Yassam anti-riot forces arrive at 1:30 AM to destroy family home in unauthorized Kiryat Arba outpost - breaking windows over sleeping children, punching mother and children, destroying property, throwing books, yelling, and separating baby from mother in the process. Hysterical eyewitnesses are recorded cursing perpetrators of destruction. Radio and internet sites headline reports with news of the eyewitnesses' "incitement." Government convenes, condemns Kiryat Arba residents; Prime Minister Olmert says, "We are sick of this verbal incitement which leads to violence. I expect to hear from the Defense Minister and Justice Minister what is to be done against these people." Elisheva Federman, who experienced the brunt of the police violence in her home this past night, told Arutz-7's Shimon Cohen what happened: "As on every Saturday night, we go to sleep late. At 1:25 AM, I received a call from friends who said that they heard that security forces are on their way over to us, and they fear that they intend to destroy our farm. It was strange; there had been no prior warning, so we hesitated to call friends for help. While we were deciding, we hear dogs outside. I look outside and I see a 'black river' [of Yassam forces] streaming towards our house." "Noam [Elisheva's husband] went out to see what was happening, and within seconds he was arrested." "I immediately locked the door. The children were sleeping in their beds. I thought that maybe they were just coming to destroy the caravan [mobile home without wheels] behind our house; I didn't think they were on their way to our house itself. A year ago, they also came to destroy and they told me that they had a warrant to destroy the caravan and not the house, so I thought it would be the same this time. But within seconds, or maybe a minute, they broke all the windows [on our house] - even in the children's rooms, with the children sleeping in bed. "The house was filled with screaming and yelling. The children began to get hysterical, and ran to my room. I asked the Yassamnikim to let me talk to them and calm them down. They didn't let me, and just yelled, 'Get out, get out, get out!'" cont.
34. what Ynet didnt print 2
Yisraeli   (10.26.08)
At that point, Elisheva asked her 12-year-old son to take his two little brothers, aged 6 and 8, who were very scared, to the closest houses in nearby Kiryat Arba, and to ask the neighbors to have the children's grandmother come and help with the little children. Elisheva wished to leave, but the children insist on remaining, so she decides to remain with them and with her months-old baby. Elisheva and the children stay in an inner room, leaving the door open just enough for them to watch their house being turned into a pile of ruins. "I saw the Yassamnikim breaking cabinets, throwing stuff around, breaking beds, throwing books and clothing and everything else onto the floor. After they finished their destruction, the only thing left was the room we were in. They forcefully took us out, while hitting us and using extreme violence. I heard them giving each other coded instructions, and suddenly I found myself with my hands twisted behind me, and within seconds, my head was turned backward. They hit me and the children systematically. I am now totally bruised up, but nothing in my body was broken - and the same with the children. I am not sure if my daughter's hand was not broken." "I asked them what they were doing. After a few minutes of not answering, they finally took out a piece of paper and waved it at me and said that it was an order saying they had to evict us. Then they said we are under arrest. They separated me from my baby, and put me and my older daughter into one of their vehicles, and the other children in two other cars. I was worried about my baby when they separated her, and said I wanted to see her, but no one cared." The police car in which Elisheva was riding broke down, and after a 90-minute delay, they finally arrived at a nearby police station. "I had nothing with me - not baby formula, not diapers, not clothes." At 4 AM, she was released and taken back to what had been her home. "I looked through the ruins, and somehow found my car keys; they hadn't destroyed the car." She drove to her sister's home, and later in the morning returned to the ruins: "I tried to rummage through the destruction to find clothes and coats and other things for the children. 18 years of marriage are buried in the ruins..." The general media reported on the "evacuation of an illegal outpost in Kiryat Arba," omitting the details described above - but highlighted the angry words of two of the Jews who saw the destruction. A man was heard saying that he hopes the perpetrators of the destruction fall or are captured in battle.
35. Provocator!
sam ,   USA   (10.26.08)
36. Caravan on wheels was not built on ground
sam ,   USA   (10.26.08)
If you cannot read donot write!
37. 1 state solution - 1 state for jews. 0 states for arabs
and lefties   (10.26.08)
38. #32 WHAT A CROCK OF CRAP YOU'VE WRITTEN!!
Secular ,   Israel   (10.26.08)
39. Re: # 30 That's precisely the issue
Ariel Ben yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah   (10.26.08)
B"H That's precisely the issue here "observer", over and above the humanitarian one presented by this family of newly created pogrom-victims: the Federmans. For Jewish Jews the whole Land of Israel is per definition "legal" as the law-book of reference for them is the Torah (and related writings and comments of course). For the seculars the law-book of reference is the civil code. In my view civil war now will erupt because I don't think the G-d of Israel can tolerate such open, aggressive and public desecration of His Name. At the same time we know that the seculars are unable to moderate their appetite for power (See Altalena episode), so the scene is set for a confrontation.
40. For a report which includes what happened after the police
Tracy W   (10.26.08)
arrived at the house, please visit the Israel National News website. To better understand the implications of this event, it is necessary to read about the point of view of the victims, and the subsequent chronology of this police action. Children were terrorized, property mercilessly destroyed. Citizens need to get the full picture.
41. I support our IDF 100%, and as for the FR...
Vicky ,   Asheklon Israel   (10.26.08)
A hex has the habit of transposing. So I should watch your backs if I were you. Let the IDF go in arrest them all, lock 'em up throw away the key. or send most of them back to the US where they originated from. Far Right is just as bad as the Far Left. both seem to want their own destruction.
42. To 40 , and your site is "objective" ????
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.26.08)
What they write , i will certainly not believe , nor what this Federman and family tells . Every criminal claim's he is'nt guilty .
43. Maccabees were hated by government and left wing also.
Tony ,   New York, NY   (10.26.08)
I made other comments but ynet will not print pro-right reports or comments.
44. This is bullcrap, give a source or don't report it.
shneerhere   (10.26.08)
More Ynet settler-bashing. Make up some remarks, attribute to 'unnamed settler', stir up sentiment against settler. Basic Journalism: attribute your sources. Otherwise, this is just entertaining fiction.
45. reply to #39 Ariel Ben Yochanan
Avi ,   telaviv   (10.26.08)
Please explain what is :Jewish jews" .
46. Coward police come at 1:30 in the morning to beat a wife
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (10.26.08)
and children. Even the corrupt police who came to Gush Katif came in daylight with reporters to show the state terrorism.
47. Can we have a fact to go with this?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (10.26.08)
First off a person shouted something like this from within a crowd. Everybody there said they had no idea who yelled it. How much do you want to bet that it was in fact an agent provocateur from GS?
48. The suspects are 6 and 8
Ethan ,   St. Paul, Minn   (10.26.08)
A 6 year old girl and an 8 year old girl as 'suspects' in harming 200 pound Yassam riot police? I don't think so....
49. Totalitarianism won't last
Julio ,   Acapulco   (10.26.08)
Only in a totalitarian regime could such secret police come in the middle of the night to terrorize a family with children. Did they arrest Haim Ramon in the middle of the night? No! But this of course was not a lawful arrest but a police brutality operation designed solely to terrorize Jews and drive them from the City of Hevron so that it will be Judenrein.
50. Is this Darfur?
Brod ,   USA   (10.27.08)
I saw the pictures and report on this tragedy in Israelinsider. My goodness, it looks like Darfur. This seems worst than what the Gestapos did to Jewish homes. Does Olmert think that ravaging the home of this Jewish family, displacing the people in the house, and destroying their personal possessions in the middle of the night justified? Where is the human decency on this? You hear of such carnages and atrocities committed by Islamist-Jihadist thugs in Sudan/Darfur and other Third World countries but certainly not in civilized countries with Western values and democracy. I am left to wonder whether the perpetrators of such carnage are really Jews who know the GOD of Israel and the Land of Israel, or AntiSemites who have Trojanhorsed Israel. Israel should be wary of enemies from within that are capable of hurting their own people.
51. Hebron
Bonnie ,   Jaffa. Israel   (10.27.08)
What a tragedy! Some of the people of Israel have descended to the level of their enemies and to vicious rhetoric of Israel's Islamist enemies. What is the world coming to!
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