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Hebron Jews: Tape proves disputed house was sold
Efrat Weiss
Published: 30.10.08, 18:19
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1. Bring the Palestinian to court.
AniAshkeloni ,   Ashkelon   (10.30.08)
Put him under oath. He should tell the High Court himself and settle this issue. If he still lies, put him in prison for a long, long time. Looks like he just tried to steal a ton of shekels from honest Jewish buyers. He should be in prison for fraud anyway.
2. "pressure"
tom ,   toronto, canada   (10.30.08)
it is a capital crime, punishable by death, to sell property to a jew both in jordan and in the palestinian anarchy, so it's pretty obvious why he cannot admit to having sold the house. so why aren't all the human rights groups jumping all over this obvious violation of the right of jews to own a house and to live in it peacefully? or are jews' rights less important than arabs'?
3. audio tape?? hahaha
Salameh ,   Gaza, Palestine   (10.30.08)
I have audio tapes of Moses admitting this Land is for the Palestinians and you don't own an atom of sand in our dunes hahahaha get real!
4. Does Talula Have Nothing To Say?
Larry ,   Zefat Israel   (10.30.08)
I can feel the heat of her rage from miles away.She hisses and steam comes out of her ears whenever the key words"Hebron" or "Settlers" are mentioned.If she were only wiser she would know these places were jewish many many centuries before the Arabs had any claim and long before Tel-aviv ,Carmiel Netanya and the rest existed.
5. This Has Been Going on for a Hundred Years
Bill ,   US   (10.30.08)
Jews buy Arab property and Arabs later claim it was stolen.
6. Translation
Raphael ,   Netanya   (10.30.08)
In Arabic "I sold this house to a jewish freier at a 8,000% profit rate" Translated into English:"The Jews stole my house with their filthy money".
7. Salameh
Uri ,   Israel   (10.30.08)
You read the news and then respond with a nonsensical joke. Do you really expect to convince anyone which such an approach?
8. #3 Salameh: I have a tape, too.
AniAshkeloni ,   Ashkelon   (10.30.08)
I have a tape of Arafat saying "There are no such people as Palestinians. I made them up so I could extort hundreds of millions of dollars from the rest of the world with my terrorism. Palestinians? Bah!! Humbug!!" Yassar said it. For real. It's true. Wanna hear my tape?
9. don't worry palis..sternhell will find an excuse
Arie ,   BaGolan   (10.30.08)
10. Buy all the houses, Arabs have 22 states to choose from
(10.30.08)
11. It's obviously fake
Ron Morris   (10.30.08)
The Israeli court system is not a bunch of idiots, They would not let the case drag on or even appear in court at all unless the Arab owner really does have a claim and the settlers are lying. It is a known fact that every time a settler builds in the territories, it is on land solen from arabs. The fact that the israeli courts even listen to the settlers is a sign of how enlightened our court system is.
12. 11
(10.30.08)
but in this case it is true and was admitted as honest evidence against the claims made by the arab plaintiff. the tape was heard and admitted as evidence in court. the sound of voice analyzed pointed to the same voice this arab plaintiff posesses. through our voice analysis and various property transactions the court managed to conclude that, indeed, the property was sold by this man, bought by the jewish defendants for an inflated price which each one of the defendants contributed to. this arab then turned around and in ways that are illegal and devious asked for the sold property back without having any motive except to extort money from so called defendants. i am a law clerk in this court and have read all the evidence. the jewish men and women bought this home legally and have the documentation to prove it. we also have the tape's voice analysis which points directly to the plaintiff's lie and motive of extortion. to all those that conspire to twist the actual court evidence, all i have to say is that i was there, not you, and i know exactly what transpired in that court of law. i believe the court will soon rule for the defendants simply because they have all the evidence and are telling the truth.
13. #11 - You filthy liar.....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (10.31.08)
"It is a known fact that every time a settler builds in the territories, it is on land solen from arabs." What a load of horse shit.
14. Thanks YNet...
Ezra ,   canada   (10.31.08)
... for this refreshing article about Jews in Hebron not calling them settlers, extremists or fanatics. From time to time, it is still possible to find some journalism rather than militantism in your columns.
15. #12: You can't be telling the truth
Ron Morris   (10.31.08)
If the case was so clear, then why would the court let it go so long? Why would they even try the case if it was so clear? There is no way a court would support an arab who has absolutely no claim to the property. Israeli courts aren't that mickey mouse. It must be that the settlers really did just "squat". They do that all over the territories. Didn't they already do that before in Hebron in that shuk? They just took over thois stores and the army had to kickj them out.
16. Due process for settlers?
Ilan ,   Ariel   (10.31.08)
Normally the procedure is not even to pretend to act according the the normal judicial process that Israelis citizens are entitled to. Maybe there is still a bit of hope left that Israel isn't going to turn into a police state.
17. #15
(10.31.08)
ron, as much as i would hate to disappoint you, i am indeed telling you the truth. there is nothing that crosses my desk that i have not seen or heard, read or analyzed. i am very familiar with the case in point and would like to suggest that if you do not have a clue as to what transpired in court during this trial. your disdain for settlers is an entirely different issue and emotions, both negative or positive, play no role in a court of law where the trial focuses primarily on concrete evidence rather than favoritism or emotions towards the plaintiff or defendant. the israeli justice system is by no means a mickey mouse affair and more often than not, tends to be liberal left and side with arabs' complaints. not so in this case since all of the evidence in our possession point only to one conclusion; after examining for a year the evidence given to us by both plaintiff and defendants, the court has studied the case for 13 month and has arrived at the conclusion that the so called settlers do indeed possess the verified deed to the house and a tape recorded discussion between the arab former owner where he plainly states his motive for his actions in this case. the voice was analyzed with high frequency voice technology and has concluded that it is a perfect match with the one possessed by the arab resident. so, the case was not clear in the beginning of our investigation, but became clearer once all evidence was put in front of the judge....in this case, believe me, a very left leaning, pro palestinian judicial seat. the court didn't "let it go so long" as you state. the court simply did its job and investigation into the matter took a fairly long time. since it is not the only case facing this court, it does take time for the docket to come to trial. additionally, the case was not "so clear" as you stated. it was far from clear. it was in fact complicated because it was one man's word against another. in such cases, we have to find the evidence and verify all claims before judgement. have you any idea how many cases per year a court deals with? one single case is not held as more "special" or "important" as to discard all others and concentrate solely on this case. hence, the delay. the court had no reason at first to "support" or not to "support" this arab man's claim. what the court is supposed to do instead of support or not is to first investigate, not support. a court can't support a claim without investigation into the matter no matter if the person is jewish or arab. the court wanted to indeed find if this arab had a claim or not. so, in a way, it gave the arab man the benefit of a doubt and did indeed take his complaint seriously enough to investigate what he was complaining about. it was done in a just and fait legal manner that made sure the truth surfaced after all. you say that "it must be that the settlers really did "squat"...and how would you know that? have you been there to really see the going ons of the matter? how would you know which person did what? an individual such as yourself has no say in this matter because you do not possess the knowledge of evidence and rely on your own assumptions and biases against the "squaters" as you say. bias is not evidence! yes, some settlers do indeed tresspass and claim a land that is not theirs. but this particular case proved that this was not the case with the defendants. what i gather from your comment is that it is more about your personal distaste with settlers in general and not so much with the case in point.
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